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2021/06/29 21:24:44 (permalink)
So I have some findings to share with playing around with the Precision X1
 
I tried using the After Burner program and followed through the instructions carefully and the bench marking or game would just crash and at any settings it simply would not provide a stable platform.
 
So I tried The EVGA Precision X1 program instead. Here are the results and I found it was far easier and much better to use to start with.
 
Bench mark program used : Superposition ( 4 k optimized test )
System monitor : Tech power GPu-Z
 
The only settings I moved was the power slide bar to the described settings and the fan setting from default auto to 75%. I picked 75% just to show a consistent fan flow that was more effective for cooling.
 
Things to keep in mind, this is strictly using this one bench mark and the results fluctuate slightly and I have reflected those in the posted results. Lower resolution will produce much higher numbers than what I am posting. The core clock seems to stay at its fastest speeds with no fluctuation at lower resolutions.  Again this test was at 4 k resolutions. Plus keep in mind the so called Silicon lottery may play a factor and may produce different results for others.
 
More details and comments further down in notes.
 
Default settings : 100%
FPS avg: 122
Core clock: 1845 – 1900 MHz
Voltage: 1.02
GPU board draw Watts: 397 - 401
Default auto fan ran at 63%:  79c – 81c
Temp idle default: 42
 
Notes:
Factory settings default, runs hot, it throws a lot heat out and around.
 
Settings : 85%
FPS avg: 119
Core clock: 1785-1815 MHz
Voltage: .95
GPU board draw Watts: 338 - 341
Default auto fan ran at 56%: 74c
Temp Load Fan set 75% : 69c
Temp idle default: 42c 
Temp idle 75% fan:  27c
 
Notes:
Performance hit is very slight in the fps category, mild lowering of the heat. Still throwing very warm air
 
Settings : 75%
FPS avg: 115
Core clock: 1720-1740 MHz
Voltage: .91
GPU board draw Watts: 295 - 300
Default auto fan ran at 46%: 71c
Temp Load Fan set 75% : 64c
Temp idle default: 42c 
Temp idle fan set 75%:  27c
 
Notes:
Improved temperatures, still throwing some warm air, slight change in fps from previous setting. Core clock dropping more noticeable.
 
Settings : 70%
FPS avg: 113
Core clock: 1680-1725  MHz
Voltage: .88
GPU board draw Watts: 276 - 281
Temp Load auto fan default 37%:  68c
Temp Load Fan 75% : 59c
Temp idle default: 42c
Temp idle 75% fan:  27c
 
Notes:
 If the fan is set at 75%, a little bit of warm air is thrown. Very slight change in fps from previous set. Core clock shows slight change. Wattage usage drops a bit.
 
Settings : 60%
FPS avg: 106
Core clock: 1545 – 1625 MHz
Voltage: .82
GPU board draw Watts: 237 - 240
Temp Load auto fan default 39%:  64c
Temp Load Fan 75% : 55c
Temp idle default: 42
Temp idle 75% fan:  27c
 
Notes:
Compared to default settings significant drop in wattage usage, FPS drop is more noticeable for numbers from previous setting.  Cooling is significant, no heat comes from the fans and card.  
 
