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2020/06/09 12:18:45 (permalink)
Hi

Someone can sell me te kit for 80e but I wanted to Know.

Can I put different fan on the rad like ll120?

Might there be any issues fitting the rad? I have a h500m case

I read that the pump can be very loud, is that true?
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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/09 13:24:27 (permalink)
    Yes you can change the fans ... just remember the tanks on top & bottom of radiator make it bigger than the 120mm fan - on those two sides
     
    Sound quality is Very subjective .... where you place the PC & if you allow the air to rise into the radiator during assembly can impact the sound
     
    The suction hose - Should be at the bottom of the radiator --- keeping air out of the pump is both better at cooling & quieter
     
    You want to mount the radiator where in your case ?

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/09 23:59:11 (permalink)
    I was thinking about mouting it on read exhaust.

    But being VERY sensitive to noise, my rig is pretty silent on idle, i was afraid that the pump noise will be an issue..

    also on the rad, push pull is really worth it? could i use 2xLL120? Where the fans are supposed to be plugued?


    Also, since i will receive soon a custom backplate (it's just supposed to be put above), does the backplate from the kit is the same as the one of the card?
    Also, does the RGB header remain available?
    Thanks !
    post edited by Asryan - 2020/06/10 00:48:54

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 03:31:10 (permalink)
    If pump would be an issue, you could connect it to your motherboard and control via DC. Thats not a hard mod, you just need cable from mini4pin (gpu fan header) to motherboard fan header.

     
    I want my pc run silent too and I used hybrid kit for year, right now I switched to custom watercooling - that is quieter, but expensive of course.
     
    Push-pull is always better than just push. Both fans can be connected to rad fan header with splitter (1A max) or to motherboard.
    All headers have "windows" in shroud, so both fan and rgb header are available.
     
    LL120 is not good for radiators: low static pressure. It is better to get something like ML120 or noctua F12.
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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 03:32:41 (permalink)
    Ok great ! Could I plug the fans to my Corsair commander too?

    For the pump which one is it exactly?

    Also, for the backplate, is there another one with the kit or will I use the same I have?

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 03:42:27 (permalink)
    Yep, if commander uses standart fan headers.
    For pump - one side should be female 4pin gpu type and other side is male standart fan, like this one:

     
    Other variant - 4pin gpu male to fan header - is not something you are looking for:

    This could be used to connect some fan TO gpu, but not some gpu fan to motherboard.
     
    As for backplates - I have no idea, I bought hybrid card, not hybrid kit :) But you can try to compare photos of ftw3 aircooled and hybrid on evga site, I guess it will be same.

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 03:45:00 (permalink)
    Ok great ! Is this one the right cable? 

    https://www.ebay.fr/itm/C...er-Cable-/113796208645
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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 03:54:35 (permalink)
    Yes, it is.

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 03:55:02 (permalink)
    ok have to find it on a french website now :( I don't want to pay 20€ shippment for 7€ item ><
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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 04:11:48 (permalink)
    Got it, this one delivers to france it seems

    https://www.moddiy.com/pr...an-Connector-Male.html

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 09:10:32 (permalink)
    Oh i do have some last questions.

    Even without push pull (i'll see later), the temps will be way better than stock? My main issues are the MEM 2 and MEM 3 going above 80c, with the kit will those be way lower?
    Also, can I plug this cable to any fan header ?

    The hybrid kit need to be plugued to a 12v RGB header right? Could i plug my rgb backplate on it after ?

    I found the cable on amazon and it should be dispatched in an ok delay : https://www.amazon.com/gp...Q8OIL3FGVKZE&psc=1

    Thanks
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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 09:43:04 (permalink)
    You'll be fine with two LL120s.  Not the best rad fans per say but doable, especially in push and pull and you're still able to use your commander to monitor and control.
     
    Yes, with the Hybrid kit you will see thermal improvements.  Now I don't know about audibles as it could be a bit louder for your liking while it doesn't bother others.

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 09:46:28 (permalink)
    Well if I use the cable to control the pump speed I guess it will be fine?

