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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/08/21 15:36:54 (permalink)
my 4GB 770 Dual SC ACX is 86.5% and Boosts to 1228 out of the box.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/08/21 16:39:26 (permalink)
The + offset figures are meaningless without the end result clock speed aswell.
We dont know if that +150 means u have a 1300mhz card or a 1200mhz card.
 
my Asic is 87.9, but i can only go up to 1.175v ..not the usual 1.200v
And my card 'sems' to be a hot runner. At 1.175v i need the fan at 90% during a crysis 3 gaming session. And at stock 1.162v i need 76% fan speed.
 
however all that said my end clock at 1.175mv is 1267mhz (+92mhz offset). And so far its game stable (Crysis3, Tera, Firefall, GW2, Unigen benchmarks, Metro Ll benchmarks)
But thats as high as i can go, im at my max voltage with stock Bios (115% power target one), any higher and it artifacts.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/17 15:12:50 (permalink)
If I have a low ASIC score of 68 % can or will Evga allow me to RMA the card?

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/17 16:12:55 (permalink)
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If I have a low ASIC score of 68 % can or will Evga allow me to RMA the card?


Of course not!

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I do not think ASIC is useful, if anything it allows some users to make themselves feel better (or worse) about their purchases as if price and performance alone wasn't enough.


Uh huh! I agree 100%. I just provided a similar argument earlier today.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/17 17:10:12 (permalink)
Im looking into buying a used Titan with a score of 75.9, is that good?
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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/17 17:12:03 (permalink)
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Im looking into buying a used Titan with a score of 75.9, is that good?


Considering that ASIC quality is virtually meaningless with no statistical trend enforcing its value, sure that is good.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/17 17:23:25 (permalink)
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Im looking into buying a used Titan with a score of 75.9, is that good?


Considering that ASIC quality is virtually meaningless with no statistical trend enforcing its value, sure that is good.

 
Cant tell if that helpful or not :x, what would help me determine the statistical trend? 
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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/17 17:59:07 (permalink)
There is no statistical trend. This is a voodoo fairy tale.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/18 11:15:14 (permalink)
My previous 780 classy had an ASIC score of 64%. Even with Samsung memory, I couldn't get passed +300 on memory. Even with 1.35v
The one I got back from RMA is 76% and I can push the memory +600 plus with 1.2v stock bios on air.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/18 12:04:25 (permalink)
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My previous 780 classy had an ASIC score of 64%. Even with Samsung memory, I couldn't get passed +300 on memory. Even with 1.35v
The one I got back from RMA is 76% and I can push the memory +600 plus with 1.2v stock bios on air.



ASIC has nothing to do with the memory though, it is only for the actual GPU chip.  I sure hope you didn't RMA because of the low score or not being able to overclock the memory a certain amount.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/18 12:13:29 (permalink)
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My previous 780 classy had an ASIC score of 64%. Even with Samsung memory, I couldn't get passed +300 on memory. Even with 1.35v
The one I got back from RMA is 76% and I can push the memory +600 plus with 1.2v stock bios on air.



ASIC has nothing to do with the memory though, it is only for the actual GPU chip.  I sure hope you didn't RMA because of the low score or not being able to overclock the memory a certain amount.


My card actually had problems from the get go and literally died. Constant bsod x116 

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/18 12:18:48 (permalink)
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There is no statistical trend. This is a voodoo fairy tale.

Why would ASIC manufacturers invent a 'voodoo fairly tale'? If you were to say that for the average user it's mostly meaningless I wouldn't argue that. But to claim there are not defined characteristics that comprise the score would be false. Vendors use the ASIC quality to set VID for example.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/18 15:39:26 (permalink)
I'm saying for the average user it is mostly meaningless, yes.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/19 21:03:21 (permalink)
I picked up a 780 Ti SC tonight and my ASIC is 82.8%
 
Guess I got lucky?

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/19 21:46:22 (permalink)
 I also had a 780 Classified with an ASIC of 64 and it could not break 1202mhz even with added voltage. I sold that card. My 2 Classifieds that I am in the process of replacing had ASIC of 86 and 87 and overclocked very nicely on lower voltages. My two 780 Ti SC's have ASIC of 71 and 72 and so far I'm getting good OC results with stock bios despite the fairly low ASIC. So I have no idea what it all means. I need to stop reading these forums, lol. Ignorance was bliss...I miss the good old days when I didn't pay attention to overclocking, memory manufacturer, A1 vs B1 revision, ASIC, it is amazing how much OCD behavior these forums bring out!

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/19 22:14:17 (permalink)
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I picked up a 780 Ti SC tonight and my ASIC is 82.8%
 
Guess I got lucky?


Maybe. There are more variables than just the ASIC score in overclocking. It only takes one section of the GPU to be a bit 'weaker' than the rest of the die to limit your OC.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 01:32:06 (permalink)
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...I miss the good old days when I didn't pay attention to overclocking, memory manufacturer, A1 vs B1 revision, ASIC, it is amazing how much OCD behavior these forums bring out!



