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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 05:22:38
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It’s definitely not that. It’s an intermittent pump noise. The VRM noise/ coil whine is way less annoying.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 05:24:38
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I started another RMA. The card was completely unacceptable. I wouldn’t have been surprised if they declined me in the future for physical damage if I returned it exactly as I got it.
One of the pwm connectors on the fan was cracked and had a pin completely exposed. The card was definitely quieter and the memory OC was better but not worth how bad it looked and possible future issues
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 06:32:08
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I'm running a stress test now, only the sliders, want to see what the average clock is on this card. I'll post graphs and charts after
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 06:51:26
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Can you make a regular video for a longer length and focus on where the noise seems to be coming from while running a PR test? It’s very hard to make any suggestions or conclusion from those audio clips.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 09:38:20
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14038 is where my card is now since I rebuilt my PC
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 10:59:46
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Jsunn So not going to lie, my replacement card seems to perform a little bit worse than my previous one.
Stock settings, LN2 BIOS Sliders to max, no other overclock Port Royal single run Old card: 14,308 New card: 14,034
🤔 Not happy with that score.
Hmmm Card is silent Card is in perfect condition
That is 2% difference, in other words within real world tolerances. In general one can, whether when benchmarking or using something in real world, get 2% difference from run to run even when absolutely nothing changed. Even if one card was really 2% slower all the time I personally prefer card that functions perfectly any time of the day, 2% isn't anything that would make difference to me in real world. I hope you get to enjoy your card for the very long time :)
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 13:51:29
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Jsunn So not going to lie, my replacement card seems to perform a little bit worse than my previous one.
Stock settings, LN2 BIOS Sliders to max, no other overclock Port Royal single run Old card: 14,308 New card: 14,034
That's normal run to run variation
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 15:26:04
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If you push all the sliders up without any clock offset , it could make you score less than a pure default run
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 19:25:29
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OK, I have been doing some comparisons. The replacement card can't overclock worth a darn. I can't make it through a port royal stress test with +80 on the core without a crash. I can't break 15k on Port Royal and barely break 14k. I older FTW3 had better scores than my replacement KP card. So now I am in a pickle, do I deal with the sound for the better performing card? or do I go with the more silent card, that doesn't perform as well? I know not too may folks get the opportunity to choose. Also, I definitely understand that it is less than a 2% difference, it just really bugs me that I am hitting this issue. I wish there was a way to determine 100% if it was the pump or not. -J
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 19:37:24
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Look up kingpin loud pump and you’ll see videos that have the same sound as yours. Mine did the same thing. Getting a silicon loser does suck tho.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 19:42:28
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Jsunn The replacement card can't overclock worth a darn. I can't make it through a port royal stress test with +80 on the core without a crash. I can't break 15k on Port Royal and barely break 14k. I older FTW3 had better scores than my replacement KP card. So now I am in a pickle, do I deal with the sound for the better performing card? or do I go with the more silent card, that doesn't perform as well? I know not too may folks get the opportunity to choose. Also, I definitely understand that it is less than a 2% difference, it just really bugs me that I am hitting this issue. I wish there was a way to determine 100% if it was the pump or not.
Overclock is not a promise. In my mind as long as one doesn't buy the card for the purpose of overclocking but actually using it in real world card that delivers on its advertised specs and runs fine is OK, that is all I care about. I don't care if I can push my "car" to go bit faster than what manufacturer claims it can do if that will mean it won't run as reliably or pleasantly.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 20:08:37
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Jsunn OK, I have been doing some comparisons. The replacement card can't overclock worth a darn. I can't make it through a port royal stress test with +80 on the core without a crash. I can't break 15k on Port Royal and barely break 14k. I older FTW3 had better scores than my replacement KP card. So now I am in a pickle, do I deal with the sound for the better performing card? or do I go with the more silent card, that doesn't perform as well? I know not too may folks get the opportunity to choose. Also, I definitely understand that it is less than a 2% difference, it just really bugs me that I am hitting this issue. I wish there was a way to determine 100% if it was the pump or not. -J
Performance is performance. You have to take into consideration how much its worth to you. Are you going to go under water? If you are then you probably want the better card. Is the noise really coming from the PCB? Or is it potentially something else? Is it constant? Personally I would rather have something that is a better piece of silicon than something that is objectively worse in every way other than some annoying, intermittent sounds. Also, in my experience, refurb anything is almost always exclusively worse than what I already had. Hence why I only RMA in the most dire circumstances.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 20:10:46
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Jsunn The replacement card can't overclock worth a darn. I can't make it through a port royal stress test with +80 on the core without a crash. I can't break 15k on Port Royal and barely break 14k. I older FTW3 had better scores than my replacement KP card. So now I am in a pickle, do I deal with the sound for the better performing card? or do I go with the more silent card, that doesn't perform as well? I know not too may folks get the opportunity to choose. Also, I definitely understand that it is less than a 2% difference, it just really bugs me that I am hitting this issue. I wish there was a way to determine 100% if it was the pump or not.