    I have LL on my corsair aio and it's OK

    And with only one LL would it still be OK? Maybe I'll get another later but these are quite expensive fans :)

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 10:56:33 (permalink)
    In terms of doing job better than air cooler LL are definitely OK, they just don't their job as good as high static pressure fans.
    As for mem temps - actually 80C is normal temp for that plus I am not sure that this is mem temp, not courner of gpu or something like that: because mem1, mem2 and mem3 different even under fullcover waterblock:

    So mem2 and mem3 are a bit higher than gpu temp (look at that 20C delta betwen mem1 and mem3!). Aircooled versions can get up to 84C gpu with silent fans and ~65-70C range full fans), while hybrid can cool it down to ~70C (~1200rpm F12 push-pull) or down to 55-60C range @full rpm (~same noise as aircooled version).
    Hybrid can run both quiter and a bit cooler than aircooled version plus it exhausting all the heat. Push-pull configuration and good fans will either give you better performance or lower rpm at the same performance level, which means less noise. But another thing you can't just say that LL 120 @1500rpm will be louder than noctua F12 @1200 rpm: high pressure fans a generally louder on same rpm, like low pressure fan @2000 rpm could be, well, not silent - but acceptable, while 2000 rpm at noctua F12 sounds like P-51D and it is ready for takeoff :)
    Main fan's noise source is air that coming through it, plus a bit of motor sound. So if both fans moving same amount of air through radiator, but F12 can do it at 1200 rpm while LL120 with it low pressure needs all of that 1500 rpm - that will mean its noise level are quite same. The only problem here is that LL120 can't do it any better, while F12 can speed up to 1500 RPM (and be louder, but cooler) or even 2000 RPM (industrial version, MUCH louder), or even 3000 rpm (I can't imagine what ear defence I need for that :) ).
    But you can always say that 1500RPM LL120 will be louder than pair of LL120 in push-pull configuration doing the same job on @1200 rpm. Or that two LL120 @1500 rpm will get job done better than single one on the same level of noise (or same motor pitch noise, sort of, 2 fans will be louder in terms of air movement). That is what push-pull about.
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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 11:05:49 (permalink)
    I see so I really should go for push pull configuration then? I was afraid it would be too bulky

    Also do the thermal pads needs to be removed /replaced during installation of the kit?

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 11:13:07 (permalink)
    You can try it first and if one LL120 is not enough for you - yep, push-pull or better single fan or even 2 better fans in push-pull,depending how low you want to cool it down.
    It is good idea to replace thermal pads, but not so important and you can reuse old one.
     
    But it is better to check hybrid kit installation manual, I can't rememmber if aircooled and hybrid has same thermal pads thickness. This is critical for fullcover blocks, but I think not so critical for hybrid kit (because vrm rads are separated from gpu and mem heat exchanger so wrong thicknes can't mess gpu contact, but mem pads sure can.

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 11:17:39 (permalink)
    Oh OK thanks but for the installation of the kit thermal pads replacement is not mandatory required then?

    I'll try with one LL and I'll see later then. I have those fans in my case for my aio and they do a good job and looks nice :)

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 14:35:09 (permalink)
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    Oh OK thanks but for the installation of the kit thermal pads replacement is not mandatory required then?

    I'll try with one LL and I'll see later then. I have those fans in my case for my aio and they do a good job and looks nice :)



    No need to change them to simplify things.
     
    As for one fan running on the AIO rad, that's fine too.  Just run that at max and slowly lessen it to the temps and audibles to your liking.  If you get another fan down the road, you could lessen them even further.

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/10 23:04:43 (permalink)
    With even 1xLL120 which are not the best static pressure one I should see a big improvement?

    I have 3 of those on my corsair h150i and they do the job.

    Also, about RGB:

    The Hybrid kit need to be plug to a rgb on the Motherboard right?
    But could I after plug my rgb backplate onto the rgb header of the GPU?

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 00:49:43 (permalink)
    no, it uses proprietary connector and plugged in to a gpu only.
    led connector looks like this:

     
    So you actually can't do anything but connect it to the gpu: you can't use standart rgb or d-rgb headers because of short wire (connector located on plate right under led on shroud) and custom connector.

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 01:12:01 (permalink)
    Oh then i will be forced to plug my backplate on the motherboard right

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 01:43:20 (permalink)
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    Oh then i will be forced to plug my backplate on the motherboard right




    Yes, that would be wise.  I'm sure the instructions for that custom backplate would instruct you to do so.  Just make sure you aren't mix matching 5v with 12v or vise versa.

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 01:56:02 (permalink)
    No.
    Or you can't actually do it.
     