That have sense before when difference was not so big...But example 780 Classified some series get so nice memory and other very bad and that serious influence on performance but not on copy paste, that influence on something most important for us, 3D result jump seriously for 
rejecting something as not important. But for overclocking, for that and this type of card is mostly for that is disaster.
They sell some series with marketing and talking about some parts and than I know it's best when someone get some other thing to say I don't care and look other people how enjoy overclocking, that hurt, hurt so much how you like some brand and cards.
Other brands could laugh to us freely.  
I never saw so big difference on some series never in life. They could do that much better with little more time and separations ASICs and nice memory for Classified model than some people who payed even almost 100$ more get worse memory than some on reference PCB. You can't sell Dominator Platinum and Patriot for same price, but even that can't hit gaming performance as this.
For ASIC I can't say nothing...But more people talk about better OC on lower voltage with bigger ASIC but I really don't know.
If that is some indication than manufacturer have easier task to separate better chips for higher class if want to do that. If not I don't know...
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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 02:47:49 (permalink)
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my EVGA GeForce GTX 770 w/ ACX asic quality is 82.4 i can over clock my to 1300 core and the mem to + 350 so far on stock voltage.  

and its stable under load for several hours?  i'm skeptical :P

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 04:35:19 (permalink)
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I do not think ASIC is useful, if anything it allows some users to make themselves feel better (or worse) about their purchases as if price and performance alone wasn't enough.

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ASIC quality is not meaningless, it is significant number. If one has lower ASIC number = worse card, this number determines how card will boost - and because current Nvidia cards are based on GPU boost number has important value.

Lower value means that you have for your money lower quality.
I have e.g. 69% GTX 780, which is not very good and my max stable overclock is boosting only to 1189MHz. Normally I would return such a bad card to retailer, but I bought the cheapest GTX 780 available so I do not care.
58.3% is very bad card.
If you truly believe this, then what would say about my GPUZ screenshot since you can't just disregard it because it doesn't fit an accepted range?


from what ive heard the cards that can read and HAVE a ASIC number started in the 500 series,thus your stupid number from a laptop(420M) is not read right lol FWIW
my 680FTW+ 4G is a 77.6 and its factory boost is set at Classy(1176) speeds.Never even tried to OC it but im sure it will hit 1250-(maybe)1300 with ease

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 07:43:52 (permalink)
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I picked up a 780 Ti SC tonight and my ASIC is 82.8%
 
Guess I got lucky?


Maybe. There are more variables than just the ASIC score in overclocking. It only takes one section of the GPU to be a bit 'weaker' than the rest of the die to limit your OC.




It boosts to 1124 on it's own, is that decent for a Ti?

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 14:11:27 (permalink)
That's weird, that is my exact boost clock out of the box lol. my ASIC is only 73.8% though 

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 15:23:03 (permalink)
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That's weird, that is my exact boost clock out of the box lol. my ASIC is only 73.8% though 




My friend got a 780 SC Ti today, and his boosts to 1124 out of box as well. His ASIC is 74.6%
 
Do all the SC's boost to 1124? haha

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 16:01:44 (permalink)
how is this
 
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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 16:36:50 (permalink)
For what it is worth, my 780 Ti has an ASIC rating of 71.2% and boosts up to 1149 MHz with stock configuration.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 16:51:22 (permalink)
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My previous 780 classy had an ASIC score of 64%. Even with Samsung memory, I couldn't get passed +300 on memory. Even with 1.35v
The one I got back from RMA is 76% and I can push the memory +600 plus with 1.2v stock bios on air.



ASIC has nothing to do with the memory though, it is only for the actual GPU chip.  I sure hope you didn't RMA because of the low score or not being able to overclock the memory a certain amount.


My card actually had problems from the get go and literally died. Constant bsod x116 


The outstanding issues on your card would have made an impact on the overclocking, rather than anything you could determine by an ASIC score.

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 16:55:59 (permalink)
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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 17:27:52 (permalink)
From my own experience, ASIC has weight.
 
I have 3 Titans, The lowest is 73% and it can OC to 1215~ on water. The second is 77%? and can OC to 1263~+ My best card is almost 84% and I have benched that card over 1353 (with Sli I have to lower it), but more realistic was just over 1300.
 
I have not tried much since getting them because stock speed is plenty for my needs right now, but after this testing I do believe ASIC has valid meaning as to the quality of the gpu. Or at least how easy it is to OC. (I have tested each card individually)
 
Its crazy the range in quality of chips! To be fair I find the middle card to more cranky with benches etc. I have no idea how the BIOS interprets this and sets the VID, but the lower ASIC pumps more voltage than the middle when I require it so its easier to push, but again based on my results ASIC has a strong correlation to how much or stable you will be able to OC a gpu. 
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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/20 23:22:32 (permalink)
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Im looking into buying a used Titan with a score of 75.9, is that good?


Considering that ASIC quality is virtually meaningless with no statistical trend enforcing its value, sure that is good.

and you are right, hmmm my titan that is 66.7 out clocks the one that is 72.9. 
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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/21 12:35:42 (permalink)
I just got the 780 TI SC w/ACX cooler. Im stuck with 64.6% asic quality on the latest GPU-Z program. :( I thought Nvidia had better quality production as my previous GTX 780 was 89%. Maybe it has to do with the fully unlocked gk110 or the fact that the card is already overclocked? Also do you get good additional OC results? I tried boosting my power to 101% and my cpu to 150, memory to 200 and directX11 started running unstable and 3d mark and Heaven started to shut down. IDK, perhaps I should up my power to 104%? I wonder how much of a beating this already overclocked card can take before it starts to affect its performance permanently. I just dont want to jack up my card and not get my moneys worth.  Any help would be much appreciated!

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Re:ASIC quality GPU-Z 2013/11/22 12:21:23 (permalink)
80.5% here on my reference clocked Ti. I've just begun playing with overclocks. As noted above, at OCN there have definitely been relative results for higher ASIC cards.

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