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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/12 08:15:59 (permalink)
EVGA doesn’t make or lose money on the promotions held by nvidia. I have no clue why the price increased, but it has nothing to do with the games.

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/12 08:18:36 (permalink)
As of right now it's still for sale @1099. Good job to everyone talking with their wallets.

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/12 08:59:59 (permalink)
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EVGA doesn’t make or lose money on the promotions held by nvidia. I have no clue why the price increased, but it has nothing to do with the games.
I also seems to have nothing to do with Nvidia, as the FE price hasn't changed.
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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/12 09:25:49 (permalink)
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EVGA doesn’t make or lose money on the promotions held by nvidia. I have no clue why the price increased, but it has nothing to do with the games.
I also seems to have nothing to do with Nvidia, as the FE price hasn't changed.


Wasn’t nvidia already charging $200 extra from day 1?

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/12 11:41:31 (permalink)
The funny thing is, it was never in stock @ $999 (Or at least I couldn't hit it in time). Then magically it went up to $1099 and became in stock.
Maybe it is a revised version? or do they change the model number. I can't believe I paid these ridiculous prices. 
The last card I bought was in 2014 GTX780 $529.00 / 2009 GTX285 $435, / 2008 8800GTS $289 / now the ??80 cards are a grand. I wont say it's inflation at that rate.
Time to get a new Hobby, as I already have to many expensive hobbies. At least the others don't lose value like PC Components.
 
I make my hardware last as long as I can. the 780 just can't do enough frames at decent settings 1080P in the last year. 
Mainly due to 3GB or vRam card is at 100% all the time.
I will note, that this card had better frame rate at 1920x1200 maybe because my CPU was taking on some load.
 
I should get 100-200 FPS now to take advantage of the 144HZ
 
As far as tariffs go that will help shift some jobs back to US economy, I don't mind that.
It would cost a US company much more to ship the other way. If it helps our economy, and create jobs, I'm okay with the price increase.
But the entire price of Nvidia cards seems lunar.
 
 
 
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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/12 12:41:33 (permalink)
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EVGA doesn’t make or lose money on the promotions held by nvidia. I have no clue why the price increased, but it has nothing to do with the games.
I also seems to have nothing to do with Nvidia, as the FE price hasn't changed.


Wasn’t nvidia already charging $200 extra from day 1?

Yes they were …. But that's because its an a-chip with higher pl available I think their intention which is crappy would be to have lesser chips at the suppose 999.00 launch price we never saw .. then we did shortly and now boom tack on 100.00 for someone at evga to buy a few thousand leather jackets I guess ….lol 
Everyone including evga is now a savage every dollar for themselves they can collect they will... I will say I own one I grabbed for 999 and it is not worth a dollar more... my 2 cents   

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/12 13:26:11 (permalink)
Quite a few people showed that the Black (Non A) chip can overclock to the nearly the same exact performance of the higher cost chips. Many of the higher costs chips across all manufacturers have also shown to perform below the lower cost chips.

I usually buy a GPU shortly after release, and I avoided even the lower cost chip because I never thought the price was justified by the performance. Nvidia should have released 2 cards themselves instead of dumping that responsibility on the partners.

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/13 03:40:03 (permalink)
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Quite a few people showed that the Black (Non A) chip can overclock to the nearly the same exact performance of the higher cost chips. Many of the higher costs chips across all manufacturers have also shown to perform below the lower cost chips.

I usually buy a GPU shortly after release, and I avoided even the lower cost chip because I never thought the price was justified by the performance. Nvidia should have released 2 cards themselves instead of dumping that responsibility on the partners.



Yep. That's what helped me pull the trigger is hearing those under water get great clocks out of the box.  All it is is a reference GPU as it was in the past based on silicon lottery.  Some will get lucky but others won't. 
 
I think being in liquid cooling you have an advantage versus on air meaning, the 'low end GPUs' say non A-Chips might be horrible on air but shine under water since they're more demanding versus say $300-$400 A-Chip on air since it can handle it better.  
 
 
Also, I'am really curious if the RAM went from Micron to Samsung so if anyone buys a new GPU since the price increases, a shot of the PCB up close would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/13 06:22:14 (permalink)
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The funny thing is, it was never in stock @ $999 (Or at least I couldn't hit it in time). Then magically it went up to $1099 and became in stock.
[...]
Time to get a new Hobby, as I already have to many expensive hobbies. At least the others don't lose value like PC Components.

 
Same thing here, waiting patiently...
 
But at the end of the day the $ 1099 also sold out, so people silently accept the abuse.
 
So I bought the 2080 black ($699) before the prices goes up too and a new FPV racing drone.
 
As you said, we already have many expensive hobbies.
 
The other consequence of not getting a 2080TI for a fair price was to cancel the purchase of the 9900K and switch to a 2700X, saving about ~300.
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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/13 06:37:50 (permalink)
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Quite a few people showed that the Black (Non A) chip can overclock to the nearly the same exact performance of the higher cost chips. Many of the higher costs chips across all manufacturers have also shown to perform below the lower cost chips.

