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2021/07/06 14:41:00 (permalink)
Recently upgraded to a 3080 TI FTW3
CPU: Ryzen 5900x
Mobo: MSI MPG Gaming Edge b550
PSU: EVGA 850W G2 80+ gold (using separate 3 VGA/PCIE connectors on the PSU to power the GPU)
 
Under load, Wi-Fi starts to fail then the PC will BSOD or just black screen and crash. I thought that 850W would be enough based on EVGA's power meter recommendations. After some research I've found that this is likely due to transient power spikes common in the RTX 30 cards. I've tried setting power limits to as low as 50% on the card with no increase in stability. I'm just posting to see if there's something I could be missing before I go ahead and get a new PSU.
 
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I tried a Seasonic Focus GX 1000w PSU and I still ran into the same issues. I realized after some tests and research that the GPU crashes due to voltage spikes (Or at least the crashes coincide with these spikes). I can get it relatively stable by setting the voltage curve and limiting it to .925V at 1750Mhz. It's stable but an unacceptable performance penalty. It seems like anything above .95 is not very stable. (This is the same with both PSUs). I think there is an issue with the card, but I'll try a few more things including disabling the wifi from the BIOS to see if that does anything. I could have resolved this sooner if I had another PC to test. I'm going to a friends place later this week to test out the GPU in his machine. Thanks for the advice everyone! 
Thanks for the advice everyone!
 
PS: I am not using cables from different power supplies. I've seen a couple people advising me against it. Thanks for the warning, but I'm not sure what I said to make people think I was doing this. I'm definitely not : )
 
Edit: I think I was able to figure out the issue. I started getting these motherboard USB overcurrent protection warnings when booting up my PC. It would happen every once in a while. I looked around the USB ports on the case and motherboard as well as the headers on the motherboard for damage that may be causing a short. After enough frustration I eventually decided to test everything outside of the case. I attached everything outside of the case and used the original PSU and all of a sudden, no crashes! I realized it had to be something with the case (or the RGB from the AIO since I left it unplugged for this test). I checked to make sure the standoffs were the correct positions. And carefully placed the motherboard back into the case, but only plugged in the power switch/reset/led pins. The PC still seems stable with the GPU at stock settings. Over the course of the next few days I'm going to test the case USB as well as the RGB to see what it is causing that's causing the issue. I'll have an update soon. Fingers crossed! Very happy I don't have to RMA GPU.
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    DBaer8
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/06 15:39:13 (permalink)
    I have not had any issues with my 3080 FTW3 Ultra so far but I am a strong believer in using a PSU that provides at least 50% more power than I will ever need. My rig has an AX1200i and my GPU uses three separate power cables. 
    DON'T SKIMP ON YOUR PSU. Higher capability in a PSU does not increase your frame rates Etc but is sure gives you better reliability. 
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/06 16:37:30 (permalink)
    Thanks. I wouldn't say I skimped out on the PSU. I continued to use what was otherwise a good quality PSU that's still under warranty and above the recommended power output. Plenty of people have had no trouble with 850W and in some cases less with similar specs. I'm just posting to see if there is more I can do to verify that the issue is the PSU not being able to  accommodate the GPU and not that the GPU or PSU is just faulty or possibly some other issue.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/06 17:29:07 (permalink)
    I had persistent hard crash instant reboot issues on my 1080 TI and it was the power supply.
     
    Make sure you use the ribbons that come with your new PSU.... i reused silverstonetek ribbons with a replacement corsair PSU and it fried a SSD.  Never even heard of that before but apparently its a thing.

