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Been gathering a list of new parts for a new AMD build however I need advice on the 5800x vs 5900x situation. I've read a lot about how the 5800x is a poor value and that the 5900x is worth the extra 100 bucks. Is it really a bad cpu or are people exaggerating too much?
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/15 11:06:31
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the thing is, what do you seek in it ? multitreath or perfonmance? that said , 5600x is the best mainstream gaming cpu atm
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/16 16:16:46
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5950x is best
Perhaps it is, but it's not necessary for 80+% of the PC community.... I didn't need it..I just wanted it. as for the 5800 vs 5900....I'd probably opt for the 5900 simply because for a little more you get 4 more cores... the 5800 is priced oddly, imo
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/16 17:18:07
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The 5800X isn't a "bad" CPU it's just not priced terribly competitively. Same way the 5950X is priced poorly in the other direction compared to the 5900X. $250 more and only get 4 more cores or save $100 and get 4 less with the 5800X. I would have preferred the 5900X for my Ryzen build but all that I could find was a 5800X so that's what I got. It's fine, it plays games just as well as the 2 Ryzen 9 CPUs. 8 cores and 16 threads is plenty for gaming for the foreseeable future too.
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/17 11:41:33
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I've been doing a ton of research and have come to the realization that the 5900x is the best top end option.
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/17 12:57:12
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What motherboard are you dropping it into. I have been on the fence for an AMD build for a little bit. My rig is getting dated and the only upgrade I have done outside fans HDD was the GPU since my old one died. My machine is a bit mixed as I do game but I also work on it and AMD is better for my workload.
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/17 19:54:36
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I'm dropping mine into an Asrock Taichi x570 board. I had an Asus Prime x570-Pro but I swapped it for the Taichi for the BIOS flashback. It was only $30 more in the end for me (sales helped).
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/17 21:58:35
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I just started purchasing for my next build. The processor's are tough to get. Waited some weeks...and finally the MSI X570 Tomahawk Wifi came in stock and snagged one. Now going to order piece by piece. Looking for a reasonably priced case to put the build in but it has to fit a 360 mm AIO...Hardware unboxed did a full video on the merits of this board. One of the best thermal performers around.
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/18 07:24:59
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I just started purchasing for my next build. The processor's are tough to get. Waited some weeks...and finally the MSI X570 Tomahawk Wifi came in stock and snagged one. Now going to order piece by piece. Looking for a reasonably priced case to put the build in but it has to fit a 360 mm AIO...Hardware unboxed did a full video on the merits of this board. One of the best thermal performers around.
Bob, I love my Phanteks. It supports 360 rad up top. Might not be what you want but check it out.
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/18 10:07:13
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As others have said, the 5800X is just... priced terribly. $300 for 6C/12T... an extra $150 for 8C/16T is not a good value when you can get double the count of the 5600X on the 5900X for less than double the price. Plus you're only spending $100 more to get an extra 4C/8T compared to the 5800X.
As new games have better encoding for multi-threaded use; those extra cores will really get to shine.
EDIT: I personally went for the 5900X for this reason. 6/12 isn't a big enough upgrade from my 4/8 i7 6700K to justify spending the money to upgrade. Go big or go home!!
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/19 18:53:50
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As others have said, the 5800X is just... priced terribly. $300 for 6C/12T... an extra $150 for 8C/16T is not a good value when you can get double the count of the 5600X on the 5900X for less than double the price. Plus you're only spending $100 more to get an extra 4C/8T compared to the 5800X.
As new games have better encoding for multi-threaded use; those extra cores will really get to shine.
EDIT: I personally went for the 5900X for this reason. 6/12 isn't a big enough upgrade from my 4/8 i7 6700K to justify spending the money to upgrade. Go big or go home!!
Yea I started to realize I'd rather go overkill and as for the 5600x it aint gonna be much of a improvement over the 6700K in my old rig. I already have the board picked out, a ROG Strix x570-E. The board in my other build is a ROG and my god the SupremeFX is too good to skimp out on so yea gotta stick to ROG.
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/19 21:45:04
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I just started purchasing for my next build. The processor's are tough to get. Waited some weeks...and finally the MSI X570 Tomahawk Wifi came in stock and snagged one. Now going to order piece by piece. Looking for a reasonably priced case to put the build in but it has to fit a 360 mm AIO...Hardware unboxed did a full video on the merits of this board. One of the best thermal performers around.
Bob, I love my Phanteks. It supports 360 rad up top.
Might not be what you want but check it out.
Which model Phanteks? More than happy to look at some.
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2020/12/20 13:41:50
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As others have said, the 5800X is just... priced terribly. $300 for 6C/12T... an extra $150 for 8C/16T is not a good value when you can get double the count of the 5600X on the 5900X for less than double the price. Plus you're only spending $100 more to get an extra 4C/8T compared to the 5800X.
As new games have better encoding for multi-threaded use; those extra cores will really get to shine.
EDIT: I personally went for the 5900X for this reason. 6/12 isn't a big enough upgrade from my 4/8 i7 6700K to justify spending the money to upgrade. Go big or go home!!
Yea I started to realize I'd rather go overkill and as for the 5600x it aint gonna be much of a improvement over the 6700K in my old rig. I already have the board picked out, a ROG Strix x570-E. The board in my other build is a ROG and my god the SupremeFX is too good to skimp out on so yea gotta stick to ROG.
That's the exact board I'm running on now. Took me a few minutes to get re-acquainted with AMD BIOS settings compared to Intel's, but it's all up and running smoothly.
 
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2021/01/13 06:08:49
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I've had both but ended up returning 5800x and keeping 5900x. They have very identical/equal gaming performance in my tests but 5900x obviously shines more on doing multi-threaded workload. I also noticed the 5900x runs from 6 - 9C cooler when pushed (both using 240mm AIO with PBO on). The 5900x is worth the premium over 5800x IMO.
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Re: 5800x vs 5900x
2021/01/13 06:48:42
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Read and watched numerous reviews. Everyone pretty much agreed that the 5800X was a great chip. Everyone thought priced about $50 too much...thus making a $100 jump for 4 more cores made the 5900X THE chip to get. Waited in line about an hour and a half to get the 5950X. The guy in front of me got the last 5900X. Don't regret the 5950X at all. The entire Ryzen 5000 series CPU's are incredible.
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