    I mean that shroud uses special rgb header, not standart RGB/D-RGB. And what is your backplate uses? This special header or standart header on the back side of gpu? If standart - then there is no problem at all. If this special - how can you plug it into your motherboard?
     
    https://www.evga.com/support/manuals/files/400-HY-1484-B1.pdf - check manual here:

     

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 01:59:46 (permalink)
    The custom backplate is 12v, i just plugued it on the GPU. I'm still not sure 100% to go for the hybrid kit..
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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 02:55:36 (permalink)
    So your backplate and gpu shroud uses different rgd headers and there is no problem to connecting them both: actually right now this special header is used to power up your air cooler rgb.
    As for question "do I need hybrid kit" - if you like your gpu right now, if you see no issues with noise and performance and worried only about mem2 temps higher than 80C (mem can go up to 95C) - no, you don't need hybrid.
     
    But if you can get kit for a cheap price you can just try it and see if it worth it in terms of noise and temperatures. Or if you want your system be much quiter than righ now - in that case you should think about custom waterloop instead of aio sollutions.

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 02:58:44 (permalink)
    Does the GPu temps can impact a lot CPU temps or RAm temps?

    I'd like to have a quieter and cooler system but I don't feel like going to custom one , I don't have skills or patience for that.

    For the hybrid kit someone was asking if I wanted it for 80€ but i'll have to buy an extra fan too or maybe the one provided with the kit is good enough to test it?

    My issue is also quite esthetic, the tubings of the hybrid looks messy ><

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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 04:09:35 (permalink)
    In case of hybrid or aio sollution fact that all heat from gpu exhausted outside the case makes impact on cpu and ram temps. Not the fact that it is aio or water and gpu is cooler. But most impact is made by intake airflow.
    And you actually don't need your ram be cool, it can stand up to 85C. As for noise - air cooled gpu in general is louder than aio. But this particular hybrid pump is awfull I think :) It is okay for load (masked with fans), but hell anoying at idle. If you have oportunity to check aio before buying - that would be great, you just need something to give it 12v and listen is it loud or not. I had loud pump, most complains about hybrid is loud pump, but some still says that they had quiet pump, so you could be lucky too. Controlling pump with voltage can do the trick, but it still better to check it out before.
     
    I had a system with ROG strix and had switched to evga hybrid. In terms of temperatures and noise - gpu temperature dropped from 86C to ~70C and noise dropped a bit from ~3x 90mm 1500 rpm to 2x 120mm 1200 rpm. In terms of ram temps it was fine with aircooled version because of 3x140mm intake, but before that I had 360mm aio mounted as intake, that was restricting it and ram was hot to touch. So I moved cpu aio on top. The only thing is changed after hybrid installation is pch and nvme temp - dropped a bit because gpu was right near it. So with good intake air cooled card can't warm your case and it is warming up components right near it - like pch. Or if you have bad intake - your ram will be hot even at idle, because of bad intake and little air moving around ram, not because "your gpu warming up your case".

    After a year or so I switched to custom watercooling and I can mention that it is my first experience with that and I can't say it require a lot of skill, it requier a lot of money though.

     
    And in terms of noise this build is much better than aio: I can run some games with my gpu under 50C at fans at ~1100 rpm (water temp is 42C) or under 60C and fans at ~ 800 rpm (water temp is 52C). BUT. That build is hot in terms of case internals. I am dumping ALL the heat (~500w) inside case plus I am restricting airflow with rads. I also tried to switch top rad from exhaust to intake, that did a little improvement in terms of water temps, but next to zero improvement in terms of case temps. So right now my system can run a bit quieter and a bit colder in terms of gpu and cpu temps than aio sollution, but hotter in terms of case temperatures. Or it can run very quiet, like really silent - but very HOT in terms of case temperatures: under silent profile my RAM going up to 60C, HDDs up to 47C, ssds are fine (~36C), nvme is a bit hot (~60C). Before that I doubt I had >45C on my ram (I never checked that, but that was not even warm to touch) and my HDD were at 36C. BUT. 800 rpm. In games. Like rdr2 with dumping about 550w of heat. Both overclocked gpu (~2100) and cpu (5.2). Silent. Yep, my case side panel is about 35C and its warm to touch it, but! 800 rpm! :)
     
    And that is not because watercooling harming internal components - but because I wanted to fit system in this particular case and I had no options but to mount rad as intake: there is no many places I can place any rads, only front and top, no bottom mount point, no side mount points.

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    Asryan
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    Re: EVGA 2080 ti ftw3 hybrid kit 2020/06/11 04:14:36 (permalink)
    The custom looks so cool indeed !

    Well i will think think about it and ask for a video for checking the noise. But those tubings on the hybrid looks awful too... I just got thise nice GPU backplate which would become invisible with the hybrid kit lol

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