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2021/06/24 01:16:01 (permalink)
Hey,
Im waiting to the card arrival next week..
But i keep seeing reviews/posts of people say that the card crush while gaming with 750w psu..and the card taking 450w+..
Do i need to be worry?the recommended psu is 750w according to the product page..

And what do i need to expect in therms of temps and noise (stock..no oc for now)..coming from 3080 aorus extreme that was not silent..but acceptable..

Thanks!
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 01:55:49 (permalink)
    I think the recommendations are always 'minimum recommended power supply', so it won't run on anything lower but the same or higher should be fine. Depending on your other hardware, you might need a bigger PSU.
     
    I read a good way to gauge what PSU you need is to add all your hardware to something like the pcpartpicker website, where it estimates total wattage, and then times that by 1.5 to get the PSU size you need.
     
    e.g. if pcpartpicker says 500W then 500 * 1.5 = 750
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 03:15:07 (permalink)
    Thanks,
    I got 604w (9700kf)..why is the x1.5 for?its not supposed to be accurate?

    Is turning of the card RGB should help a little?(i dont care about that...)
    post edited by Amit14 - 2021/06/24 03:16:23
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 03:57:33 (permalink)
    I'd say it depends on the rest of your hardware and the use of it.
     
    This is a chart of power consumption for the 3080 Ti FTW3:
     

     
    Spikes of power are 531W on furmark test and 452W while gaming. While gaming the CPU shouldn't run at 100% but it might do it briefly. How much power consume your CPU at 100% load?
     
    You can also undervolt and limit frame rate to keep the GPU cool and consume less power. I'm on the queue for a 3080 Ti and I also have a 750W PSU. I'll give it a shot and see how it works, but I think it should be fine by undervolting both the GPU and CPU

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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 04:16:36 (permalink)
    Thank you!
    450-530w is unbelievable!is it the normal or oc bios?
    And if that so..why is the recommended psu is 750w?you dont need to undervolt the card in order to use it with the recommended spec...
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 04:44:12 (permalink)
    Stock vBIOS. That's a chart from techpowerup's review and they didn't say anything about a custom or oc bios on the review so I'm assuming the review is on stock bios.
     
    Well... How's EVGA going to know what's the rest of your hardware? the 750W recommendation is a rough estimate.
     
    Probably EVGA calculated something like: 530W (max on GPU) + 120 W for CPU + 100 W (for MB, RAM, etc) = 750 W
     
    You might have a cryo cooler or some crazy hardware that sucks a lot of power and there is no way EVGA is going to know.

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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 04:52:07 (permalink)
    Thanks.
    On the card there is a physical switch-normal bios or oc bios ..so if the normal one draws 530..how much does the oc one draws??
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 04:54:31 (permalink)
    Our minimum recommended power is typically going to be the same as NVIDIA's recommended power supply.  On the specs page on GeForce.com, NVIDIA usually lists what the system configuration was tested with when they determined the minimum power requirements, and you can compare that to your system.
     
    For example, go here to find the 3080 Ti, and you'll find NVIDIA's configuration is: "Requirement is made based on PC configured with an Intel Core i9-10900K processor. A lower power rating may work depending on system configuration."
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 05:07:32 (permalink)
    Amit14
    Thanks.
    On the card there is a physical switch-normal bios or oc bios ..so if the normal one draws 530..how much does the oc one draws??



    As far as I know that switch only affects the fan table and not the actual power limit of the GPU so it should draw the same power.
     
    EVGATech_LeeM
    Our minimum recommended power is typically going to be the same as NVIDIA's recommended power supply.  On the specs page on GeForce.com, NVIDIA usually lists what the system configuration was tested with when they determined the minimum power requirements, and you can compare that to your system.
     
    For example, go here to find the 3080 Ti, and you'll find NVIDIA's configuration is: "Requirement is made based on PC configured with an Intel Core i9-10900K processor. A lower power rating may work depending on system configuration."




    Interesting. Although the FE 3080 Ti has a peak power a lot lower of 412W vs 531 and at gaming the FE consumes a max power of 352W vs 452W for the FTW3:
     

     


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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 05:15:06 (permalink)
    750 gold is fine....  personally i don't buy anything less than 1000w tho.


