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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2014/07/29 23:09:21 (permalink)
Would using a conductive pen be the same as moving the resistor? Or would it be easier to just use solder to connect the the two points at the new location.
 
I have a 758-A1 board Rev 1.1 and would like to get a Xeon working in it.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2014/07/30 22:06:24 (permalink)
you should contact evga. they did the mod on my a1 motherboard. i believe that it doesn't void your warranty. a1 has lifetime warranty.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2014/08/19 15:33:09 (permalink)
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you should contact evga. they did the mod on my a1 motherboard. i believe that it doesn't void your warranty. a1 has lifetime warranty.


Warranty is expired.
 
I managed to move 538 to 539. You need to remove the VREG cooler thing so get more access to the two resistor pads. It was a pain in the ass but I got it done. You'll definitely need a needle tip for the soldering iron and I just bridged the solder as when I removed the resistor it simply vanished into the black hole and I never found it. Its really small and even your breath can blow it away.
 
The Xeon X5650 is now up and running on my Rev 1.1 E758-A1 3X SLI motherboard.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2014/08/20 00:54:25 (permalink)
Hi, the resistor has a value of 4k7 (4700ohm), mine has this value, I mesured when i made the change.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2014/09/24 19:29:49 (permalink)
Sorry for a little bit of thread revival, but my board is a rev. 1.1, yet for whatever reason, CPU-z lists my board under the mainboard tab as revision 12. does that actually stand for 1.2 and if it does, is that an error? I looked directly at the board and it appears (I think) that the resistor is still on R538.  BIOS is 83, if that changes anything.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2014/09/24 20:10:28 (permalink)
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Sorry for a little bit of thread revival, but my board is a rev. 1.1, yet for whatever reason, CPU-z lists my board under the mainboard tab as revision 12. does that actually stand for 1.2 and if it does, is that an error? I looked directly at the board and it appears (I think) that the resistor is still on R538.  BIOS is 83, if that changes anything.


I have a 1.2 board and CPU-Z shows it as Rev 13.

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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2014/09/25 17:17:29 (permalink)
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I have a 1.2 board and CPU-Z shows it as Rev 13.



Hmm yeah it probably is just an error by cpu-z.  Oh well, looks like a 980x is in my future instead of x5650.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2015/01/03 23:53:18 (permalink)
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I am happy to report that I successfully did the mod (it was a bit challenging for such a small component) and the motherboard is happily running an Xeon X5660!


How did you do your mod?
Thanks.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2015/01/04 00:01:17 (permalink)
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you should contact evga. they did the mod on my a1 motherboard. i believe that it doesn't void your warranty. a1 has lifetime warranty.


Warranty is expired.
 
I managed to move 538 to 539. You need to remove the VREG cooler thing so get more access to the two resistor pads. It was a pain in the ass but I got it done. You'll definitely need a needle tip for the soldering iron and I just bridged the solder as when I removed the resistor it simply vanished into the black hole and I never found it. Its really small and even your breath can blow it away.
 
The Xeon X5650 is now up and running on my Rev 1.1 E758-A1 3X SLI motherboard.


Did you lose the resistor and just simply bridge the two points on R359?
Thanks.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2016/01/04 09:45:00 (permalink)
Hi,
I have a big problem with my motherboard, a technician tried to move the R538 to R539 but surprisingly he has lost the resistor.

"ryujisakata28" said the resistor has a value of 4k7 (4700ohm)
and
"flyin15sec" said If you happen to lose the resistor, it's a 0 ohm resistor.

I think as "HeavyHemi"  'zero ohm' resistor would be a jumper.

I sent an email to EVGA tech support but brings me to this forum.

I hope someone can help me

thanks a lot.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2017/08/14 20:23:28 (permalink)
I just talked to a tech at EVGA (Dakota?) and he said they couldn't do the Westmere mod. He said something about them not doing repairs anymore. I said "huh?" and he said well, they do repairs but just not that stuff. It's a shame... this MB is like a trusty sidekick after almost 8 years. I'd love to spruce her up with a Xeon, but I'm not going to do the surgery myself. Yes, I know this thread is bare, but I'm sure someone out there will find this useful. 
 
He did suggest I call back again earlier in the day and maybe ask a supervisor, so I think I'll try that.
 
I gotta say it's refreshing to have only wasted a few minutes on the phone so far. Any other company and this could have wasted a good hour. If they had been able to do the mod --on an 8 year old board that's actually still functioning perfectly!-- it probably would have been the neatest thing I could even imagine a company doing.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2017/08/20 16:43:06 (permalink)
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I just talked to a tech at EVGA (Dakota?) and he said they couldn't do the Westmere mod. He said something about them not doing repairs anymore. I said "huh?" and he said well, they do repairs but just not that stuff. It's a shame... this MB is like a trusty sidekick after almost 8 years. I'd love to spruce her up with a Xeon, but I'm not going to do the surgery myself. Yes, I know this thread is bare, but I'm sure someone out there will find this useful. 
 
He did suggest I call back again earlier in the day and maybe ask a supervisor, so I think I'll try that.
 
