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So what's it going to take to get some "next-gen" performance from this card? New drivers? Or just a game that is designed to take advantage of it? I upgraded my 980ti to a 1080ti and while everything runs silky smooth at 1080p on ultra settings - including past troublemakers like Wildlands and Watchdog2 - I am not coming close to anything beyond 40fps in those same games at 4K. Should I just give up the dream of single-card 4K gaming and let my Sony TV do the up-converting for me? Honestly, things looks a bit better (more colorful) in 1080p. I suspect most games don't have 4K textures so forcing the resolution is weakening the overall quality. So far the only advantage to 4K seems to be disabling AA but that slight increase in FPS doesn't seem to offset the game rendering at 4x the resolution. Anyone have a good game example where they saw dramatic improvements from their last-gen card?
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 08:08:50
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I first thought it wasn't as impressive as I wanted it to be (I came from GTX 980Ti reference) but considering I was getting around 50-55fps on Wildlands with a mix of only medium and high and since switching cards I have everything on very high, texture ultra and all the settings towards the bottom flicked to on including turf settings I now get mid 70s. Now that's quite a big jump considering if I had those settings on my previous card I would most likely be in the low 40s....at best
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 08:17:45
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True. I guess my biggest concern is that games like Wildlands only use between 3-4GB of RAM so the other 7-8 is going to waste - at least in the benchmark results. Things may change in real gameplay. I also noticed sharp temp increases when turning v-sync off allowing FPS to jump from locked 60 to 77-85 fps. With v-sync on temp hovers at 63c but when unlocked increases to 70+ Not that its an issue for me since I always use v-sync to lock in at 60. It's also worth noting that 1440/60fps/ultra seems to be easily attainable with 1080ti. Doesn't really benefit me but for those with 1440 monitors, will be a nice perk.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 08:40:04
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Well you took the 2 most difficult games to test this card with in 4k. I personally think we're not quite there yet performance wise for single card 4k. Try just about any other game and you will not have issues with 4k. Also, reduce or even turn off the anti aliasing settings in the games, don't really need that performance zapping feature when playing at 4k. Since you have a 4k monitor, it's probably a bad idea to turn Vsync off to begin with since you will see image tearing once you exceed 60 fps. Oh, if you play Rise of the Tomb Raider, do NOT max out SSAA. I have 2 Hybrid 1080 Ti's and even while running at around 2050 Mhz, I "only" get between 70 and 110 fps when SSAA 4x is enabled.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 09:24:54
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Yeah in most games I've seen a considerable jump obviously coming from a GTX 780 lol... but with newer titles like Wildlands I just want to believe that the game is not optimised enough. I mean it is demanding yes, a lot is going on with textures, draw distance, just all those trees moving with the wind... but.. 1080 Ti should still destroy this game at 2K and I'm barely getting 60 fps on Ultra. You are right, wildlands only uses around 4.5GB of VRAM, so what the hell is going on with the rest of my vram? Even worse, my GPU utilisation is 87 per cent after running the inbuilt benchmark!! That is abysmal. My CPU shouldn't be bottlenecking my card at this res and preset (4690K) but it is being utilized at 65% avg with highs of 97%. When I get home tonight from work, I'm going to sit down and figure out if it is anything from my end. Getting drops of 40 FPS at 1440p with an OC'd FTW3 is not very "For the Win" I feel a bit like a loser right now lol :D This is unacceptable. That being said, it is a nice game so far and some of the graphics are pretty immersive.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 09:55:56
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Going from triple 780 classifieds to a single (or double) 1080ti has been dramatic for me. Obviously that's a few generation jumps, but getting 4:4:4 at 60hz on my samsung JS9000 improves things visually a lot, in addition to the speed and massive vram increase. There are a few settings that tend to nuke performance more than they are worth, so you just have to play around a bit to find the best medium.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 10:15:58
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To put a positive spin on my 1080ti upgrade - the VR performance boost is through the roof. Both Oculus and Vive are noticeably better. Battlezone is insane - much more crisp and smooth that on 980ti. Other games like Eagle Flight, Raw Data, and Wilson's Heart also better. Able to crank up all stats to max, even to the point of down-sampling to the HMD. Going to dive into EVE Valkyrie tonight and may never return to reality...
