http://www.donanimhaber.c...-ve-test-sonuclari.htm
 
In English: Donanimhaber
 
An actual B1 this time

Crusheddream

is that for real 1.4 Vcore?  Seems a bit high.  But nice none the less wish the L3 was a bit bigger maybe 12mb?

B1 Engineer Sample...1.4 Volts is a cat walk for it...It can go up to 1.9Volts if you want to OC it under LN2
(Production sample might be lower volts but who knows) 
L3 is okay as it is it is meant for back up for the L2
 
L2 = 8MB(Total)
L3 = 8MB
vs Intel's LGA 2011 Roadmap CPUs
L2 = 2MB(Total)
L2 = 15 MB
 
So, AMD has a faster L2 and a fast L3 for backup

Crusheddream

Just odd to see such a high Vcore :) oh well hopefully it gives atleast one of intels lines a run for their money maybe the higher end stuff will drop in price :)

Well this Engineer sample just absolute destroyed Intel
I don't know any single core benchies that they did but in Multithread oh jeez
 
This Engineer sample which has a much lower clock than that of Intel's 2600K
bested the 2600K in
x264 (1st pass and 2nd pass)
Fritz
Cinebench R10
 
All Multithreaded benchmarks and that is an Engineer Sample which AMD is scared scores would leak because Engineer Samples have awful quality

theGryphon

Do we have comparative numbers for Intel procs on those tests? Link? Thanks!

 


 

Well...while this is better than what I have been seeing, it still is no where near what amd claimed it would be...
 
Originally they showed a chart beating 980x by a wide margin, then they said 50% over i7. This is what 15-20 at best? Not looking to great...but I guess if this is what the $320 Chip is supposed to be then it is priced about right, little more than 2600k but less than the 6 cores.
 
Then again, according to the guy above me, it beats out a 980x in pass 2.
 
Still be interesting to see some in game benches say with Metro 2033, BFBC2, 3dMark 11, ect.

sengutso

Bruno747

Well...while this is better than what I have been seeing, it still is no where near what amd claimed it would be...

Originally they showed a chart beating 980x by a wide margin, then they said 50% over i7. This is what 15-20 at best? Not looking to great...but I guess if this is what the $320 Chip is supposed to be then it is priced about right, little more than 2600k but less than the 6 cores.

Then again, according to the guy above me, it beats out a 980x in pass 2.

Still be interesting to see some in game benches say with Metro 2033, BFBC2, 3dMark 11, ect.

nah the 980x beats the crap out of bulldozer on pass 2 bulldozer 45 980x 46

 
Lol sorry, i read that backwards, my mistake 980 is still ahead of bulldozer on pass 2 albeit by a small amount...

Bruno747

Well...while this is better than what I have been seeing, it still is no where near what amd claimed it would be...

Originally they showed a chart beating 980x by a wide margin, then they said 50% over i7. This is what 15-20 at best? Not looking to great...but I guess if this is what the $320 Chip is supposed to be then it is priced about right, little more than 2600k but less than the 6 cores.

Then again, according to the guy above me, it beats out a 980x in pass 2.

Still be interesting to see some in game benches say with Metro 2033, BFBC2, 3dMark 11, ect.

i7 950 not i7 980x
It performing near 980x at below stock clocks is a pretty good deal
 
I can't understand 3DMark 11
 

sengutso

 
 

980x stock ^^^^

Bulldozer

 

just incase u cant see since the pic is small

980x         Read   Write  Copy   Latency
L1 cache: Trial     53232 106411 1.2ns
L2 cache: 35478 32226 41199 Trial Version
L3 cache: 24713 15178 24674 Trial Version
base on the test amd 8 core dont stand a chance amd's l2 and l3 cache are faster on paper lmao!