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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 05:49:26 (permalink)
    A PSU is most efficient at 50% load, even then some of its output will be lost to heat.  80+ Gold means the PSU is rated for 80%+ efficiency, and Gold should be around 87% efficient at least, so that would mean a 750W Gold PSU can support up to ~652W of actual consumption.  In a stock system - no overclocking, messing with power limits - the 750W recommendation will work.  Just realize you don't have a lot of headroom if any.
     
    I'd personally recommend looking for at least a 1000W PSU if building a new system with high end GPUs and CPUs in mind today...  but keeping in mind the 50% is the sweet spot, 1200-1300W PSUs might be closer to the mark for ultimate efficiency.  Pick a single rail PSU over multi rail.
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 06:10:07 (permalink)
    Amit14
    Thanks,
    I got 604w (9700kf)..why is the x1.5 for?its not supposed to be accurate?

    Is turning of the card RGB should help a little?(i dont care about that...)



    Sorry, I'm not sure why you multiply by 1.5. I saw that mentioned in a couple of guides and took it for granted. After reading some of the other comments in this thread it looks like it isn't as simple as I mentioned! 😁
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 06:27:32 (permalink)
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    A PSU is most efficient at 50% load, even then some of its output will be lost to heat.  80+ Gold means the PSU is rated for 80%+ efficiency, and Gold should be around 87% efficient at least, so that would mean a 750W Gold PSU can support up to ~652W of actual consumption.  In a stock system - no overclocking, messing with power limits - the 750W recommendation will work.  Just realize you don't have a lot of headroom if any.
     
    I'd personally recommend looking for at least a 1000W PSU if building a new system with high end GPUs and CPUs in mind today...  but keeping in mind the 50% is the sweet spot, 1200-1300W PSUs might be closer to the mark for ultimate efficiency.  Pick a single rail PSU over multi rail.




    This is partially truth. The power efficiency is output_power/input_power, but the output power is actually 750W DC, so when the power efficiency is lets say 80% on a PSU that means the output power is 750 W DC and the input power is 937,5 W AC
     
    For example my PSU at 100% load delivers 749,38 W DC and draws from the wall 844.02 W AC. which means a power efficiency of 88.79% which is aprox 89% power efficiency which is the rated efficiency for a platinum rated PSU

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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 06:40:00 (permalink)
    Thanks for the explanation!
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 06:42:53 (permalink)
    So, if things wont work well with my 750w..
    Is the Corsair gold rm1000x s ok?or should i go for antec signature platinum 1000w ?(around 30 bucks diff)
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 06:50:25 (permalink)
    Not enough power for 3080ti
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 06:52:32 (permalink)
    I recommend a power supply of 1000w or more. I think that it works stably even at 850W depending on the CPU.
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 06:56:13 (permalink)
    750w is more than enough for normal use, unless you OC the hell out of your cpu. Most people overestimate the wattage on a PSU. There were people running the kingpin 3090 on 700w just fine. Your overclocking headroom is lower, but in normal gaming use you will be more than fine with 750w. Just make sure you have at least a gold rated.
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 07:06:14 (permalink)
    hfine78
    750w is more than enough for normal use, unless you OC the hell out of your cpu. Most people overestimate the wattage on a PSU. There were people running the kingpin 3090 on 700w just fine. Your overclocking headroom is lower, but in normal gaming use you will be more than fine with 750w. Just make sure you have at least a gold rated.


    So how does it get with the review saying it takes over 450w while gaming?
    It sounds like this model is very very power hungry compared to other models..even compared to some 3090 models..
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 09:16:15 (permalink)
    I am using a corsair RM750 on my 3080ti and played the entirety of Control with 420w average draw while gaming and 459w peak from my card, no issues and no crashes.  I am running a Ryzen though and they don't draw much power, so YMMV depending on CPU / overclocking.
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    Re: 3080 ti ftw3 and 750w gold psu 2021/06/24 09:35:54 (permalink)
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    This is partially truth. The power efficiency is output_power/input_power, but the output power is actually 750W DC, so when the power efficiency is lets say 80% on a PSU that means the output power is 750 W DC and the input power is 937,5 W AC




    Thanks - looks like I misunderstood how PSUs are rated, so efficiency affects wall draw and PSUs can always output what they're rated for.
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