  Final Comments
  • The bench marking seem to have little fluctuating in the numbers when it ran each setting. It would bounce a little up and down but was more or less consistent. Compared to playing actual games, especially at 100% the numbers ranged all over the place for the core clock speeds. I would see anywhere from 1500 MHz to 1920 MHz. I suspect it’s the programming side of the card constantly adjusting the settings as the demand requires.
  • Fan speed settings although I ran these numbers with a set fan speed 75% I found the fans to be noticeably different at these settings. 80% setting you noticeably hear the fan dropping it down to 75% you can hear the fan with slightly reduced sound. If you dropped it down to 72% it seems to run at a decent sound level and still produce a good solid air cooling effect. Once you do 70% and lower to 65% the fan is hardly heard.
  •  I run my settings at 60 % for the power level this greatly reduces the wattage and I have found it produces  the key things I am looking for. Much lower wattage, lower heat and still preforms. All my games are at ultra settings at 4 k settings. At the price of 16 fps on average, If I want more I can easily put it up a notch but so far I haven’t seen any real need to. With the 60 % power settings I run my fans at 65% seems to be all it needs and it will sit at 51c to 55c under a load.
  • One really interesting item to note, even with the 60 % setting in Precision X1, I found various games would have the card produce the core clock numbers at max capabilities so I often see 1850 to 1920 MHz consistently with greatly reduced wattage. I really haven’t seen any performance issues in any of the games I load up with this setting and the FPS at 4 k is still decent. The cards programming really seems to adjust things very well even when the wattage is capped. 
  • Not sure if I like the DLSS option in some games, yes it brings up FPS significantly but some of the quality seems to change to not as crisp ?
  • Overall I am impressed with the EVGA 3080 TI FTW and I see a long life until I do my next upgrade. I am also impressed with the easy system Precision X1 runs compared to other programs. I know a lot of hard core gamers that like to tweak things with After Burner to get better numbers will disagree to a point. But honestly I am seeing similar numbers with Precision X1 while playing games. The core clock while gaming seems to stay up as if it wasn’t capped, so I really don’t see the need to worry at all.
Anyways thats my findings hope it helps others for those interested.
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post edited by Kreedence - 2021/07/12 20:25:58

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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/06/29 21:49:58 (permalink)
Further information.
  • Voltage doesn't seem to be hard capped when you use the power slide, it does move the voltage down as you lower the settings however I noticed the cards programming will definitely up the Core speed and move the voltage up when required if it sees a need but it will keep the watts down where you capped them at.
  • Compared to the bench marking this snap shot below is what I usually see when gaming, in general its 1800+ to 1950 and usually sits where the snap shot shows and tends to no more than 75 mhz 'ish with little FPS loss. The cards programming really does work well.
 
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/06/29 21:58:07 (permalink)
thanks for the info
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/06/29 23:46:15 (permalink)
beautiful
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/08 15:04:56 (permalink)
Thanks, this is very interesting. Reducing the power limit seems a viable alternative to undervolting, in scenarios whereby you're not as concerned with a very high frame rate (e.g. the heavy RTX games where you just want it to look gorgeous and anything over 60fps-70fps is fine)
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/08 20:05:59 (permalink)
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Thanks, this is very interesting. Reducing the power limit seems a viable alternative to undervolting, in scenarios whereby you're not as concerned with a very high frame rate (e.g. the heavy RTX games where you just want it to look gorgeous and anything over 60fps-70fps is fine)



I will use Cyber Punk  as an example, with ultra settings ( The next level RTX settings are not much different) I see 80 to 110 at 4 k ( Fluctuates depending on what game play is being done but mainly sits around 85 to 90 frames)   with the card power set at 60%, my core clock speeds will still run at 1800+, I see this more so when it gets graphic intense , the card programming does try to power up when it needs to and back off when it doesnt need to. 
 
If I  run it at 2 k settings I see frame rates go to 110 + and if I got to 1080 the fps goes to 140+ Clock speeds tend to sit at 1900 + with these other settings.
However if I turn on full settings and the DLSS my frame rate goes way past 145+ fps in 4K resolution. Still not convinced its a better picture though...
 
If the card power is set at 100% I see greater fluctuation with the core clock and I really only see 16 to 20 more FPS across the board. The more examples I see of people tweaking with after burner the more I start to believe they are limiting the cards AI programing to do what it is designed to do.
 
I get the desire to increase FPS in particular games and over clocking certain cards. I chuckle a bit when people over clocking the 3080 ti and complain it only gets small gains in core clock speeds and very little increase in FPS. The card already comes supped up, it doesnt leave much to move it up and stay stable. But damn the heat it throws off with that much more power going through it.  Over Clocking used to be a necessity back in the day, I just dont see that need as much anymore, other than for bragging rights. But then again I am an older gamer so I am less likely to want to chance burning out a $1400 card. Or just buy the card that preforms at the level your looking to get at to start with.
 