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 10:47:55
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Game Chronicles So what's it going to take to get some "next-gen" performance from this card? New drivers? Or just a game that is designed to take advantage of it? I upgraded my 980ti to a 1080ti and while everything runs silky smooth at 1080p on ultra settings - including past troublemakers like Wildlands and Watchdog2 - I am not coming close to anything beyond 40fps in those same games at 4K. Should I just give up the dream of single-card 4K gaming and let my Sony TV do the up-converting for me? Honestly, things looks a bit better (more colorful) in 1080p. I suspect most games don't have 4K textures so forcing the resolution is weakening the overall quality. So far the only advantage to 4K seems to be disabling AA but that slight increase in FPS doesn't seem to offset the game rendering at 4x the resolution. Anyone have a good game example where they saw dramatic improvements from their last-gen card?
Never seen a benchmark higher than 54 on wildlands or upper 40s on watchdogs 2 from trustworthy places. Some games you just have to accept arent exactly the ones to crank 4K up on. Personally I like eye candy when the game is new and i want the awe factor but by the time youve played a while you can usually spare some candy for higher FPS.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 10:59:59
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Going from 980Ti to 1080Ti gaming on a 1080p 144hz monitor I've noticed a significant boost. Games like Witcher 3 are now playable at max settings w/ hairworks without noticeable slowdowns or issues. I do think drivers right now aren't the greatest though. Also, I don't believe Wildlands was very well optimized.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 14:17:32
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Thanks for reminding me. I need to play Witcher 3. Wildlands isn't nearly as optimized as Far Cry/Primal when it comes to outdoorsy games but Division runs like a dream in 4K at max settings. And DOOM is so smooth and pretty it made my eyes water. Need to try Quake Champions BETA. Sniper Elite 4 is also fantastic on 1080ti whereas Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 still has issues. It really is a coin toss as to what is optimized and what isn't.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 16:14:21
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Game Chronicles Thanks for reminding me. I need to play Witcher 3. Wildlands isn't nearly as optimized as Far Cry/Primal when it comes to outdoorsy games but Division runs like a dream in 4K at max settings. And DOOM is so smooth and pretty it made my eyes water. Need to try Quake Champions BETA. Sniper Elite 4 is also fantastic on 1080ti whereas Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 still has issues. It really is a coin toss as to what is optimized and what isn't.
Same goes for SLI scaling, which is why I'm on the fence about keeping the second TI I picked up..
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/22 18:44:41
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Glad you checked out other games. I can't believe Nvidia is still giving the poorly optimized console ports from Ubisoft as a promo with their self proclaimed single GPU 4K card. Must be some marketing scheme to try to sell a second one for SLI :P
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/23 00:15:07
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Witcher 3 looks incredible - my favourite game. With everything ultra and hairworks on 2xmsaa I get around mid 85-90. You're in for a treat.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/23 06:15:01
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Same goes for SLI scaling, which is why I'm on the fence about keeping the second TI I picked up..
I am sending my second one back today, it just feels like a waste of money since the gains aren't as impressive for the dollar cost.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/23 06:19:36
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Game Chronicles Thanks for reminding me. I need to play Witcher 3. Wildlands isn't nearly as optimized as Far Cry/Primal when it comes to outdoorsy games but Division runs like a dream in 4K at max settings. And DOOM is so smooth and pretty it made my eyes water. Need to try Quake Champions BETA. Sniper Elite 4 is also fantastic on 1080ti whereas Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 still has issues. It really is a coin toss as to what is optimized and what isn't.
Can you please list all of your system specs to include CPU, memory, PSU?
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/23 07:03:00
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Can I ask one of you guys to do something for me? Take a game like Total War Warhammer or GTA5, both of which have in game benchmark programs, and let me know your results at 4k IN ADDITION to ALL your settings. The problem I have is that I see folks getting 60fps or higher on games, but they NEVER show every single graphics setting. And if there are Advanced Settings like in GTA5, show me what you are using to get your frames for that too. Right now, with everything maxed on Total War Warhammer, the best I get is about 47fps.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/23 09:46:51
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rjohnson11
Game Chronicles Thanks for reminding me. I need to play Witcher 3. Wildlands isn't nearly as optimized as Far Cry/Primal when it comes to outdoorsy games but Division runs like a dream in 4K at max settings. And DOOM is so smooth and pretty it made my eyes water. Need to try Quake Champions BETA. Sniper Elite 4 is also fantastic on 1080ti whereas Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 still has issues. It really is a coin toss as to what is optimized and what isn't.
Can you please list all of your system specs to include CPU, memory, PSU?
