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2020/09/09 23:51:34 (permalink)
I snagged a B-Stock 980 Ti GAMING ACX 2.0+ for $60 on a Wednesday sale two months ago, but my excitement was short-lived.
  • The initial card worked for maybe ten hours.  Then the PC shut down three times, the last accompanied by a buzzing noise and bad smell from the card.  RMA-ed it.
  • The replacement ran simple benchmarks, but crashed with shader errors or black screens with actual games.
  • The third card would display blue artifacts during boot, hanging before the Windows desktop.
  • The fourth card hangs Windows when running benchmarks or games.
These 980 Tis failed in two different PCs, which currently run a 780 Ti and a 1080 Ti just fine, and have newer Corsair 750 watt HXi and 850 watt RMx power supplies.  This makes me pretty sure it's the 980 Tis that are bad.  I have some sympathy for the first card, but I don't understand how the three replacements made it through any sort of QC before being sent to me.  I have no confidence a fifth card will be any better.  Anyone else have an experience like this, or advice?  Shipping these back is getting old, but at least EVGA paid for shipping this last time.
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    ty_ger07
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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/11 22:07:54 (permalink)
    I don't think that there is necessarily anything wrong with 980 Ti B-stock or RMA quality.  I think there is more a problem with 980 Ti quality in general.  980 Ti video cards all of the sudden started failing at a horrendous rate.  No matter how hard you look, I think it is unlikely that you will find a 980 Ti which isn't on the brink of failing.  It wouldn't surprise me if just sending it in the mail was what pushed it over the brink.
    At this rate, thankfully, the remaining stock of 980 Ti video cards will be exhausted, and then you can look forward to EVGA being forced to give you some newer model of equal or greater performance which isn't so likely to be on its death bed.
    Keep insisting on free replacements where EVGA covers the shipping cost.  You'll help everyone out by eliminating the supply, then you and all your fellow 980 Ti owners will finally be in the clear.
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/09/11 22:12:01
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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/12 20:46:50 (permalink)
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    I don't think that there is necessarily anything wrong with 980 Ti B-stock or RMA quality.  I think there is more a problem with 980 Ti quality in general.  980 Ti video cards all of the sudden started failing at a horrendous rate.  No matter how hard you look, I think it is unlikely that you will find a 980 Ti which isn't on the brink of failing.  It wouldn't surprise me if just sending it in the mail was what pushed it over the brink.
    At this rate, thankfully, the remaining stock of 980 Ti video cards will be exhausted, and then you can look forward to EVGA being forced to give you some newer model of equal or greater performance which isn't so likely to be on its death bed.
    Keep insisting on free replacements where EVGA covers the shipping cost.  You'll help everyone out by eliminating the supply, then you and all your fellow 980 Ti owners will finally be in the clear.




    Not sure I read anywhere of these having a failure rate any higher than any other series. My Nephew is still running my overclocked 980 Ti with zero issues. I might be able to buy aging TIM...

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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/13 06:32:21 (permalink)
    You haven't seen that they are burning up VRM left and right? One day it just started to happen. We were up to one reported card burning up per week here for a while.

    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/09/13 06:45:26
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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/23 04:04:35 (permalink)
    Might want to look into your Corsair PSUs.

    I’ve purchased maybe 5 or 6 of these cards most recently a hybrid and they have been fine.

    I did however kill two 750w corsairs overclocking a different brand of 980ti. The PSU could initially handle the card, but what happened was after a few months the PSU was unable to take the sudden ramp up current.
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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/23 10:08:41 (permalink)
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    You haven't seen that they are burning up VRM left and right? One day it just started to happen. We were up to one reported card burning up per week here for a while.



     So for a short period of time there were a lot of reports then suddenly the decline to nothing again? I'm around just as much as anyone and I have not seen any reports of this over the usual noise level. I'd more likely believe aging TIM as an issue. My over clocked reference 980 TI is being used by my Nephew pretty much 24/7 for years. Also, as a technical point, the inductor is not the likely failure. Another component failed overloading the inductor. Which is why replacing the inductor isn't a solution despite it frequently being offered as one. Anecdotal evidence ya know....
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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/23 15:39:42 (permalink)
    I never said that it was a normal or abnormal spike compared to past generations. That's not for me to decide. I never made a claim of what the root cause is. All I said is that there is an overwhelming amount of evidence to show that a noteworthy amount of these cards of this age started failing around the same time. I offered the video as an indication that I am not the only one who noticed an obvious spike in failures.  If you look on this forum between December 2017 and March 2018, the spike in failures is very noticeable.  The failure reports on this forum continued until February 2019.  I was keeping track for a while, and it reached approximately 1 report per week here at one point.  Then, the reports slowed to a trickle.  I speculate that the reports have slowed to a trickle because the use of these 3-generation-old video cards has slowed to a trickle.  Everything about these video cards in this forum has slowed to a trickle.
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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/24 07:45:47 (permalink)
    bump.
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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/24 09:56:59 (permalink)
    I personally purchased 2x 980 Ti Classified cards off B-stock and They ran great for the 3 years of use they got until they were recently sold. It's always a possibility your PSU or another component is secretly behind the failures; however B-Stock cards can be a toss-up IMHO, you never know if they were simply someone's 90-day step up card being returned, or one that was returned for a reason, and or abused.  I got a 660 Ti(was clearly not a new card) replacement for an old GTX 570 a long time ago, and it failed within the first hour of use, so to me it's pretty clear, the testing methodology EVGA uses for it's b-stock/refurbs is not likely not very thorough, but thankfully they do offer that 1 year warranty. I think you just have to take your chances and have it replaced again and remember, that at this point these 900 series cards came out 5ish years ago, and who knows what kind of abuse they had in their past life. In regards to power supplies, I am not fond on ANY Corsair products as of recently and have first hand seen plenty of failed power supplies, and memory modules. I'm a firm believer in the fact Corsair had such a large growth in recent years and has branched out in so many different areas, that they have started cutting corners where it matters most to keep costs down like so many other companies have done over the course of history.....but that's just my conspiracy  have you monitored your voltages at all with a program like HWMonitor?

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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/25 07:02:58 (permalink)
    My buddy bought his 980ti back in the summer of 2015, Gigabyte Windforce OC which he sold to me a few months back when I sold my 2080ti and it runs like a champ!

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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/25 13:38:59 (permalink)
    there is a reason they're b-stock. whether it's just someone upgrading, or a broken card that EVGA thought they fixed, they're all used and more likely to be broken. 

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    Re: B-Stock 980 Ti quality awful? (four bad cards now) 2020/09/25 14:08:08 (permalink)
    This is a bummer to hear. My 1080 Ti SC 2 bstock has been great.
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