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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/06 18:30:40 (permalink)
    Absolutely NEVER use other brand replacement cables for most PSUs, use only the  ones that came with your specific PSU or replacement ones for your specific PSU from the manufacturer. Not even cables that come from the same company for a different model unless recommended by the manufacturer. In fact most PSU companies will tell you that in the manual.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/07 08:25:37 (permalink)
    Steam Summer Sale is selling 3dMark for $4.50. I was able to get ahold of a 6700xt and, while it 'benchmarked' just fine (I got a result) it immediately started failing under the 3dMark 'Stress' Testing. What I really liked about the stress test results is the wide array of information it provides - temps too. If you can, stress-test using your current card and another one in the same PCIe slot to make sure its not your PCIe lane failing. I figure 3dMark is a cheap investment in troubleshooting these expensive GPU's. 
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/07 08:36:24 (permalink)
    My 3080ti runs fine with the power limit maxed / and oc'd on a corsair rm750 (750 gold).  Not saying it isn't your PSU, but I am saying the wattage should be able to handle it.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/07 08:54:50 (permalink)
    I would say is not the PSU issue, 3080 ftw3 only requires 750w PSU as listed in the spec, and I don't see is the CPU issue, so down to the board, b550 is not top of line board for running 5900x and 3080, so for me, I will check there is any bios update and make sure enable CSM, or try to card in another system. but as hardware unbox already has some compare board to board on how the effect on the CPU and gpu, I really think is the board holding you back on that BSOD.
    post edited by slaander - 2021/07/07 09:13:17



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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/07 09:20:15 (permalink)
    you should not mix modular cables with different powers supply's if you do bad things will happen.

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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/07 12:56:10 (permalink)
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    you should not mix modular cables with different powers supply's if you do bad things will happen.



    100% agree - I had a build not work because of this, mixed up an old Corsair modular PSU cable with an EVGA modular cable by accident and, even though the cable /fit/ into the slots, it absolutely did not work. Thankfully no damage. 
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/08 20:05:27 (permalink)
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     b550 is not top of line board for running 5900x and 3080



    Are you saying the board isn't able to supply enough power or that the pcie lanes is being saturated or something? I don't think that's the case unless the board is defective. There are plenty of b550 builds with 3080/3090s. I'm not saying it can't be an issue with the board but I imagine the issue would be a defective board not that the board isn't high end enough. Luckily a friend is letting me borrow their PSU to test.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/09 04:27:16 (permalink)
    Pretty sure you can just look at your GPU wattage in HWi or GPU-Z and see if that's causing the problem.  If your wifi is failing then it's probably your psu though, I've seen people say 750w is enough and I've seen people say they had crashes with 850w.  I for one do not like having just enough and some would say I go overkill with my psu but it avoids issues like this.
     
    Amazon has a good return policy so you could always get a new psu with more wattage to test it out as well and see if that fixes the problem if not and it's something else you could return it iirc.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/10 09:22:24 (permalink)
    Ryzen 5900x, 3080ti ftw3, B550 Gaming carbon with Evga G3 750w PSU
    runs fine for me, however, i dont use the wifi onboard and disabled them from the bios.
    I kept the 750w because I have had it and it's been reliable. (will upgrade my psu when price are better :x)
     
    I thought the reason ftw3 require 3rd 8pin is to help ease the power draw.
     
    maybe try unplug every cable including the 24pin, and reconnect those, make sure they are properly seated.
    can also try update driver for the onboard intel wifi.
    post edited by andyliumd - 2021/07/10 09:31:19

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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/10 13:03:42 (permalink)
    The 850 G2 should be fine for your setup, could be a bad card. 
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/13 10:04:01 (permalink)
    andyliumd
    Ryzen 5900x, 3080ti ftw3, B550 Gaming carbon with Evga G3 750w PSU
    runs fine for me, however, i dont use the wifi onboard and disabled them from the bios.
    I kept the 750w because I have had it and it's been reliable. (will upgrade my psu when price are better :x)
     
    I thought the reason ftw3 require 3rd 8pin is to help ease the power draw.
     
    maybe try unplug every cable including the 24pin, and reconnect those, make sure they are properly seated.
    can also try update driver for the onboard intel wifi.


