AMD Trinity may release on May 15

Cool, yet not.

I saw Tom's Hardware video from CeBit from one of their "closed door" demos showing it running an eyefinity setup. and, which I personally think is a better application of it, in a laptop.
 

 
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theGryphonOnly 6% FP improvement means Piledriver will not bring anything for folding :( I hope for AMD that at least power usage is better...

Trinity's CPU portion isn't aimed at F@H ...and F@H officials don't want to support CPU F@H anymore especially since they denied a petition for Bulldozer support.  The fact that there is some improvement in FP performance when compared to Llano(cough 32 nm Deneb+Regor/More) is hopeful.

Thanks Seronx ..
 
here's a link to the tom's hardware article i read about it in
 
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/AMD-Trinity-Piledriver-VCE-Demo,15009.html

Hey, that comes out on my birthday. It would actually be a nice midrange addition to my rig collection, too. Anybody going to gift me one for my 24th bday?

@xanderf: holy freakin cow! read your thread about Skyrim on Intel HD 3000 and almost had a heart attack because I was so excited! my supposedly underspec'd laptop with max turboboost-frequency of 3GHz Core i5-2430M with hyperthreading, 12GB of SODIMM memory and Seagate Momentus XT hi-speed/hi-capacity SSD-hybrid hard drive is now looking *really* promising!! I thought I was only going to be able to play older games that run sourceports or on DOSBox but now I'm quite literally going rabid with excitement! Even if I have to turn the graphics settings down to low and can only play at 720 res, portable Skyrim is still bleeping awesome!!!!!
 
Question: Does Skyrim allow multiple installs with the same license? I'm assuming yes because I think it uses Steam, if I'm not mistaken...

You can buy the Diablo III AMD Collector's Edition for $249.99(to late for April Fools, sorry guys)
It will/might come with:
An AMD Trinity A10-4800K
Diablo III Collector's Edition
An AMD Collector tin box with Diablo artwork.

anony-moose @xanderf: holy freakin cow! read your thread about Skyrim on Intel HD 3000 and almost had a heart attack because I was so excited! my supposedly underspec'd laptop with max turboboost-frequency of 3GHz Core i5-2430M with hyperthreading, 12GB of SODIMM memory and Seagate Momentus XT hi-speed/hi-capacity SSD-hybrid hard drive is now looking *really* promising!! I thought I was only going to be able to play older games that run sourceports or on DOSBox but now I'm quite literally going rabid with excitement! Even if I have to turn the graphics settings down to low and can only play at 720 res, portable Skyrim is still bleeping awesome!!!!!

 
Yeah, you'll be pretty surprised at how well it works.  I have played a number of hours into the game on the couch from that HTPC.  It works surprisingly well, but Skyrim is a good example of a game that scales nicely (it IS a very old engine).  I'm not 100% sure I'd put Deus Ex: HR on it, and Battlefield 3 would be iffy, too, but...yeah, it can handle modern games!
 

anony-mooseQuestion: Does Skyrim allow multiple installs with the same license? I'm assuming yes because I think it uses Steam, if I'm not mistaken...

It does, yeah - I've got it on my desktop, laptop, and the HTPC.
 
Note that it does use (as of the last few patches) the Steam 'cloud' to save the games.  So if you are relying on the 'autosave' point, rather than manually setting save points...weird things can happen if one PC "syncs" what it thinks is the right 'autosave' file over another PC's.

kougarSince Llano uses Phenom II, we're essentially comparing K10 to what is supposed to replace Bulldozer. So that's a pretty low boost in CPU performance for a Piledriver core. Extremely low for FP performance, AMD really needs to accelerate it's plans on offloading FP workloads to the integrated GPU.

Llano is actually K10.9(Phenom II was K10.5), FP is low because it has the same amount of pipes as before. (No changes to FP from Bulldozer -> Piledriver)  Integer score can imply they fixed the MMX unit pipe(Integer unit in the FPU) delay or they implemented the ability to process memory instructions in the memory pipes. (Yah, that is right the AGLU pipes can't process the more used memory instructions(only call, lea, push).).

kougarAll we need is an Ivy bridge CPU married to a Trinity GPU and things would be perfect.

I rather not have Ivy Bridge as of now Bulldozer has more scalability than Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge.   In some cases Bulldozer even beats Sandy Bridge-E but in other cases the weird bottlenecks causes performance decreases.  Some of bottlenecks can be explained like there can only be one x87 instructions per core per clock while Intel can have two per thread per clock and how the L1i keeps thrashing and how the data caches have a miss ratio of 9:1.  (I have no idea what I'm talking about with L1i/data caches so if someone is key on memory go explain).

A10-4600M - 5390 (1 sample) 45-55W TDP/2.3 GHz(2.7(QC)-3.2(DC) Turbo)
A8-3870 - 4894 (115 Samples) 100W TDP/3.0 GHz
FX-4170 - 4671 (21 samples) 125W TDP/4.2(QC)-4.3(DC) GHz
Phenom II X4 980 - 4474 (83 Samples) 125W TDP/3.7 GHz
 
A10-4600M performance wise competes against the i7 2720QM/3720QM (i7 2720QM - 6989 (890 Samples)/45W - $378)
A10-4600M price wise competes against the i5 2430M/i5 2410M (i5 2430 - 3467 (963 Samples)/35W - $225)
http://www.hardwarezone.c...trinity-apu-experience
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On the Vishera front... Vishera will be using the Orochi die Revision C.
http://images.bit-tech.ne...view/die-bulldozer.jpg <-- orochi die revision b version 2

BkattF@H does not want to support AMD processors or GPU's anyways.
So much for wanting to cure cancer when they deny people helping because they do not want to support AMD hardware, I think Nvidia is paying them off to support their hardware only. And that makes me loose faith in F@H's real goals.

You are going to see more Intel/Nvidia and Intel/Intel consumer HPCs rather than AMD/AMD(or ATi) and AMD/Nvidia HPCs.  If you want to have the most support, you would want to optimize for the majority and not the minority.

lehpronWhich real-world games scale with flops?  As it stands, even Kaveri matches the specs of HD4770, it isn't faster than my GTX260, but at least I can overclock the APU to make it that way.

All of them.  The issue isn't the flops it is the ROPs and TMUs.  To actually match your GPU it would need at least 64 TMUs and 32 ROPs.  Instead, Trinity would most likely have 24 TMUs and 8 ROPs.
 
GTX 260 -> 64 TMUs/28 ROPs/192 CC x 1.2 GHz
7660G -> 24 TMUs/8 ROPs/384 SP x .685 GHz(Possible turbo core for the GPU maybe)
 
Only in "games" would the 7730G be apparently slower than the 260.  Scientific appilications that are optimized for VLIW4/MIMD gpus would most likely maybe show the 7730G winning. (You also have memory which you would need at least 2.4/2.6+ GHz DDR3 to match...)
(DX11.1/Sub-60W TDP/Newer/Comes with a CPU <----> DX10/200+W TDP/Older/Doesn't come with a CPU)

if those numbers are true, trinity is an amazing win. Battery life on the a6 is already awesome.