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2018/10/20 09:03:51 (permalink)
Hello
 
The EVGA backplate is not compatible with waterblocks. The screws used for the backplate are M2 and the waterblocks use M2.5 screws
Besides using a backplate EKWB example, no solution to keep the EVGA backplate ?

1st time I have this problem with EVGA graphics cards and waterblocks  
 
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post edited by tistou77 - 2018/10/23 12:27:36

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 09:06:30 (permalink)
The Backplates are compatible with the EVGA Hydro Copper Waterblock for EVGA/NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 XC/XC2/FE, 400-HC-1189-B1, RGB
EKWB wants you to buy Their Backplates.
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 09:21:05 (permalink)
Or EVGA now put M2 screws for us to use their waterblocks
 
I had already seen but I do not like the design,
the cable (RGB?) is not "standard". this connector will correspond to a connector on my motherboard but it is for several things (temperature, etc ...) I think
post edited by tistou77 - 2018/10/20 09:43:30

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 09:39:40 (permalink)
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EKWB wants you to buy Their Backplates.




Yes, for a ridiculous $40.  smh   

Tbh, the pricing of the EVGA and EK block/backplate aren't much off in price.  Maybe $20 difference.  Whatever happened to $120-$130 Full WBs? lol  You would have thought by now they'd be $100 or cheaper. 

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 09:42:21 (permalink)
$40 Bucks Now!, how sad.

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 09:45:03 (permalink)
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I had already seen but I do not like the design, the cable (RGB?) is not "standard". this connector will correspond to a connector on my motherboard but it is for several things (temperature, etc ...) I think

But the (RGB Cable) is "standard" for EVGA.
 The Nicest Looking Hydro Copper ever Provided from EVGA.

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 09:47:09 (permalink)
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I had already seen but I do not like the design, the cable (RGB?) is not "standard". this connector will correspond to a connector on my motherboard but it is for several things (temperature, etc ...) I think

But the (RGB Cable) is "standard" for EVGA.


Ok, the cable plugs into the graphics card
Anyway, the hydro cooler is not referenced on EVGA EU

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 09:50:09 (permalink)
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I had already seen but I do not like the design, the cable (RGB?) is not "standard". this connector will correspond to a connector on my motherboard but it is for several things (temperature, etc ...) I think

But the (RGB Cable) is "standard" for EVGA.


Ok, the cable plugs into the graphics card
Anyway, the hydro cooler is not referenced on EVGA EU


Not Yet. EU needs to have some patience
It would help to put in your Location:
You can do this under  User Control Panel
 
BTW your English is better than mine.
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 09:52:20 (permalink)
Thanks, added
There is a review for this block ?
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 10:19:56 (permalink)
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Thanks, added
There is a review for this block ?


Not that I ever found before ordering my EK blocks for my EVGA 2080 Ti

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 10:22:43 (permalink)
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Not that I ever found before ordering my EK blocks for my EVGA 2080 Ti

 
I think I ordered a backplate ekwb, too bad I liked the design of the EVGA, but I do not like that of the hydro
 

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 10:42:11 (permalink)
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There is a review for this block ?

I might do one for here on the Forum, Might.
Cool GTX can cover the EK and I can cover the Hydro Copper.
We Even have the Same Cards and Even the Same Motherboard & CPU Intel i7-5930K
EK Code Name:  RTX project Verses Hydro Copper X99FTW-K-RTX 
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 10:56:59 (permalink)
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Hydro Copper X99FTW-K-RTX 



On this image
 

 
Its' backplate ekwb ? black or nickel ?
Nickel I believe
 
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 11:03:59 (permalink)
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Hydro Copper X99FTW-K-RTX 

On this image

 Its' backplate ekwb ? black or nickel ?
Nickel I believe
Thanks

That are the older GTX 1080 Ti FE Graphics Cards with EK Water Block and Backplate. All Nickel
They are now on this Rig The Crunchinator (Completed)

 EK Only because EVGA had not yet released the Hydro Copper Water Blocks.
 

