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2011/04/19 07:08:05 (permalink)
So now that my computer has been built and I bought a desk so support two monitors I wanted to hook them up and use them as one big monitor for movies, internet surfing, videos, and during gaming have the option tuse either both as one or use one for gaming while leaving windows running on the second so that I may surf the net or what need be while gaming.
 
This is the first time I have set this up so I am a newbe at this, I am at work so I can't play around with it for another few hours so I am gathering tips while I wait. I have a 27" Samsung S27A550H (1920x1080p) and an older Westinghouse 24" L2410NM (1920x1200) and was wondering since they have different resolution's if that would be okay too set it up as one big monitor or should I go buy another Samsung of the same model?
 
The Samsung would use HDMI to mini-HDMI and the Westinghouse would use DVI to VGA (or something weird like that) because using HDMI on the Westinghouse washes out the color and nothing can be done about that, known issue with this monitor. My two video cards are EVGA 460GTX 1GB SC X2 in SLI and the rest of my computer is in my sig, any help would be great.
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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 10:11:01 (permalink)
    If the monitors are differing resolutions I believe that the resolution used will be the resolution of the primary display.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 10:23:00 (permalink)
    Hmm, thanks for the response. Would 1920x1080 work and look good on a 1920x1200 monitor?

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 10:38:12 (permalink)
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    Hmm, thanks for the response. Would 1920x1080 work and look good on a 1920x1200 monitor?

    No, it looks awful I tried it, the pixels get stretched and it definitely looks like it shouldn't be on the monitor

     
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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 10:52:25 (permalink)
    That's too bad, gotta go spend $400 bucks for another Samsung    :-( ehhh such is life I suppose.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 11:02:35 (permalink)
    If you are only planning to work on it using a dual monitor desktop it will be fine. If you are talking about gaming then yeah the guys above are correct. The 3D mode of the card will want both monitors at the same resolution so that it can span across.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 11:10:13 (permalink)
    I want the ability to game on it that way as well, ehhh why not bite the bullet. Last big buy for this system. It will be super sweet when it's all done. Since they both will be hooked up via HDMI to mini HDMI do I pulg one monitor into each video card?
    post edited by strife01013 - 2011/04/19 11:29:43

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 12:10:58 (permalink)
    No. Plug both monitors to the same card using 2 DVI or one DVI one HDMI.
    I am not sure it works when you plug one monitor to each card.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 12:14:59 (permalink)
    Those monitors don't do DVI, the only thing I have is a HDMI and a VGA :-(
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+27%22+LED+Monitor+-+Black/2099051.p?skuId=2099051&productCategoryId=pcmcat200900050014&id=1218309759233
    post edited by strife01013 - 2011/04/19 12:27:05

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 12:37:35 (permalink)
    Also, you can't really game on anything less than 3 screens, imagine playing an FPS with a big border down the middle, unless you mean game on 1 monitor while using the other monitor for other stuff.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 12:37:58 (permalink)
    Oh wow. The first time I see a monitor with no DVI for a long time. Kind of expensive too for a 1080p TN panel. That's not much less than what I paid for my 27" SPVA 1920x1200. I think there are Asus and Acers with the same panel selling for much less.
    This for example:
    http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-2019s-VX2739WM-27-Inch-1920x1080-Monitor/dp/B003GBRXKU/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
     
    If you are going the HDMI route, there are DVI to HDMI converters. The signals are basically the same so there is no signal conversion. Just a plug adapter.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 12:46:40 (permalink)
    @ yellow fever:
    I would like the ability to game on both screens at the same time or if I decide to go single monitor for gaming and another one for an open windows I would like that option too, same with movies. 
     
    @rafale:
    I figured if I buy another monitor it would be the same kind that I have now, i don't like to mismatch all that much, i am kinda anal about things looking nice and clean and I prefer to keep the same brand going....weird I know but I think in the end it would kind of drive me nuts.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/19 13:44:19 (permalink)
    Lol. I am the same although I do have a mismatch setup...

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/20 06:46:39 (permalink)
    Alright, so I went ahead and bought another Samsung monitor, hooked it up and all that jazz. I can extend my desktop with the HDMI hooked up to the second video card.
     