    I tried a Seasonic Focus GX 1000w PSU and I still ran into the same issues. I realized after some tests and research that the GPU crashes due to voltage spikes (Or at least the crashes coincide with these spikes). I can get it relatively stable by setting the voltage curve and limiting it to .925V at 1750Mhz. It's stable but an unacceptable performance penalty. It seems like anything above .95 is not very stable. (This is the same with both PSUs). I think there is an issue with the card, but I'll try a few more things including disabling the wifi from the BIOS to see if that does anything. I could have resolved this sooner if I had another PC to test. I'm going to a friends place later this week to test out the GPU in his machine.
    post edited by Ayman250 - 2021/07/13 10:05:14
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/14 03:05:44 (permalink)
    A +850 gold should do, weird.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/20 10:53:33 (permalink)
    This makes me nervous to run my 3080ti ftw3 with the 750w gold that came in the bundle, but maybe I'll just wait until there's a hiccup to buy a new psu
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/20 11:20:59 (permalink)
    I've been under the burdens of power.  A PSU actually will run over its mark before failing.  Not something to continue to do repeatedly obviously.  For example a 750 can probably get to 800 and maintain it with risks.  When a PSU fails though, your whole machine will likely take the hit and you'll never see that BSOD.

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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/20 11:23:55 (permalink)
    Just read your edit.  USB was something I had trouble with when I first built my machine as well.  Ended up being something with my keyboard I was testing with during the build phase of my computer.  Most of the time I wouldn't even get to a load screen (black screen).  Weird thing is that the keyboard works just fine on the machine now.  No telling what I was running into during my build...
     

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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/07/21 09:58:57 (permalink)
    Turns out it wasn't the PSU as far as I can tell. So no need to worry. I know there are issues with some PSUs handling the 3080 TI even at 850W but for me it isn't an issue.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 05:45:02 (permalink)
    Mine turns the pc completely of under gaming load
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 16:09:02 (permalink)
    Use MSI afterburner and lower the clock speed(-100)a little and see if it stabilizes.   If that works put it back where it was and raise the Voltage limit and see if that fixes it.  If it still crashes but is stable at a lower clock speed best thing i can tell you is leave it underclocked a little.
    post edited by ryo0hki0 - 2021/09/20 16:12:17
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 16:15:49 (permalink)
    with the bundle...   that wasn't perchance a "newegg" bundle was it?  Make sure you didn't end up with the leftovers and its not one of the models that have issues.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 16:33:32 (permalink)
    Straight from EVGA
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 16:39:37 (permalink)
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    Straight from EVGA

    If its completely shutting off during load, that sounds like CPU overheating.  Find you some software to check your temps at idle and while playing a game.  With all the safeties in place, if the CPU reaches a certain point the whole thing will shut itself off. Make sure your cpu fan is working, and in a instance of overheating you may have to repaste the cooler or blow out any dust that may be built-up on the cpu cooler.
     
    Its either that or your using a Power supply that can't handle the load. 
     
     
    post edited by ryo0hki0 - 2021/09/20 16:41:21
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 16:43:25 (permalink)
    I run a new 850w evga gold psu.
    My ftw3 3080 runs just fine it's when I put my ftw3 3080ti in that it turns off.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 16:54:22 (permalink)
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    I run a new 850w evga gold psu.
    My ftw3 3080 runs just fine it's when I put my ftw3 3080ti in that it turns off.

    I'm guessing a 3080 vs 3080 ti driver is the same driver.  But it is a different card.  still could be heat of the card itself.  run something like gpu-z and check what the temps get at while gaming.
     
    Only other thing I can think of is underclocking a bit and see if it stabiles.  I'm pretty sure the power requirements didn't change that much between the 3080 and 3080ti.
     
    If its not overheating, and underclocking doesn't stabilize it, its time for RMA
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 17:04:44 (permalink)
    I will definitely do that and thank you so much for your help and input. Sad story I know the ti isn't a big uptick @1440p but I was lucky enough to get them from the que
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 17:05:21 (permalink)
    Tcosby5t
    I run a new 850w evga gold psu.
    My ftw3 3080 runs just fine it's when I put my ftw3 3080ti in that it turns off.



    I've got a 1300w Seasonic Prime Gold that was totally fine on a 3080 FTW3 at 450w sustained, but would go into protect shut off on a 3080 Ti FTW3.  IMHO they pull power differently.
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    Re: 3080 TI FTW3 Crashing under load. Need a new PSU? 2021/09/20 17:10:13 (permalink)
    I built a rig for my friend with the same psu and ftw3 3080ti no problems at all. Basically an identical build
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