 
The memory controller is still bugged out in B1 ES (L1 - L2 - L3 Memory Controller not the Memory controller for RAM)
 

sengutso
Bulldozer Benches up Top ^^^^
my i7 980x Stock
Results for x264.exe r1913

==========================

Pass 1
------
encoded 1442 frames, 155.35 fps, 3913.50 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 155.10 fps, 3913.50 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 155.35 fps, 3913.50 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 156.40 fps, 3913.50 kb/s

Pass 2
------
encoded 1442 frames, 46.61 fps, 3954.95 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 46.66 fps, 3956.14 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 46.87 fps, 3955.58 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 46.10 fps, 3955.64 kb/s 
Name Intel Nehalem

Codename
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz
Core Stepping B1
Technology 32 nm
Stock frequency 3333 MHz

Hmmm amds bulldozer cache is faster than intel and my 6 core whoop 8 core bulldozer on pass 1 pretty good.

 
ES Zambezi 8C will get you the same 2nd pass performance, It's funny that your CPUs stepping is also B1

sengutso

^^^ lol but u said amds cache is faster and why is it lagging on all test? im guessing if the memory controller is bugged out does it also affect the cpu's L1, L2 and L3 cache? base on the L cache test i7 980x destroyed bulldozer most of it.  

 
I said AMD has more cache not that it is faster
 
The Memory Controller doesn't look out of whack(I did say memory controller, sorry but what do I call what controls L1 and L2 and L3)
 
L1 and L2 have problems on writes but that could be a size issue
(980x L1 3.0ns 8130P ES L1 1.0ns so technically it is faster)
L3 has the most problems

sengutso

well i guess we gotta wait for the final product and reviews for 320$  its a good deal though.

Don't be shocked if it is faster than your 980X when the reviews come out
 
B1 ES High Yield to B2(Whatever they will call it) PS Acceptable Yield
 
Will have a different clock speed, hopefully
8130P
3.2->3.6GHz(TC) to 3.8GHz->4.2GHz(TC)
^If the asus leaks are real
A lot of the issues plaguing B1 will be fixed with the higher performing and more elegant fabrication process from high yield to acceptable yield

sengutso

seronx

sengutso

^^^ lol but u said amds cache is faster and why is it lagging on all test? im guessing if the memory controller is bugged out does it also affect the cpu's L1, L2 and L3 cache? base on the L cache test i7 980x destroyed bulldozer most of it.  

(980x L1 3.0ns 8130P ES L1 1.0ns so technically it is faster)
L3 has the most problems

lol 980x has 1.2 ns and bulldozer has ES has 1.0 ns and  if it is faster how do u explain the read, write and copy which bulldozer got destroyed dont that count more than the latency? in real world performance those read,write and copy will come to play the most if not all the time.

 
It is an engineer sample it's not perfect yet so when the reviews come out with the final version we don't know anything
To make it easier to understand engineering samples are beta samples
 
Alpha Samples are shortly after they taped out aka (A1)
Beta Samples is the maturing of the fabrication process (B0->B1)
Final samples are what people get(B2)
Final Revision Samples are for the people that can wait(C0)

seronx

sengutso

seronx

sengutso

^^^ lol but u said amds cache is faster and why is it lagging on all test? im guessing if the memory controller is bugged out does it also affect the cpu's L1, L2 and L3 cache? base on the L cache test i7 980x destroyed bulldozer most of it.  

(980x L1 3.0ns 8130P ES L1 1.0ns so technically it is faster)
L3 has the most problems

lol 980x has 1.2 ns and bulldozer has ES has 1.0 ns and  if it is faster how do u explain the read, write and copy which bulldozer got destroyed dont that count more than the latency? in real world performance those read,write and copy will come to play the most if not all the time.

It is an engineer sample to make it easier to understand engineering samples are beta samples

Alpha Samples are shortly after they taped out aka (A1)
Beta Samples is the maturing of the fabrication process (B0->B1)
Final samples are what people get(B2)
Final Revision Samples are for the people that can wait(C0)

is that for bulldozer or intel too?