 

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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 02:14:32 (permalink)
Do I have to run PrecisionX1 to keep the lowered power target or once applied and saved to profile will the videocard remember the changed value even after exiting the program?

  


 
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 03:58:37 (permalink)
You have to keep it open. Just set it to launch on startup, minimized. Same thing if you use Afterburner.
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 07:16:54 (permalink)
Thanks for posting your data.  Your case and supporting fan setup is rubbish.  On a Lian Li Lancool Mesh II with a front CLC 280 PP fans, plus a 120mm front bottom intake, two 120mm bottom of chamber intake, rear exhaust, open top and the card fans running at 80%, I get 65-68C with the card at max power, gaming load ~415w average, at +150 core +500 mem, 1995-2055 mhz.
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 11:10:52 (permalink)
weird that msi had issues for you. msi is my go to for voltage curve settings. I suggest using a voltage curve in either msi or evga as then you can make a flat line at your desired voltage. 
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 11:15:27 (permalink)
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You have to keep it open. Just set it to launch on startup, minimized. Same thing if you use Afterburner.

after burner can actully apply its overclock settings without launching and running the program in the back ground. you really only need it running in the back ground for after burner if you do a custom fan curve or want the monitoring running. not sure if evga's has a similar option 
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 13:18:51 (permalink)
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Do I have to run PrecisionX1 to keep the lowered power target or once applied and saved to profile will the video card remember the changed value even after exiting the program?


Fuzzy833
You have to keep it open. Just set it to launch on startup, minimized. Same thing if you use Afterburner.


My Precision X starts up when the computer turns on and is set to keep previous settings, once it loads I can close the program and it seems to keep the settings. I usually leave it up and on so I can monitor what is doing. 



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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 13:33:18 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting your data.  Your case and supporting fan setup is rubbish.  On a Lian Li Lancool Mesh II with a front CLC 280 PP fans, plus a 120mm front bottom intake, two 120mm bottom of chamber intake, rear exhaust, open top and the card fans running at 80%, I get 65-68C with the card at max power, gaming load ~415w average, at +150 core +500 mem, 1995-2055 mhz.


 
For the testing I just picked 75% to use as a constant number to compare to the auto setting. Yes by raising that speed up to 80% or more the cooling is more effective and brings the temp down to the numbers you are getting with the card at max settings. So yes by just upping the fan speeds more than what auto does you can lower the temperatures and by having a certain case to help add more air flow does help.
The only problem with fans above 80% is the sound level. Some dont mind it and others dislike it. I managed to tweak mine to so they are much quieter and still provide cooling. Every one is going to have different desires for their own setup.
 
The testing only shows from 100% down, I did not do any over clocking testing. I have zero interest in over clocking this card, its not worth the wear and tear for such little gains. If the ceiling level to boost was higher maybe but it is not with this card.

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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 13:43:47 (permalink)
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weird that msi had issues for you. msi is my go to for voltage curve settings. I suggest using a voltage curve in either msi or evga as then you can make a flat line at your desired voltage. 




Yeah  I spent  a few hours playing with Afterburner and I couldnt get it to work right at all, its like the card totally rejected it.  I tried small adjustments to recommended adjustments... We went through all the options and confirmed everything from updates, correct software to hardware  It just flat out refused to play nice, a couple of my more advanced tech friends couldn't figure it out either. But Precision X no issues one shot worked from the get go.
 
As for the voltage by just capping the power the cards programming is still free to move the voltage around and the core clock speeds when it it sees fit to do so. So far I have seen consistent numbers that the card would produce at default settings anyways.

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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/11 14:11:11 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Kreedence 2021/07/12 20:15:39
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Thanks for posting your data.  Your case and supporting fan setup is rubbish.  On a Lian Li Lancool Mesh II with a front CLC 280 PP fans, plus a 120mm front bottom intake, two 120mm bottom of chamber intake, rear exhaust, open top and the card fans running at 80%, I get 65-68C with the card at max power, gaming load ~415w average, at +150 core +500 mem, 1995-2055 mhz.