Overclock is not a promise. In my mind as long as one doesn't buy the card for the purpose of overclocking but actually using it in real world card that delivers on its advertised specs and runs fine is OK, that is all I care about. I don't care if I can push my "car" to go bit faster than what manufacturer claims it can do if that will mean it won't run as reliably or pleasantly.
If you're talking about a kingpin card though, it's built to be overclocked. That is its purpose. If someone wanted a card to run stock and game on any of the reference pcb cards would do. Or if you can't get your hands on one, any of the factory OC ones. There is literally no reason to get a kingpin unless you're going to be overclocking it to the nines. Otherwise why pay an extra $500?
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/19 20:57:29
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Jsunn The replacement card can't overclock worth a darn. I can't make it through a port royal stress test with +80 on the core without a crash. I can't break 15k on Port Royal and barely break 14k. I older FTW3 had better scores than my replacement KP card. So now I am in a pickle, do I deal with the sound for the better performing card? or do I go with the more silent card, that doesn't perform as well? I know not too may folks get the opportunity to choose. Also, I definitely understand that it is less than a 2% difference, it just really bugs me that I am hitting this issue. I wish there was a way to determine 100% if it was the pump or not.
Overclock is not a promise. In my mind as long as one doesn't buy the card for the purpose of overclocking but actually using it in real world card that delivers on its advertised specs and runs fine is OK, that is all I care about. I don't care if I can push my "car" to go bit faster than what manufacturer claims it can do if that will mean it won't run as reliably or pleasantly.
If you're talking about a kingpin card though, it's built to be overclocked. That is its purpose. If someone wanted a card to run stock and game on any of the reference pcb cards would do. Or if you can't get your hands on one, any of the factory OC ones. There is literally no reason to get a kingpin unless you're going to be overclocking it to the nines. Otherwise why pay an extra $500?
Then he should reach out to EVGA and see what is their take.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/20 04:16:52
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The noise was/is horrible. The noise on mine would start and stop every 2-3 seconds and last for a second or two. I tried to ignore it but it’s horrible. The regular pump whine is annoying but this was an a different level.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/20 04:48:10
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So I think I determined that the noise is the pump. https://photos.app.goo.gl/timXW3McBuAPvBxk9It's a video of me placing a magnet temporarily on the pump motor as some have suggested. The noise goes away completely. Let me know if you can view it. Because I am more confident that it is the pump, and also that I will be putting a waterblock on it, I'm going to keep the old card. J
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/20 07:07:30
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Here is what I meant for a PR test. Heres a vid of mine buzzing during the benchmark. Mine is on a loop so you can compare the "pure" VRM noise to yours. [tube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TylzkppSwVs[/tube] Edit: thanks for the vid. It sounds like you have a combo of some pump noise and VRM buzzing. It could easily be bubbles and the magnet is just reducing the speed of the pump, not sure and time will tell I suppose. The 3090 hybrid pumps just aren't silent. Yours doesn't seem that bad. My first card was significantly louder than the D5 pump I have and the pump died in a few weeks.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/20 10:05:40
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Jsunn So I think I determined that the noise is the pump.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/timXW3McBuAPvBxk9
It's a video of me placing a magnet temporarily on the pump motor as some have suggested. The noise goes away completely. Let me know if you can view it.
Because I am more confident that it is the pump, and also that I will be putting a waterblock on it, I'm going to keep the old card.
J
Interesting. I could swear that noise in this clip sounds different than one in clips you initially posted. Initial ones sounded electrical to me, this one sounds bit more mechanical. If you are confident it is a pump and that you will be replacing it then you have answered your dilemma.
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/20 11:34:43
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Jsunn So I think I determined that the noise is the pump.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/timXW3McBuAPvBxk9
It's a video of me placing a magnet temporarily on the pump motor as some have suggested. The noise goes away completely. Let me know if you can view it.
Because I am more confident that it is the pump, and also that I will be putting a waterblock on it, I'm going to keep the old card.
