ty_ger07

HenryGR
Then they need to address those issues so we get what we paid for, not less

You always get what you pay for. It's the marketing which can fool some.

MADOGRE
Time and time again it gets posted shown in reviews and people ignore the fact that most cases extra Vram does nothing if the GPU and memory bus is not strong enough to push it. The 4GB 670/680s where prime examples the 256bit memory bus was to narrow to take advantage of it. Same with the 780/780ti vs Titan the memory bus is to small  to make it worth having 6GB, and when you finally did get it to a rez where it did make a difference guess what the GPU was not strong enough for it to make it viable.

 
If what Madogre is saying is 100% true then we are not getting what we paid for ty_ger07 . This are not $200 cards .... We are talking here about $650++
 

 
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(It's the holidays. Everyone be happy, and treat each other with respect. Treat others as you would like to be treated.)

It will be appreciated now. As a "moderator" not that I think you should be one  your duty is to the EVGA community and not to attack members that are defending themselves and the community to protect little friends who start the problems. So, keep the warning to yourself. Thank you for NOTHING 

HenryGR
It will be appreciated now. As a "moderator" not that I think you should be one  your duty is to the EVGA community and not to attack members that are defending themselves and the community to protect little friends who start the problems. So, keep the warning to yourself. Thank you for NOTHING 

I don't play favorites. I don't care who they are, and I will treat the situation the way I think is best. Those members who you think are my friends may have received a warning in the past, but decided to act more mature, and be a productive member in the forums. It's time to move on, and stop derailing the thread.
 
 
Unlocking thread.

The only reason 8GB DDR5 VDRAM would be required is for running multiple 4K monitors.  There is absolutely no need for more than 4GB VDRAM in today's games, even if using 2560 x 1440 (WQHD) monitors in surround.  Also, the 880m should come with the next-gen Maxwell GPU.  The GTX750Ti is equipped with an entry level Maxwell GPU, so one can safely assume Nvidia would choose to use a Maxwell GPU variant for it's flagship mobile gaming solution.  With that being said, Nvidia will still most likely use rebadged Kepler GPUs in the 870m and 860m.  Only time will tell as all of this is speculation.

The 880m is kepler. However there are rumors and a gpu-z shot of a 860m which looks to be running maxwell. Of course take every rumor you see with a grain of salt. 

Lehpron, I consider my perspective on this subject pretty valid due to my purchases in this market. I am confident that we have no clue what that single marketing slide is referring to in terms of system memory or graphics memory. This is a huge thread about nothing.

Impressive until you see NVIDIA's Volta GPU in a couple years with 16GB+ VRAM  that has 3x the memory bandwidth of a stock GTX780Ti.

ty_ger07

boylerya
Impressive until you see NVIDIA's Volta GPU in a couple years with 16GB+ VRAM  that has 3x the memory bandwidth of a stock GTX780Ti.

As already said over and over and over again, 8GB of VRAM is NOT confirmed for the GTX 880M.  This is a single sales slide from Clevo (not even confirmed to be official or accurate) which says 8GB.  It doesn't say if it is VRAM or the laptop's System Memory.
 
Please let this thread die!....

Actually it is confirmed. Someone over at the nbr forums has a 880m from upgrademonkey and it has 8gb vram. Other than that it just has a higher clock rate than the 780m. 
 

ty_ger07 
As already said over and over and over again, 8GB of VRAM is NOT confirmed for the GTX 880M.  This is a single sales slide from Clevo (not even confirmed to be official or accurate) which says 8GB.  It doesn't say if it is VRAM or the laptop's System Memory.
Please let this thread die!....

You're literally reacting no differently than I did when I was so certain that Titan didn't exist, yet plenty of hopefuls and believers not going by any real data were vindicated when it did come-- but in their hope, no saw the high $999 MSRP coming, though oddly enough lack of competition could explain it.  
 