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 11:58:55 (permalink)
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I had already seen but I do not like the design, the cable (RGB?) is not "standard". this connector will correspond to a connector on my motherboard but it is for several things (temperature, etc ...) I think

But the (RGB Cable) is "standard" for EVGA.
 The Nicest Looking Hydro Copper ever Provided from EVGA.



Assuming that's your block, how does it match up with the FE backplate? Assuming you have a FE card of course. 
I like how the EVGA blocks use the cards illumination control as opposed to a RGB 4-pin as with the EK cards. But, with the issues with X1 and RGB, there are pros to the 4-pin solution. 
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 12:21:34 (permalink)
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Assuming that's your block, how does it match up with the FE backplate? Assuming you have a FE card of course. 
I like how the EVGA blocks use the cards illumination control as opposed to a RGB 4-pin as with the EK cards. But, with the issues with X1 and RGB, there are pros to the 4-pin solution. 

bp7178 You are in Left Field Here as well as Assuming that this Thread has anything to due with the FE Card or with X1.
This Thread is about the Backplate on EVGA's RTX 2080 Graphics Card and the compatibility with the EKWB Water Block as an example.
 
The EVGA Hydro Copper Waterblock for EVGA/NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 XC/XC2/FE, 400-HC-1189-B1, RGB is compatible with the NVIDIA RTX 2080 FE Graphics Card.
What is not compatible is using the EVGA Backplate with the EKWB Water Block as an example.
 



You would need to ask EVGA if the Backplate from NVIDIA's RTX 2080/Ti FE Graphics Cards can be use with the EVGA HC Water Blocks.  Contact Customer Service  or  Email Customer Service
I don't own or plan on owning any FE Based RTX Graphics Cards.
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 12:37:29 (permalink)
Don't be such a knob. I was asking you a question about the picture you posted. 
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 12:38:57 (permalink)
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Don't be such a knob. I was asking you a question about the picture you posted. 


Then Remove "Assuming" and just ask your questions.
"Assuming that's your block" is Testing My Integrity is how I see this, but then I am Old School.
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 13:35:27 (permalink)
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Don't be such a knob. I was asking you a question about the picture you posted. 



Bcavnaugh is one of the most trusted user on this forum. Just look at his forum post count, he has almost 30k trying to help people like you over the years.
 
Plus if you click on the "Mods Rigs" link below his profile picture, you can see that the pictures he gave you come from his own personnal computer.
 
So instead of calling him names, you should thank him for spending a little of his own free time to try to help you with valuable information... For free.
 
Back on the topic, according to my researches the original backplate sold with the EVGA 2080 card series air cooler are compatible with the hydro copper waterblock designed for these specific cards.
 
That's why you can't find any backplate in the store: you don't need to buy one as the one you already own can be applied with the hydro copper waterblock. But as OP said, it seems not compatible with EK waterblocks thought.
 
To sum up: if you plan to watercool an EVGA 2080 series card, you'd better buy the related hydro copper designed by EVGA instead of any other waterblock to avoid backplate problem compatibility.
 
Of course if you are planning on buying and watercooling an EVGA 2080 series card, as bcavnaugh suggested, it would be wise to ask confirmation to EVGA customer support before and if possible keep us up to date here ;)
 
On a personnal note, i would add that even without talking about backplate, GPU compatibility with waterblock is often a problem so to watercool any EVGA card i would buy an hydro copper waterblock that is matching instead of another waterblock because it has been designed and tested by EVGA engineers to perfectly match them.
 
If you check on EK website compatiblity tab on their products, you can see than most of their waterblock have not been physically tested against PCBs. They usually physically check 1 model with their waterblocks then compare visually the PCB of new cards to the one they tested and if they look alike they mark the waterblock as compatible. But sometime even if the PCB look alike, it's not exactly the same and this creates problems getting a good contact between the GPU and the waterblock.
 
