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Hi. I test my Gtx 1080 ti on all benchmarks , scores are fine. But on fire strike test not passed. BUM screen: Temps are normal 83-84 during test. I dont oc card, all is stock.Help. RMA card?
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 09:31:55
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You need to provide some more info for anyone to help you out, one post the link to that score so we can see what computer hardware you have and also post your hardware. Looks like you are not setting the fan on your card as well when benchmarking, set it 90% I think you are the first one to ever post about the Fire Strike Stress Test, I have never even ran it. I would say you have no cause for an RMA as we base passing on Benchmarks and not Stress Testing. It could be your CPU your Memory Your Motherboard Your Power Supply a Heating Issues and so on.  You also need to update as shown on your image. What software do you have running in the background? Are you playing with the Mouse or KB while this Test is Running?
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 09:37:57
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The first thing I would do would be to update the application. Since it is a new product it probably needs the updated system info application installed. Good luck.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 09:41:27
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In games temps are 82-83C. Good stable clocks. No crashing. Only stress test not passing in 3dmark. Any ideas? But i have found some link review and on their review sample their card not passing too. Look: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/103423-inno3d-ichill-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-x3/?page=4 The stage is set and we expect the Inno3D card to top every gaming benchmark on the pages to come. A key reason for that is the cooler's ability to maintain stable framerates for an extended period of time - whereas the 1080 Ti Founders Edition failed the Time Spy Stress Test, the Inno3D X3 passes with a solid 98.6 per cent rating. So its not only me on Founder Edition card.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 10:50:43
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You should set a Fan Curve. Users are Overclocking the GPU to high and Overclocking the GPU Memory and really do not need to and they Overclock the Memory to high as well. You need to provide links to your 3DMark Scores and what hardware you are running under, Show Me The Money. My cards run all the 3DMark Benchmarks just fine. GTX 1080Ti Graphics Cards SLI Setup. http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1419103 Time Spy 14,479 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073772 Fire Strike 26,020 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073923 Fire Strike Extreme 20,645 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073957 Fire Strike Ultra 13,121 http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4590983 Sky Diver 44,340 http://www.3dmark.com/cg/3973146 Cloud Gate 38,214 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111219 Ice Storm 183,526 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111237 Ice Storm Extreme 179,538 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111242 Ice Storm Unlimited 178,174 3DMark11 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12068531 3DMark 11 Performance P29,610 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12068561 3DMark 11 Extreme X20,760 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12068628 3DMark 11 Entry E27,587
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 10:54:50
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sew282 Hi. I test my Gtx 1080 ti on all benchmarks , scores are fine. But on fire strike test not passed. BUM screen: Temps are normal 83-84 during test. I dont oc card, all is stock.Help. RMA card?

It means the average FPS across the 20 loops degrades more than 3% from the highest result. In other words, due to the clocks decreasing after the GPU warms up after the first pass, your FPS declines. If you set a custom fan curve to keep the temps slightly lower, you should pass.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:14:49
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But if this is doing on stock settings ,exchange card to another example? Or not? I buy card few days ago.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:20:12
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sew282 But if this is doing on stock settings ,exchange card to another example? Or not? I buy card few days ago.
The framerate stability test is something fairly new from 3DMark. It's not indicitive of actual GPU problems with a stock cooler because the stock coolers with stock fan profiles WILL automatically lower GPU clockspeed to maintain 84C max temperatures while keeping the fan speeds low for aural comfort. I like quiet air coolers, but I like good cooling - aftermarket cooling solutions from AIB partners are my choice unless I watercool. Crank up the fan speed and watch it pass.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:21:52
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Maybe it is because of high temps? 83-84C during fire strike stress. It is not too high or normal?
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:33:41
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sew282 Maybe it is because of high temps? 83-84C during fire strike stress. It is not too high or normal?
I gave you the answer from the developer. It is because the GPU throttles due to temperature during the run reducing the clocks thus the FPS. This is entirely normal. Those temps are within the normal range for the GPU depending upon other factors like ambient temps and case air flow for example. If you want a different temperature profile, either create one manually, or buy a different model. But the one you have, is operating normally.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:42:04
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OK. So why in reviews there are some samples when they passing test? 1080 ti reference founders too.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:45:23
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sew282 OK. So why in reviews there are some samples when they passing test? 1080 ti reference founders too.