    Now connecting the screen for gaming is another story. I have only tried Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2 and I can't do full screen on both monitors. Not sure if that is due to the fact that Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2 doesn't support that or if I have things hooked up wrong. I will be installing more games and trying other things after work today, right now just researching. Any suggestions?
    EDIT:
    Accodring to this website I have to have both monitors plugged into the same video card which means the second hook up will have to be a VGA to DVI connection (which I have the cords for).
    http://www.slizone.com/page/slizone_faq.html#c26
    post edited by strife01013 - 2011/04/20 06:58:09

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/20 07:15:22 (permalink)
    Or try to get a DVI to HDMI connector to keep all of your signal digital. I think it is the only way you will get the surround to work. Or you will have to make both monitors analog by using a VGA to DVI for both.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/20 07:44:53 (permalink)
    Rafale
    Your right, I can use a HDMI to DVI, why didn't I think of that lol, I even have one of those cables.
    These are the games I am looking to play in SLI on two monitors (if it turns out I like how it looks and can stand the blank where the two screens don't connect.
     
    Dragon Age 1 &2
    Mass Effect 2
    Shogun 2
    Medival Total War 2
    Crysis 2
    for now.....

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/21 17:16:13 (permalink)
    So now that I have a dual monitor setup (2 monitors in one vga card), how do I enable dual monitor gaming??

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/21 17:41:48 (permalink)
    I think you need to setup surround with two monitors. Right click on your screen and get into the nVidia driver and get into the SLI segment. I am not at home right now so I can't guide you step by step but I think you can follow a surround setup tutorial.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/21 17:45:42 (permalink)
    Ya, I have been looking around the NVIDIA drivers settings and there is no options for "surround" if you could look when you get home for me that would be amazing! I have been looking all around my computers options and can't find a thing. Ultramon isn't helping me either.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/21 20:07:35 (permalink)
    This is how you do it with 3 screens I would guess it works the same with two.
    http://nvidia.custhelp.co...d_adp.php?p_faqid=2667

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/21 20:47:54 (permalink)
    Sadly I looked at that and I have no option for surround, and this is with the newest drivers.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/21 22:14:12 (permalink)
    Really? So you actually need three monitors to get surround? 

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/22 01:38:27 (permalink)
    I've always been under the impression that nvidia's option for multi-monitor usage in gaming was rather limited, sadly I believe 3-monitor surround is the only thing their cards will support.
    http://www.slizone.com/object/sli_multi_monitor.html#confoptions
     
    That section of the multi-monitor config will show you the limitations on dual-monitor setups, only Flight Sim X (which I haven't been able to get to work quite yet...), Supreme Commander (one monitor gets set to the mini-map, the other to the actual game), and world in conflict have dual-monitor modes.
    For actual "Surround" gaming, nvidia requires 3 screens...
     
    It's especially sad because I'm currently sitting with the funds for a third monitor but no room on my desk....
     

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/22 07:28:58 (permalink)
    I think I am just going to give up trying to do this, I have posted in several forums and no one has been able to slove this puzzle. I'll be fine with playing on one and using the other for multi-tasking. Since I will not be playing games on a dual monitors I am wondering if I should have each monitor hooked up to each video card, one for each and both would be HDMI, I would still be able to run games in SLI. It would just take some workload off of one card and even it out too two of them. Thoughts?

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/22 10:04:23 (permalink)
    I do believe that is possible without any major modification. I will however caution that in some games I have experienced significant performance differences depending on if the second monitor is still running or not. I don't know if it is sli turning itself off before the game loads, or merely bad drivers on the part of the individual games that experienced this issue (Dragon Age II was the most notable, and we all know how its driver support was...)
     
    Frankly it never bothered me that much, as with my 580 it was a difference from 85-90 fps down to 70fps, so I didn't really care and it was sometimes nice to have forums and monitoring software up in monitor two, however your mileage may vary of course.
     
    Also I can't comment on recent driver releases effect on this phenomenon, my best advice would be to test it yourself, load up a game with monitor 2 on (and make sure it remains on, some full screen games I've experienced sort of a random chance every time I alt-tab into the full screen as to whether or not the second screen is gonna stay, it'll flicker for a few seconds as the system is loading up the game, and then the second screen will either stay on or turn itself blank) and test the framerates, if they're acceptable then go ahead.
     
    Anyone know if this performance discrepancy could be linked to sli not properly enabling (or not being utilized fully) due to their being two monitors, or is that something that was specific to that game/my system?

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/22 10:43:41 (permalink)
    I know it works, I haven't had any issues but I haven't really played any games on it yet but plan to today, guess I'll just have to play around with it and see which one has better performance.

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    Re:Dual Monitor Setup (First Time) 2011/04/22 13:16:07 (permalink)
    Let me know if you could, if you experience any performance dips based on one or both monitors active, I'd be interested to see if that was an isolated occurrence with those drivers/games or even specific to my system, I don't have access to much time for gaming in the next few days or I'd run similar tests.

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