Except while I tend to trust information accidentally leaked from company websites more than the stuff that enthusiast websites generally make up in order to drive internet traffic, you just don't plain believe 8GB of Vram on a mobile dGPU; that isn't good enough.  
 
Let's analyze the other part of the argument, you claim we don't know if they refer to system RAM or video RAM.  Okay, looking at Clevo P570M3, it is the monster mobile workstation using the LGA2011 socket.  Sager makes NP9570 (Clevo P570M3) and among the single-dGPU options, one stands out: Nvidia Quadro K5100M Graphics with 8GB GDDR5 Video Memory. Looking up the stats on NotebookCheck.net shows that 8GB of Vram is default.
 
So effectively and in all probability, GeForce GTX880M is just a rebranded Quadro without the features that make it special; more than enough evidence for me.  For you to be in such disbelief, you may not have fully researched this despite claiming authority in having purchases in this market.  Don't limit your perspective to gamer-centric or enthusiast-centric and expect things to make sense, it never does.
 
I'd expect with the push into higher resolutions that the display on consumer systems that use 880M and beyond would be higher than 1080p.  Circumstantial evidence towards that can come from Engadget reporting Toshiba's Satellite P50T will push 2160p by mid-2014, Lenovo's Thinkpad X1 Carbon Ultrabook is going for 2560x1440, while Dell's Precision M3800 will launch with an option for 3200x1800.
 
Granted these laptops are not all high-end, but it isn't like they wouldn't use better dGPU for products marketed towards customers that have that preference.

How about a GTX880M review then
http://www.techinferno.com/2014/01/31/review-nvidia-gtx-880m/2/
 
"The card comes with an insane amount of graphics memory, a whopping 8GB of GGDR5 are packed onto the MXM 3.1b board,"

ty_ger07
Since the 880M ("M" as in "Mobile") is for a laptop, I think we can all agree that we aren't considering surround or 4K monitors and that this alleged 8GB offering is either:
1) referring to Clevo's system memory default offering for each laptop model listed
or
2) is nothing more than marketing since we all know that the laptop won't need 8GB of video memory.
 
 I hope that we will see mobile Maxwell GPUs soon so that a nice new, thin, powerful but cool-running, and battery efficient laptop will be available soon.

Just ordered a Sager NP7338 13.3" laptop (rebranded Clevo W230SS) - new model just released a day or so ago. It's got the GTX-860M in it (2GB Maxwell, soldered in place). Paired it with an i7-4810MQ and 2x8GB 1600MHz ram. The 860M is 47W, so I'm expecting improvements in temperature and performance. I may undervolt the i7 if it runs too hot.. will see how it goes.
 
The laptops using the Kepler 880M 8GB GPU will most likely be big 17-18"+ laptops that are basically desktop replacement laptops as opposed to more portable laptops. 8GB might seem overkill right now, but heck, when I got my GTX-680 FTW+ 4GB cards in my desktop, plenty of people were mocking it saying it was just e-peen, but they turned out to be dead wrong, so I wouldn't discount the 8GB too quickly just yet.
 

ssj92

ty_ger07

boylerya
Impressive until you see NVIDIA's Volta GPU in a couple years with 16GB+ VRAM  that has 3x the memory bandwidth of a stock GTX780Ti.

As already said over and over and over again, 8GB of VRAM is NOT confirmed for the GTX 880M.  This is a single sales slide from Clevo (not even confirmed to be official or accurate) which says 8GB.  It doesn't say if it is VRAM or the laptop's System Memory.
 
Please let this thread die!....

Actually it is confirmed. Someone over at the nbr forums has a 880m from upgrademonkey and it has 8gb vram. Other than that it just has a higher clock rate than the 780m. 
 

Yes, this is actually my screen shot. And I did a review on this card as well.

Yep, they were official when we got the cards back in January. They were not ES but in fact, OEM shipping samples. Although it will be interesting to see how they roll off the line. Since the first group are not fairing well as of yet.