MSim

SmookinJoe

MSim
Working on cutting coax cable for internet.

Go from cable 500/10 to fiber 500/500 for same price. Current testing out 1gb up/down but it's only getting around 800ish for up/down. Probably drop to 500/500 and still be fine.

You can always ask the question as to how much throughput your setup is capable of.
https://www.snbforums.com/
Nat translation, firewalls etc affect total throughput.
Currently looks like you are losing 200mbs
What speeds were you getting on the 500/10 setup?
You could possibly see a similar drop on the 500/500 as you are seeing now.
Are you testing directly connected to the fiber modem/router?

They have two plans for Fiber up to 500/500 or up to 1000/1000. So far 877/877 is best speed test i have seen on 1000/1000 plan. I'm directly connected to my router. Cox Cable i would get 560/10. Cox data cap is 1025GB a month, unlimited data is $49.99 a month. No data caps on fiber. 500/500 or even 500/300 would be just fine for me. Once in awhile i like to stream my gameplay to friends, 10mpbs for whole house isn't enough.
 
My router is over 5 years old. Not sure if a new one would improve speeds due to being hard wired to it.  

Ok
When I say directly connected...I literally mean your computer testing the speed is DIRECTLY connected with a cat(Whatever) cable going directly from your pc to the modem router that your ISP provided....No router, no switches, no WIFI between the two...For the best speed test results you even need to unplug your router so nothing else is accessing the internet connection.
Sounds like YOUR router is providing service to the house...what is your router connected to?
What is providing internet service to YOUR router?
That is where you find your true internet speed.
Check out SNB forum
If you buy a 1 gig router expecting to get 1 gig throughput you will be disappointed.
All I am saying is some routers preform much better than others..
Please check with those guys at SNB...
 

Bill your own router has throughput limits.
The fact that other equipment is sharing the internet connection reduces the speed.
The reason I brought it up is Msim is trying to determine what speed will keep him happy for the least money.
MSim needs to be aware his own equipment has limits that will affect his enjoyment of the internet...unexpected limits.
Last thing I would want is someone to spend money on a 1gig router that truly can't provide 1gig throughput.
Trust me I own a few...
https://www.tp-link.com/c.../vpn-router/tl-er6020/
GiG ports in and out but throughput is somewhere around 200Mbs
My guests accessing wifi enjoy 150Mbs up and down.
My network subnetted behind 2 more routers has a speed of

Turn the VPN option on one of the routers to move my network anywhere in the world

Anyone of these speeds is more than enough for me.
Fibre is the best and I bought all my equipment when 100mbps was fast.
I too have a 1gig complementary service that is at a cost of 100Mbps service.
I'm good with it.
 

bill1024
I had 300/300 for a long time and for quite a while 14 or more systems crunching plus surfing and playing games.
Never had  an issue with speed band-with. I went with the 1gb because they offered it to me with a package that came out costing me just a couple dollars more a month. The speed is crazy fast now as it was then.
So my point is I think he is getting about the most you can get on the equipment available and even if not you will not notice a huge difference in speed unless you are transferring really big 5gb files. Then it may take longer to download.
If he can save $$$ with 500/500 I myself would do it. 

I believe you...
Oh I added some pictures to my previous post.

 
Here's our new speed.

 

SmookinJoe
Shouldn't your upload be higher?
Fiber is like dsl..they are balanced almost equal usually..
We're you uploading something during the test?

 
Nope. This is a coax connection, not fiber. Used to be 200/35 then they messed up and made it 200/10 and would not revert it back.. longish and frustrating story. To get their top tier 35Mbps upload speed now, I'd have to pay an additional $50/month (and that would be 1Gig download speed), otherwise 20Mbps up is the best I can get. The current plan is 300/20 so I'm getting faster download speed than I'm supposed to. The company (Altice) does not have fiber wired into our building yet, only coax.
 
Verizon FIOS have wired up our building for fiber though, right up to a demark point outside every apartment door, so I will consider them because it's 1Gig up and down, but they made a mess installing into my neighbors apartment so I'm hesitant unless I run the cable myself.. I think I commented about this on previous page.
 

One thing I wanted to point out..
The reason my throughput slows my connection down is the Gateway router is a Dual Wan Safestream and allows me to put things like Session Limits on my guests.
The router is older tech and helps me keep my guests safe, from one another, as well as the world wide web.
The most important thing about Session Limits they keep Windows 11 from burning out AP's.
I put two computers side by side to compare the demands of Windows 11 vs Windows 10.
Couple of identical pages on the two machines... Win 11..150+ Win 10..30
Combine that with multiple pages... a Windows 11 machine can burn out a brand new AP in hours.
(Had to replace a new ap after a new guest complained they, suddenly, had no wifi...I hadn't put them in the session group yet...smh...that is why I did the comparison)
I was just looking at options for a multi gig throughput router and it didn't have options that I do.
I recently upgraded all my guests to a single EAP245 and they are thrilled with the performance.
I think I am happy, for the moment, with my setup...lol

In the middle of an upgrade with Telus Fibre.
They replaced the modem/router because they said it wasn't capable of 1 gig speed (which is what my plan is)
After the replacement the speed still wasn't consistent and didn't hit 1gig.
They will be replacing the chip in the new modem/router and increasing my plan speed to 3gigs at no extra cost.
If I see consistent 1gig+ speeds at the modem/router I will consider upgrading some of my equipment.