 
For the testing I just picked 75% to use as a constant number to compare to the auto setting. Yes by raising that speed up to 80% or more the cooling is more effective and brings the temp down to the numbers you are getting with the card at max settings. So yes by just upping the fan speeds more than what auto does you can lower the temperatures and by having a certain case to help add more air flow does help.
The only problem with fans above 80% is the sound level. Some dont mind it and others dislike it. I managed to tweak mine to so they are much quieter and still provide cooling. Every one is going to have different desires for their own setup.
 
The testing only shows from 100% down, I did not do any over clocking testing. I have zero interest in over clocking this card, its not worth the wear and tear for such little gains. If the ceiling level to boost was higher maybe but it is not with this card.




80% fans is not loud and barely any different than the 75% you tested at. Yet at 80w less you had higher temps. Your case and fan setup is rubbish until proven otherwise.  These cards DO NOT run hot, they easily stay under 70C at max power limit and unlimited frame rate with proper setup.
 
Why bother buying this card if you're going to set it up so it performs like a $700 3080 FE?  That's ridiculous.  People should not be buying these cards for $1400 and then wasting them with poor setup.
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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2021/07/12 20:50:01 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting your data.  Your case and supporting fan setup is rubbish.  On a Lian Li Lancool Mesh II with a front CLC 280 PP fans, plus a 120mm front bottom intake, two 120mm bottom of chamber intake, rear exhaust, open top and the card fans running at 80%, I get 65-68C with the card at max power, gaming load ~415w average, at +150 core +500 mem, 1995-2055 mhz.


 
For the testing I just picked 75% to use as a constant number to compare to the auto setting. Yes by raising that speed up to 80% or more the cooling is more effective and brings the temp down to the numbers you are getting with the card at max settings. So yes by just upping the fan speeds more than what auto does you can lower the temperatures and by having a certain case to help add more air flow does help.
The only problem with fans above 80% is the sound level. Some dont mind it and others dislike it. I managed to tweak mine to so they are much quieter and still provide cooling. Every one is going to have different desires for their own setup.
 
The testing only shows from 100% down, I did not do any over clocking testing. I have zero interest in over clocking this card, its not worth the wear and tear for such little gains. If the ceiling level to boost was higher maybe but it is not with this card.




80% fans is not loud and barely any different than the 75% you tested at. Yet at 80w less you had higher temps. Your case and fan setup is rubbish until proven otherwise.  These cards DO NOT run hot, they easily stay under 70C at max power limit and unlimited frame rate with proper setup.
 
Why bother buying this card if you're going to set it up so it performs like a $700 3080 FE?  That's ridiculous.  People should not be buying these cards for $1400 and then wasting them with poor setup.


I simply posted my findings and settings so others can gauge their rigs if they are interested in undervolting or lowering the power wattage used. 
 
The one reading was a typo  it should read 64 C not 69C. Either way I disagree its wasted, not everyone's going to have the same setup as you and calling everyone else's setups "rubbish" as you have stated through other threads just makes your opinion rubbish. 

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Re: 3080 TI and Precision X1 lowering the temperature 2022/02/09 21:23:53 (permalink)
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80% fans is not loud and barely any different than the 75% you tested at. Yet at 80w less you had higher temps. Your case and fan setup is rubbish until proven otherwise.  These cards DO NOT run hot, they easily stay under 70C at max power limit and unlimited frame rate with proper setup.
 
Why bother buying this card if you're going to set it up so it performs like a $700 3080 FE?  That's ridiculous.  People should not be buying these cards for $1400 and then wasting them with poor setup.


Not sure what you are talking about, the fans one the 3080Ti FTW sound horrible above 60% fan speed.
I'm getting ready to replace the stock ones with some Noctuas just to deal with the noise.
Very disappointing since my 1080Ti was much quieter even at 80%. In the meantime I'm running my card at 80% power limit just to keep it from spinning the fans up to high. 
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