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 15:10:54 (permalink)
It was a very innocuous question I asked him that could have easily been answered w/o the attitude. He misinterpreted a simple questions as some type of personal attack. Why would I thank him for that? 
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 15:50:03 (permalink)
Even if he might have misunderstood your question in the first place, I don't feel like he answered you with attitude in any way. He gave you the answer you needed about it (as i did in my last post): if you plan on watercooling an RTX card, you'd better ask EVGA support to confirm you that the original backplate sold with the aircooler is compatible with their hydro copper waterblock, which i'm about 90% sure it is, but you should ask them anyway for the remaning 10% :)
 
Anyway I think there is no need to further discuss this communication issue between you and bcavnaugh, i'm sure you both mean well but somehow you didn't understand each others. We're all cool geeks guys here, no need to get nervous ;)
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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/20 17:15:01 (permalink)
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It was a very innocuous question I asked him that could have easily been answered w/o the attitude. He misinterpreted a simple questions as some type of personal attack. Why would I thank him for that? 




I completely understand and yes, he could have responded it in a more professional manner.

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/22 12:19:58 (permalink)
Aside from the compatibility questions I'll throw my two cents in here about people complaining about EK asking $40 for a backplate. Most people are spending $800-$1300+ on RTX cards, is $40 for a machine milled piece of quality aluminum a high price? No it is not. Especially when you compare it to what looks like the EVGA stamped backplate. I love EVGA don't get me wrong but I am not a huge fan of the backplates this time. Comparing both backplates side by side I have zero regrets paying $40 for the EK backplate. The finish, attention to detail and overall strength of it is well worth the money if you've already spent several hundred dollars on a RTX gpu. As with all things aesthetics though, to each their own. 

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/22 12:22:54 (permalink)
I will take a backplate ekwb, I hesitate between black and nickel

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/22 13:05:09 (permalink)
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I will take a backplate ekwb, I hesitate between black and nickel


I ended up going with the black backplate as most of the other components in my loop are nickel and thought it would be too much. Also the nickel finish has almost a mirror like look to it, would look really good in a case with good lighting though. 

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/22 13:52:28 (permalink)
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I ended up going with the black backplate as most of the other components in my loop are nickel and thought it would be too much. Also the nickel finish has almost a mirror like look to it, would look really good in a case with good lighting though. 

me, I only have the mod of my pump that is "chrome" and my case is with "good lighting" (LED strip)
 

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/22 20:43:14 (permalink)
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I ended up going with the black backplate as most of the other components in my loop are nickel and thought it would be too much. Also the nickel finish has almost a mirror like look to it, would look really good in a case with good lighting though. 

me, I only have the mod of my pump that is "chrome" and my case is with "good lighting" (LED strip)
 


The EK nickel backplate would probably look very good in your system then. There is a user on the forum in one of the RTX 2080 ti's build threads that has one and it looks great. Unfortunately I can't remember their user name though. 

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/23 00:21:41 (permalink)
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The EK nickel backplate would probably look very good in your system then. There is a user on the forum in one of the RTX 2080 ti's build threads that has one and it looks great. Unfortunately I can't remember their user name though. 




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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/23 01:04:25 (permalink)
Thanks
 
if I take the nickel, I will have to find screws of the same color, those included with the WB are black (and no screw included with the backplate)

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Re: Backplate EVGA 2080 and waterblock 2018/10/23 12:16:59 (permalink)
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if I take the nickel, I will have to find screws of the same color, those included with the WB are black (and no screw included with the backplate)

Take the stock screws that it comes with and go to an area hardware store if you have something along those lines in your country and look for some stainless steel  or chrome screws. Those would match it almost perfectly. If that's not an option you can probably find them on ebay as well. EK should list the size of the screws on the product page or in the information that comes with the backplate. 

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