Because they run them in different cases or on a open bench or in a cooler room. I've never seen any review run this test. Can you point one out?
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:46:29
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sew282 OK. So why in reviews there are some samples when they passing test? 1080 ti reference founders too.
Different airflow in the case, open air test beds, cooler ambient temperatures, different silicon qualities on the GPU dies (normal for any run of GPUs, less voltage leakage = less voltage needed = lower GPU temperatures, hence the term "silicon lottery") among a myriad of other little details that change from one personal computer to the next.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:46:53
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I have found read: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/103213-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-16nm-pascal/?page=5 There's a little more GFLOPS horsepower on the GTX 1080 Ti, and appreciating this benchmark is more compute bound, the GTX 1080 Ti wins out. However, what's disturbing is the stability test. The Titan X has a fair bit of variability while the GTX 1080 Ti still fails the 97 per cent threshold. Why? Both cards start off boosting up to 1,700MHz but then scale back to 1,500MHz on Titan X and 1,600MHz on GTX 1080 Ti once the temperature hits 83°C. In other words, the cooling holds the underlying GPU back. We'll cover more of this in the temperature section. So no reason to rma card?
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:49:36
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sew282 I have found read:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/103213-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-16nm-pascal/?page=5 There's a little more GFLOPS horsepower on the GTX 1080 Ti, and appreciating this benchmark is more compute bound, the GTX 1080 Ti wins out. However, what's disturbing is the stability test. The Titan X has a fair bit of variability while the GTX 1080 Ti still fails the 97 per cent threshold. Why? Both cards start off boosting up to 1,700MHz but then scale back to 1,500MHz on Titan X and 1,600MHz on GTX 1080 Ti once the temperature hits 83°C. In other words, the cooling holds the underlying GPU back. We'll cover more of this in the temperature section. So no reason to rma card?
Exactly what we explained to you and what the developer of 3DMark says. 3DMark's test is arbitrary and isn't based on any 'failure' mode. It is more a test of the cooling solution. You have no warranty reason to RMA.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:51:35
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sew282 I have found read:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/103213-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-16nm-pascal/?page=5 There's a little more GFLOPS horsepower on the GTX 1080 Ti, and appreciating this benchmark is more compute bound, the GTX 1080 Ti wins out. However, what's disturbing is the stability test. The Titan X has a fair bit of variability while the GTX 1080 Ti still fails the 97 per cent threshold. Why? Both cards start off boosting up to 1,700MHz but then scale back to 1,500MHz on Titan X and 1,600MHz on GTX 1080 Ti once the temperature hits 83°C. In other words, the cooling holds the underlying GPU back. We'll cover more of this in the temperature section. So no reason to rma card?
Welcome to Nvidia's GPU Boost 3.0! If it bothers you, you can put it under a custom water loop or an AIO cooler as a cheaper alternative. I use the Kraken G10 bracket with a Kraken X41 AIO cooler (X42 is the latest). It works amazing - on my old 980 Ti cards both saw 42C max temps, and on my 1080 ACX 3.0 base model (upgrading to iCX then stepping up to a base model 1080 Ti - which will work as well, might have to remove the back or mid-plates to get everything attached correctly) the temps max out at 35C with its lower power usage.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:52:38
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:56:06
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But somebody said this to me:"Ouch, that's some bad luck - hopefully they have stock available wherever you bought from to fulfill the RMA.  " Listen to him?
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 11:58:31
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You can try to RMA, but 84C max is what the card is designed to do with the stock cooler and a stock fan profile. Seriously, download Precision X or MSI Afterburner and set the fan speed a 100% and see for yourself. Try 75%, 50% - see the difference. Then set a custom fan curve - when I had a stock blower card, I set the fans at 75C = 100% fan speed, 60C was 60%. It's loud, but with headphones on it isn't bad.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 12:03:17
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Did you make sure G-Sync was off?
