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ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards

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2021/12/31 00:04:24 (permalink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/290386/asus-is-working-on-a-ddr4-ram-adapter-for-ddr5-motherboards
 
With the current short supply and maybe more importantly, the rather insane pricing for DDR5 memory, ASUS is working on what could be called a quick fix for the problem, an adapter that would allow DDR5 motherboard owners to put DDR4 memory in their motherboards. It's not what we'd call an elegant solution at this point, but it's said it'll be refined before it's ready for retail—if it ever enters the market—since apparently the engineer that developed the adapter doesn't always get to see his projects hit retail, as from our understanding he's responsible for a lot of the more unusual products from ASUS' ROG brand.

That said, considering that a lot of high-end Z690 motherboards only support DDR5, this might be an interim solution that makes sense for a lot of people until availability of DDR5 improves. There's some complexity in making the adapter work though, as not only does it need its own power regulation, since DDR4 memory doesn't have onboard power conversion components unlike DDR5, but there's also the 2x 32-bit vs 64-bit bus to take into consideration as well. On top of this, the DRAM traces are obviously extended, which could lead to instabilities, which is why it's apparently only tested with one type of memory right now, which appears to be G-Skill's Tridentz Royal. A further limitation of the adapter is that it requires a special UEFI version to be installed that allows DDR4 memory to be used, but this might be the smallest issue in this "skunk works" project from ASUS' ROG team.
 
Personally I think the complexity of this device probably means it won't make it to market anytime soon. 
 


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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2021/12/31 04:05:19 (permalink)
    Granted this is probably and engineering prototype, but they would also have to get the height down to a manageable size.   Cost might also be a factor as to whether consumers would consider this as an interim option.


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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2021/12/31 04:52:16 (permalink)
    That's a smart idea.
    I like seeing a prototype with a bodge wire.
    It looks like most of the height is there to allow a SATA power connector to be plugged into its side. If they decide that it doesn't need the extra power, the height should be able to easily be reduced.

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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/03 10:38:26 (permalink)
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    Granted this is probably and engineering prototype, but they would also have to get the height down to a manageable size.   Cost might also be a factor as to whether consumers would consider this as an interim option.


    yea, the height has me scratching my head, hopefully they can get it down in size.  Might need some vertical Ram mounts lol.  

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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/03 10:41:37 (permalink)
    That would block a lot of airflow but probably a lot of buyers already would have DDR4 so it could be a great solution to save them money until DDR5 prices drop.
     
    I am wondering if it would work on other motherboards or if the bios would have to recognize it and Asus would use that to keep it to themselves. 

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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/03 18:16:25 (permalink)
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    Granted this is probably and engineering prototype, but they would also have to get the height down to a manageable size.   Cost might also be a factor as to whether consumers would consider this as an interim option.


    yea, the height has me scratching my head, hopefully they can get it down in size.  Might need some vertical Ram mounts lol.  

    As I said, it is because they included the option for adding a SATA power connection into the side of the adapter. In the picture, it is unpopulated and they aren't using it. If they decide.that they don't need it, they should be able to reduce the height significantly.

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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/04 01:17:20 (permalink)
    Adapters are a bad thing. Don't see this going well.
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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/04 12:33:21 (permalink)
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    Adapters are a bad thing. Don't see this going well.




    care to elaborate?
     
    loss of performance?
    system instability?
     
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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/04 13:36:43 (permalink)
    Surely there will be some loss of performance as you're running ddr4 on a ddr5 board. I could see instability being an issue too.
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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/06 10:21:06 (permalink)
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    Surely there will be some loss of performance as you're running ddr4 on a ddr5 board. I could see instability being an issue too.




    well... that's not very appealing actually... lets wait and see...

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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/06 10:37:19 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Surely there will be some loss of performance as you're running ddr4 on a ddr5 board. I could see instability being an issue too.

    I would assume that it is for people who don't have another choice. Performance reduction is 100% certain.
    You already have a motherboard? You already have a CPU? You are just waiting for DDR5 memory to be available? There's this adapter to get you going in the meantime...

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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/06 13:14:12 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Adapters are a bad thing. Don't see this going well.




    If you can't get the DDR5 but have DDR4 laying around I really don't see a downside. I mean we all know it will probably not overclock as well and decrease performance but without memory you don't have a working computer.
     
    It's like saying on board video is bad which it is but I personally like having it as an option if I had to send in my GPU. 

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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/06 21:09:34 (permalink)
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     but without memory you don't have a working computer.
     



    Yup, and a working computer is better than no computer.
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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/10 08:43:41 (permalink)
    Haha what the heck that looks like it will get in the way of some coolers
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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/10 18:32:29 (permalink)
    They have to do something. I won’t buy a board until I can buy RAM at MSRP which is already outrageous.

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    Re: ASUS is Working on a DDR4 RAM Adapter for DDR5 Motherboards 2022/01/11 01:58:14 (permalink)
    gutcheck
    They have to do something. I won’t buy a board until I can buy RAM at MSRP which is already outrageous.



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