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/23 10:01:35
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I'm running into a similar issue with Battlefield 1 at 3440x1440 on a single 1080 Ti. Ultra settings getting only 75-85 FPS in multiplayer, I was expecting quite a bit more.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/23 22:25:54
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Game Chronicles So what's it going to take to get some "next-gen" performance from this card? New drivers? Or just a game that is designed to take advantage of it? I upgraded my 980ti to a 1080ti and while everything runs silky smooth at 1080p on ultra settings - including past troublemakers like Wildlands and Watchdog2 - I am not coming close to anything beyond 40fps in those same games at 4K. Should I just give up the dream of single-card 4K gaming and let my Sony TV do the up-converting for me? Honestly, things looks a bit better (more colorful) in 1080p. I suspect most games don't have 4K textures so forcing the resolution is weakening the overall quality. So far the only advantage to 4K seems to be disabling AA but that slight increase in FPS doesn't seem to offset the game rendering at 4x the resolution. Anyone have a good game example where they saw dramatic improvements from their last-gen card?
Never seen a benchmark higher than 54 on wildlands or upper 40s on watchdogs 2 from trustworthy places. Some games you just have to accept arent exactly the ones to crank 4K up on. Personally I like eye candy when the game is new and i want the awe factor but by the time youve played a while you can usually spare some candy for higher FPS.
sounds like those 2 titles aren't optimized .
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 09:46:08
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I'm going to have to disagree. As I have Wildlands and definitely have over 60FPS on ultra 4k.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 09:53:14
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djoreyo I'm going to have to disagree. As I have Wildlands and definitely have over 60FPS on ultra 4k.
Really, well do you want to give us your specs and maybe your driver/OS as well??
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 09:56:34
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I'm just running the latest Nvidia drivers. My CPU is a 6700k OC'ed to 4.7ghz, Ram is G.Skill 32gb. Yes I have an SLI setup but one GPU is disable as Wildlands runs better with one card. SLI is broken in this game. Only thing turned off is AA.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 10:29:17
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djoreyo I'm just running the latest Nvidia drivers. My CPU is a 6700k OC'ed to 4.7ghz, Ram is G.Skill 32gb. Yes I have an SLI setup but one GPU is disable as Wildlands runs better with one card. SLI is broken in this game. Only thing turned off is AA.
Then you aren't running at ultra settings. If you did, you see results similar to this: Or
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 10:44:11
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Game Chronicles Thanks for reminding me. I need to play Witcher 3. Wildlands isn't nearly as optimized as Far Cry/Primal when it comes to outdoorsy games but Division runs like a dream in 4K at max settings. And DOOM is so smooth and pretty it made my eyes water. Need to try Quake Champions BETA. Sniper Elite 4 is also fantastic on 1080ti whereas Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 still has issues. It really is a coin toss as to what is optimized and what isn't.
Can you please list all of your system specs to include CPU, memory, PSU?
i7 4.0 ghz, 16GB RAM, Thermaltake 850 psu, Samsung 500gb ssd C:, 2TB WDC D:,Windows 10 64bit
Which i7 model specifically?
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 10:47:19
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Not true. Just turned it on and still benched 68fps in the game.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 10:50:50
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djoreyo Not true. Just turned it on and still benched 68fps in the game.
Can you re-verify the resolution of your monitor?
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 10:53:42
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I can send you a screen shot of it later but it's definitely 3840x2160. I'm headed out to lunch now.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 10:58:56
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djoreyo I can send you a screen shot of it later but it's definitely 3840x2160. I'm headed out to lunch now.
Yeah, 3840x2160 custom (no AA). Again, literally not ultra settings. However, even with custom ultra settings without AA there are serious dips below 60 FPS that break the experience. You and others might not notice it, but I do whenever a game drops below 55FPS - which is why I have to set 1080P ultra as that dips down to 60FPS sometimes, yet not below 55 that I've noticed.
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 11:45:38
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Game Chronicles Thanks for reminding me. I need to play Witcher 3. Wildlands isn't nearly as optimized as Far Cry/Primal when it comes to outdoorsy games but Division runs like a dream in 4K at max settings. And DOOM is so smooth and pretty it made my eyes water. Need to try Quake Champions BETA. Sniper Elite 4 is also fantastic on 1080ti whereas Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 still has issues. It really is a coin toss as to what is optimized and what isn't.
Can you please list all of your system specs to include CPU, memory, PSU?
i7 4.0 ghz, 16GB RAM, Thermaltake 850 psu, Samsung 500gb ssd C:, 2TB WDC D:,Windows 10 64bit
Which i7 model specifically?
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Re: Disappointing results with 1080ti SC
2017/05/24 11:58:43
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I'm sorry guys. SLI is indeed working on the game. Looks like one of the updates force change SLI to AFR1. This is most likely the reason I just benched in the 80 fps range.
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