The two higher readings were done while connected directly to modem/router

I will be happy with 1 gig consistent
My managed switches are 1 gig

A number of years back, the cable company made the mistake of F'ing up the cable service.
They kept removing favorites on my boxes too.
This last time I never called them for 2 weeks and since the guests never asked about it...I called and thanked the cable guy and told them to cancel my service.
I had hated them for years because they insisted every tv tuner needed a box.
I had to shutdown my entertainment center in the livingroom.
Tv had PIP (2 tuners), surround sound system had 3 vcrs (3 tuners), and a pc with ATI 8500DV with remote (1 tuner) it could pause live tv like a PVR.
 
Would have needed 6 boxes not including, the office, the bedroom, the bar, the pool table room and the livingroom in the guesthouse .
I now have Android boxes.

Nereus
 
We just have Amazon Fire TV 4K dongles for the TVs now, and we added apps for other services like Netflix etc., although our Samsung smart TVs can do the same. Also still have a collection of blu-ray disc movies (and player obviously) in the unlikely event we lose connectivity for a longer period, although there's hotspot so.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Most of the time we're on our desktops/laptops/tablets/phones. Kind of antisocial in a way, but that's just how technology is these days. We have family game nights a couple of nights a week during and after dinner. Might be Uno or Card Monopoly or 'cards against humanity' or Parcheesi.. whatever, gives us some together time that technology has taken away. :)
 

MSim

Nereus
The message must have got through that we're about ready to dump our ISP.. they just increased our download speed to 500Mbps for no additional charge. Upload speed still capped at 20Mbps though, unfortunately (COAX connection, not fiber).
*snip*

One thing i have noticed about cox "free" internet speed increase. Every time the do it within 6 months they costs of business has gone up and increase internet fee by at least $3. Cox Cable in my neighborhood is like 580ish/ 10up, unless you want to pay for gigablast plan but that plan only has like 30mbps upload and of course Cox famous 1025GB data cap ($50 more a month for unlimited).
 
I plan on pushing to keep Fiber Internet were currently testing out and ditching Cox internet, even if it's a few dollar more a month. Every month or two cox would do maintenance around 12-1am and our internet would be down for 3-4hrs. 

Optimum keeps nudging their prices up too - I had enough and that's what started me doing something about it.
 
Similar to Optimum (my ISP) - you can only get 35mbps upload if you pay for the 1Gig download plan, which is about $50/month more. Anything beyond those speeds requires fiber.
 
Having a data cap is atrocious in this day an age! That's a lot of data, but doable, particularly when you have families with people working from home.
 

 
What a bunch of cox.
 

jeffro66
I've got metronet fiber 1gig the fastest i have seen it is 800m down 150m up they came and looked at it started to say was on my end till he seen my computer and i had it hard wired with Ethernet8 cable and i install some fiber installs lol but it works good so i let it go they don't have a good fiber backbone like the place where i work.
 
where fixing to crank up fiber in my area so i'll be able to compare shortly

ty jeffro66!
 
metronet appears to be available in my city.

MSim

Nereus

MSim

Nereus
The message must have got through that we're about ready to dump our ISP.. they just increased our download speed to 500Mbps for no additional charge. Upload speed still capped at 20Mbps though, unfortunately (COAX connection, not fiber).
*snip*

One thing i have noticed about cox "free" internet speed increase. Every time the do it within 6 months they costs of business has gone up and increase internet fee by at least $3. Cox Cable in my neighborhood is like 580ish/ 10up, unless you want to pay for gigablast plan but that plan only has like 30mbps upload and of course Cox famous 1025GB data cap ($50 more a month for unlimited).
 
I plan on pushing to keep Fiber Internet were currently testing out and ditching Cox internet, even if it's a few dollar more a month. Every month or two cox would do maintenance around 12-1am and our internet would be down for 3-4hrs. 

Optimum keeps nudging their prices up too - I had enough and that's what started me doing something about it.
 
Similar to Optimum (my ISP) - you can only get 35mbps upload if you pay for the 1Gig download plan, which is about $50/month more. Anything beyond those speeds requires fiber.
 
Having a data cap is atrocious in this day an age! That's a lot of data, but doable, particularly when you have families with people working from home.
 

Years ago when Cox first added data caps, they claimed like  less than 10% of it's customers use over 1025GB of data a month. Which is bull and they know it. They push data caps to milk customers that have no real competitor to switch. In Area cox has real competitors, they give unlimited data free to keep customers.
 
 

I’m sure that when they looked at the data less than 10% of customers used more than the 1TB of data a month. It’s probably a limit they put in place a decade ago before 4K streaming and people started to cut the cable and stream everything. For a long time even with Netflix it was only streaming at 480p and 720p. Probably now it’s gone up substantially since they last time they looked at the numbers for how many hit the cap.