J
Wow - mine was SO much louder than that! It was quickly becoming progressively worse, so I finally sent it in for RMA. I literally just got an email from UPS about how it is being delayed in shipment to EVGA  . This after UPS screwed up the shipment a week ago and I had to resend it  - I think I will have to let EVGA know it may be a day late  .
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/20 13:18:32
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@ redteamgo, did you take off the BPC?
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/20 20:12:02
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I contacted EVGA and let them know that I was going to be sending back the replacement card and that I would live with the noisy card. They were more than gracious, and suggested that if I was comfortable, I could swap the cooler off of the noisy one and put on the cooler from the replacement card. I will think it over the next couple of days. I guess it would be an opportunity for me to reapply the thermal paste for maybe some cooler temps. Any thoughts? Any reason not to do this? I'm super impressed with their customer support. -J
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/20 23:40:27
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Jsunn I contacted EVGA and let them know that I was going to be sending back the replacement card and that I would live with the noisy card. They were more than gracious, and suggested that if I was comfortable, I could swap the cooler off of the noisy one and put on the cooler from the replacement card. I will think it over the next couple of days. I guess it would be an opportunity for me to reapply the thermal paste for maybe some cooler temps. Any thoughts? Any reason not to do this? I'm super impressed with their customer support. -J
Thats awesome that they offered for you to try that. I'd jump all over it....Take both em apart...as you said new pads n grease...wow up with the best of each ;)
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/21 08:01:21
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Jsunn I contacted EVGA and let them know that I was going to be sending back the replacement card and that I would live with the noisy card. They were more than gracious, and suggested that if I was comfortable, I could swap the cooler off of the noisy one and put on the cooler from the replacement card. I will think it over the next couple of days. I guess it would be an opportunity for me to reapply the thermal paste for maybe some cooler temps. Any thoughts? Any reason not to do this? I'm super impressed with their customer support. -J
Thats awesome that they offered for you to try that. I'd jump all over it....Take both em apart...as you said new pads n grease...wow up with the best of each ;)
Yeah, I think I am going to move forward with swapping the coolers. I am having a hell of a time finding the pad thickness for the front and back of the Kingpin. Anyone have any resources for the Hybris card pad thickness for the Kingpin? Thanks, Jason
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/21 21:28:32
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Well, I swapped the coolers and upgraded the thermal paste while I was at it! I think I got a couple degrees better, but more importantly I have a silent GPU that has a bit of overclocking headroom! So kudos to EVGA and their customer service! They were very helpful throughout this whole process and even suggested things I wasn't even thinking of. Happy customer here! -J
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/21 21:34:43
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Jsunn Well, I swapped the coolers and upgraded the thermal paste while I was at it! I think I got a couple degrees better, but more importantly I have a silent GPU that has a bit of overclocking headroom! So kudos to EVGA and their customer service! They were very helpful throughout this whole process and even suggested things I wasn't even thinking of. Happy customer here!
That is great news! I'm glad everything worked out for you!
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/22 08:05:17
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kraade @ redteamgo, did you take off the BPC?
hey kraade, the BPC is on for that video and is running like a champ. There is no audible noise from it through after the loop is bled. It did take probably a week for the loop to fully bleed all of the bubbles but no issues. Did you get your block installed? Post some pics if so!
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/02/22 16:55:13
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kraade @ redteamgo, did you take off the BPC?
hey kraade, the BPC is on for that video and is running like a champ. There is no audible noise from it through after the loop is bled. It did take probably a week for the loop to fully bleed all of the bubbles but no issues. Did you get your block installed? Post some pics if so!
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/03/16 15:11:26
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experiencing this exaccctt issue, going over the RMA submission as we speak
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/03/16 15:31:29
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SpookyActionALT64Distance experiencing this exaccctt issue, going over the RMA submission as we speak
Just sent you a PM
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Re: Buzzing noise coming from my 3090 Kingpin, don't think its the pump...?
2022/03/18 14:31:10
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Jsunn Well, I swapped the coolers and upgraded the thermal paste while I was at it! I think I got a couple degrees better, but more importantly I have a silent GPU that has a bit of overclocking headroom! So kudos to EVGA and their customer service! They were very helpful throughout this whole process and even suggested things I wasn't even thinking of. Happy customer here! -J
That's awesome that they did that. If they could fix some of these AIO issues, it'd be great. Unfortunately it's up to Asetek since that's who everyone buys from since they own the AIO patents. IIRC, we're on Gen 6 on these AIOs that most competitors use as well.
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