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 12:06:15
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Nah my monitor is 1GB2488HSU without GSYNCS.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 12:28:47
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bcavnaugh You should set a Fan Curve. Users are Overclocking the GPU to high and Overclocking the GPU Memory and really do not need to and they Overclock the Memory to high as well. You need to provide links to your 3DMark Scores and what hardware you are running under, Show Me The Money. My cards run all the 3DMark Benchmarks just fine. GTX 1080Ti Graphics Cards SLI Setup. http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1419103 Time Spy 14,479 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073772 Fire Strike 26,020 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073923 Fire Strike Extreme 20,645 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073957 Fire Strike Ultra 13,121 http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4590983 Sky Diver 44,340 http://www.3dmark.com/cg/3973146 Cloud Gate 38,214 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111219 Ice Storm 183,526 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111237 Ice Storm Extreme 179,538 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111242 Ice Storm Unlimited 178,174
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I get wanting to see how good of a card you have, which is where the benchmarking and overclocking come in, but you bring up a very valid point. I have 2 1080 TI FE's in SLI, and yeah, I can OC them to +175 and get close to 2100 mhz, but when Running with vsync or in my case gsync, that doesn't net me any extra frames in games often. Even in Witcher 3, if I leave it OC'd, in tracking for over an hour running around, on ultra with hairworks at max, the difference was negligible. less than 1-2 FPS on average of that whole time. I have found with these, and the "micro-throttling" they do, having it at a lower temp and default clock gives me much less variability in game to framerates, more so since I am capped at 144 anyway. The OC and benchmarking, FOR NOW, is only good to see max potential for me, not everyday use.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 12:52:49
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Just worried. SOmebody said:"For reference, my 1080Ti SLI scored 97.5%". So he passed on reference. I not.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 13:13:00
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bcavnaugh You should set a Fan Curve. Users are Overclocking the GPU to high and Overclocking the GPU Memory and really do not need to and they Overclock the Memory to high as well. You need to provide links to your 3DMark Scores and what hardware you are running under, Show Me The Money. My cards run all the 3DMark Benchmarks just fine. GTX 1080Ti Graphics Cards SLI Setup. http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1419103 Time Spy 14,479 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073772 Fire Strike 26,020 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073923 Fire Strike Extreme 20,645 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12073957 Fire Strike Ultra 13,121 http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4590983 Sky Diver 44,340 http://www.3dmark.com/cg/3973146 Cloud Gate 38,214 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111219 Ice Storm 183,526 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111237 Ice Storm Extreme 179,538 http://www.3dmark.com/is/4111242 Ice Storm Unlimited 178,174
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I get wanting to see how good of a card you have, which is where the benchmarking and overclocking come in, but you bring up a very valid point. I have 2 1080 TI FE's in SLI, and yeah, I can OC them to +175 and get close to 2100 mhz, but when Running with vsync or in my case gsync, that doesn't net me any extra frames in games often. Even in Witcher 3, if I leave it OC'd, in tracking for over an hour running around, on ultra with hairworks at max, the difference was negligible. less than 1-2 FPS on average of that whole time. I have found with these, and the "micro-throttling" they do, having it at a lower temp and default clock gives me much less variability in game to framerates, more so since I am capped at 144 anyway. The OC and benchmarking, FOR NOW, is only good to see max potential for me, not everyday use.
Yes I know what you mean. This is only a ground to start at and nothing more at least in my Book. The next testing comes with Folding and BOINC GPU Projects like GPUGRID. Now with the Overclocking that you have Benched on goes out the Window. Now time to Disable SLI and Really See what your Cards a are made of. I will overclock and bump it up x 10 running Collatz Conjecture a BOINC GPU Project. Once I have this Project down I will move over to Einstein @ Home as it can really Kill your cards if overclocked to high. Once Einstein @ Home is running stable I then run a few SETI @ home GPU tasks and then last one of the hardest application to use a GPU GPUGRID. GPUGRID is the hardest Program I know that can really Burn-in your Graphics Card. Once Stable running a Task after 8-12 Hours then it on to Folding. Folding @ Home is another GPU Application that needs a VERY Stable Graphics Card. When you Fail Here, then you have lost a Task or what we call a WU that cannot be run by any one else so you need to make sure you are very Stable with you Overclock you set your Graphics Cards to run at. My 5 Cents worth. 10% Gaming 80% Finding the Cure (Medicine/Biology/Chemistry) 10% Fun (Astrophysics(Space)/Mathematic(Primes)/Physics)
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/22 19:17:07
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I agree with everyone else. Run the fan at max speed and you'll pass without any issues.
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Re: 3dmark Fire strike test - 1080 Ti - not passed
2017/03/23 08:02:49
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FYI: OP trolls the internet with posts about non-issues. Going by his history he has RMA'd at least a dozen 980 Ti, if he were to be believed.
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