I usually buy a GPU shortly after release, and I avoided even the lower cost chip because I never thought the price was justified by the performance. Nvidia should have released 2 cards themselves instead of dumping that responsibility on the partners.

I agree it is really nvidias fault for the whole 2 chips design..
 
However they saw an opportunity however from what evga started with your binning practice of cards awhile ago ..
Guess who saw that there was money left on the table and bang they wanted it...
Still does not explain your price increase .. Tariffs did not affect anything else yet..
Also you can get lucky getting a good non-a chip[ but rare ..
Also could you guys give us a 120 pl bios without a overclock on it so nvidia can't get mad but we can get the full use of our 999.00 cards that don't perform as good as they should for 999.00 Please and thanks I get no response I have asked nicely a few times??

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/13 06:50:12 (permalink)
The power limit bios would be at NVidia's mercy.  NVidia has to approve every bios that is going onto their cards.  IF EVGA is not posting a new bios with higher power limits, then more than likely NVidia isn't approving the bios or the changes.  EVGA and NVidia also only guarantee performance to the level advertised by the base clocks and boost clock on the product page that they are selling.  Overclocking is never guaranteed, and the extra power limit should not be required to meet the advertised speeds.  NVidia has never advertised that they will bump power limits at customers request, unfortunately.
 
I keep noticing people state that the tariffs haven't affected anything else, yet...The tariffs would not affect anything that was already in the warehouse, only the items that are received after the tariffs were implemented.  Out of all of the 2070s, only two models are out of stock.. out of all of the 2080's, only two models are also out of stock.  Only the 2080ti stays sold out consistently.  As stock would be coming in, the tariffs would affect that, so stating that the tariffs haven't affected anything else makes perfect sense, IF that is why there was an increase.  I honestly have no idea why the price went up $100 dollars though.  

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/13 07:05:43 (permalink)
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The power limit bios would be at NVidia's mercy.  NVidia has to approve every bios that is going onto their cards.  IF EVGA is not posting a new bios with higher power limits, then more than likely NVidia isn't approving the bios or the changes.  EVGA and NVidia also only guarantee performance to the level advertised by the base clocks and boost clock on the product page that they are selling.  Overclocking is never guaranteed, and the extra power limit should not be required to meet the advertised speeds.  NVidia has never advertised that they will bump power limits at customers request, unfortunately.
 
I keep noticing people state that the tariffs haven't affected anything else, yet...The tariffs would not affect anything that was already in the warehouse, only the items that are received after the tariffs were implemented.  Out of all of the 2070s, only two models are out of stock.. out of all of the 2080's, only two models are also out of stock.  Only the 2080ti stays sold out consistently.  As stock would be coming in, the tariffs would affect that, so stating that the tariffs haven't affected anything else makes perfect sense, IF that is why there was an increase.  I honestly have no idea why the price went up $100 dollars though.  




It will be interesting to see the prices in March when the tariffs hit. They are having good talks right now though so maybe not at all.
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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/13 07:22:27 (permalink)
Hopefully the tariffs go away.  It would be better to refine a good trade deal for both parties.

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/13 12:43:51 (permalink)
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Hopefully the tariffs go away.  It would be better to refine a good trade deal for both parties.


   I agree hopefully we make a good trade deal everyone's happy and no tariffs..
Also thanks for answering on the bios nvidia blocking thing... first response I have gotten 

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/13 13:00:34 (permalink)
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  I agree hopefully we make a good trade deal everyone's happy and no tariffs..
Also thanks for answering on the bios nvidia blocking thing... first response I have gotten 


I miss the days where we could load a bios of our choosing and we could edit our own bios’ to increase power limit as wel as fan speeds. I wish we could get more control back, but alas, NVidia controls the firmware pretty well for the cards that we buy these days.

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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/15 18:42:04 (permalink)
Those Asus Strix Cards are looking good over at New Egg. Think I might pick one of those up. EVGA just hasn't had the right card, price or place for me this round. I want the excellent CS, but buying a card from them just isn't working this round. 
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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/15 20:15:07 (permalink)
It wouldn't surprise me if it was to make up for the losses with all the RMAs.
 
Selling devices at premium prices didn't work for Apple, and it won't work for Nvidia in the long run.
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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/15 20:22:50 (permalink)
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It wouldn't surprise me if it was to make up for the losses with all the RMAs.
 
Selling devices at premium prices didn't work for Apple, and it won't work for Nvidia in the long run.


Well, Apple had people fooled into believing those products were actually worth the extra money. Nvidia has no one fooled and is doing it because there is no competition. At least Apple was building sheep. Nvidia is just pissing people off. The difference is that Apple created loyalty, Nvidia customers are now just waiting for competitors to come along and make something better. 
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Re: 2080 Ti Black Price Increased? 2019/01/16 04:58:00 (permalink)
I don't find our two 2080Ti Black's terrible by any means. My son's is slightly faster, clocking to +200 and +750. Mine clocks to +190 and +700. Heat has not been an issue. We bought at $999 but I do believe I would have bought at $1099 if need be. He may not have paid the increase. We were both coming from GTX 970's and i7 920's with Classified MB's so....
No regrets at all.
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