I just have to say that at this point I think that I guess am going to quit looking for more information on bulldozer...Kinda getting tired of talking talking talking, and yet this chip is still 2+ months off. Seems this is the most leaks I have ever seen of a chip before it releases. It seems that one is just as fishy as the last.
 
Almost like there is ONE bulldozer chip going around, and everyone is only allowed 20mins with it...thus why we cant get a decent set of benches all from the same leak...
 
Everyone that is excited about this chip says that the clock issues were not real, and that they are holding off on releasing the chip to give llano a time in the spotlight. If this is so, then why have we not seen a ES that runs at the speced 8130 speeds. 3.8ghz stock.
 
AMD better have some plans for bulldozer in the future, if they are going to release a new architecture, and it is not going to beat intel's current one at release...bumping the clock 100mhz every 3 months is not going to make amd compete with haswell methinks
 
I hope the best for amd, but their future just keeps looking more bleak to me.

Bruno747

I just have to say that at this point I think that I guess am going to quit looking for more information on bulldozer...Kinda getting tired of talking talking talking, and yet this chip is still 2+ months off. Seems this is the most leaks I have ever seen of a chip before it releases. It seems that one is just as fishy as the last.

Almost like there is ONE bulldozer chip going around, and everyone is only allowed 20mins with it...thus why we cant get a decent set of benches all from the same leak...

Everyone that is excited about this chip says that the clock issues were not real, and that they are holding off on releasing the chip to give llano a time in the spotlight. If this is so, then why have we not seen a ES that runs at the speced 8130 speeds. 3.8ghz stock.

AMD better have some plans for bulldozer in the future, if they are going to release a new architecture, and it is not going to beat intel's current one at release...bumping the clock 100mhz every 3 months is not going to make amd compete with haswell methinks

I hope the best for amd, but their future just keeps looking more bleak to me.

 
well said my friend +1 

I just need you to watch this video
Water Chevrotain = AMD
Eagle = Intel
or did I get it backwards?
 

 

Bruno747
I just have to say that at this point I think that I guess am going to quit looking for more information on bulldozer...Kinda getting tired of talking talking talking, and yet this chip is still 2+ months off. Seems this is the most leaks I have ever seen of a chip before it releases. It seems that one is just as fishy as the last.

We are getting closer and closer to the CPUs launch on July 31st
 

Bruno747
Almost like there is ONE bulldozer chip going around, and everyone is only allowed 20mins with it...thus why we cant get a decent set of benches all from the same leak...

This is a new chip every other chip has been B0
 

Bruno747
Everyone that is excited about this chip says that the clock issues were not real, and that they are holding off on releasing the chip to give llano a time in the spotlight. If this is so, then why have we not seen a ES that runs at the speced 8130 speeds. 3.8ghz stock.

The ES Model has a Turbo core to 4.2GHz if it turns off 2 modules

Bruno747
AMD better have some plans for bulldozer in the future, if they are going to release a new architecture, and it is not going to beat intel's current one at release...bumping the clock 100mhz every 3 months is not going to make amd compete with haswell methinks

This is an ES model don't give up hopes, Next-gen Bulldozer by Haswell(2 generations of new Bulldozers...don't be shocked that Bulldozer(Zambezi+Komodo) versions can do x86-128...not really but if it had 1 core instead of 2 cores it could, the bulldozer(Zambezi) we have now(clarification))
 

Bruno747
I hope the best for amd, but their future just keeps looking more bleak to me.

I don't they booted out Nvidia in the Console GPU wars <--- and the mainstream and below with the APU

warlord420

OMG 186 TDP?

i dont care if its not efficent , its freaking capable. and in multicore apps this is gonna be beast.

 
125W TDP
1.1-1.3 Volts in production(<--TDP calculations)
 
The Engineer Samples don't live a long lifetime
 
All FX CPUs are unlockable aka have tweakable multipliers
 
The $280 model is one going for the throat of 2600K the $320 model is anything else in the future ;)