I gotta say it's refreshing to have only wasted a few minutes on the phone so far. Any other company and this could have wasted a good hour. If they had been able to do the mod --on an 8 year old board that's actually still functioning perfectly!-- it probably would have been the neatest thing I could even imagine a company doing.


the mod is actually quite easy to do, short two spot on the board (or one depending what version you have ) and voila you can run xeons hexacores. did mine and it took 10 minutes and cost zero. 

                               
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2018/11/21 15:56:24 (permalink)
I'm a little late to the Westmere Mod party, but I'm hoping it's still active or at least has someone that can share their knowledge or experience with the mod and answer my questions.
 
Main Question(s):
This is in regards to the 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 as stated in the topic title, did anyone confirm the value of the resistor? User @andradesgau didn't seem to get a response when he asked in 2016. Any confirmation on whether the resistor is necessary or if the pads (R539) can simply be bridged/shorted and the resistor removed completely like doing the mod on some other boards? If R539 can be shorted, do you still need to remove the resistor from R538 or can it be left in place?
 
Background story:
The system the motherboard is in is still in operation and probably will be for another few months. As I was poking around, looking for a replacement northbridge fan, I came across the Westmere Mod. It sounds like fun for the motherboard's last few months and x56xx chips are cheap, so I figured why not? I contacted support to ask about having the mod done and didn't realize they stopped doing it in about 2016. I was told I could perform the mod and as long as I didn't damage the board, my lifetime warranty would still be valid. I asked around and sent pictures to local electronics and mobile device repair shops, but all the ones in a reasonable distance declined the job. I tried a couple shops that do reflowing/reballing, but the minimum cost for a job was way too much for this mod. I decided I'm going to do it myself since I've always wanted to get into hobby electronics and this is a great excuse to buy some equipment.
 
Follow-up question:
If I do need the resistor, besides needing the value, what size is the package (looks like maybe 0603 or 0402)? I don't have anything with that level of precision to measure it. In the case that I do need it, I want to have a replacement ready since it seems there's at least 2 reports of people losing them when doing the mod.
 
The plan:
This is the first google result for 'evga x58 sli westmere mod' so this is where I'm going to document my experience. If no one has answers to my questions, it'll probably a month before I post a follow up. I'm ordering a TS100 and some SMD practice kits from banggood (hence the month wait). I'll document equipment/tools fully in the follow-up. This is the technique I plan on practicing, youtube video 'Fast soldering of 0402 component' or watch?v=3M5tGf9bY6A . If anyone has any tips or advice, feel free to share.
 
Side note about the NB fan:
I did find what looks like an original replacement for the northbridge fan MGT5012XR-A10 (when I called support they said they no longer had any in inventory to send me). I ordered it from aliexpress and when I receive it and confirm it's the right fan, I'll document it in whatever the first google result is for 'evga x58 sli northbridge fan'. BTW, the listings on ebay appear to be the same seller from aliexpress.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2018/11/25 13:52:12 (permalink)
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I'm a little late to the Westmere Mod party, but I'm hoping it's still active or at least has someone that can share their knowledge or experience with the mod and answer my questions.
 
Main Question(s):
This is in regards to the 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 as stated in the topic title, did anyone confirm the value of the resistor? User @andradesgau didn't seem to get a response when he asked in 2016. Any confirmation on whether the resistor is necessary or if the pads (R539) can simply be bridged/shorted and the resistor removed completely like doing the mod on some other boards? If R539 can be shorted, do you still need to remove the resistor from R538 or can it be left in place?
 
Background story:
The system the motherboard is in is still in operation and probably will be for another few months. As I was poking around, looking for a replacement northbridge fan, I came across the Westmere Mod. It sounds like fun for the motherboard's last few months and x56xx chips are cheap, so I figured why not? I contacted support to ask about having the mod done and didn't realize they stopped doing it in about 2016. I was told I could perform the mod and as long as I didn't damage the board, my lifetime warranty would still be valid. I asked around and sent pictures to local electronics and mobile device repair shops, but all the ones in a reasonable distance declined the job. I tried a couple shops that do reflowing/reballing, but the minimum cost for a job was way too much for this mod. I decided I'm going to do it myself since I've always wanted to get into hobby electronics and this is a great excuse to buy some equipment.
 
Follow-up question:
If I do need the resistor, besides needing the value, what size is the package (looks like maybe 0603 or 0402)? I don't have anything with that level of precision to measure it. In the case that I do need it, I want to have a replacement ready since it seems there's at least 2 reports of people losing them when doing the mod.
 
The plan:
This is the first google result for 'evga x58 sli westmere mod' so this is where I'm going to document my experience. If no one has answers to my questions, it'll probably a month before I post a follow up. I'm ordering a TS100 and some SMD practice kits from banggood (hence the month wait). I'll document equipment/tools fully in the follow-up. This is the technique I plan on practicing, youtube video 'Fast soldering of 0402 component' or watch?v=3M5tGf9bY6A . If anyone has any tips or advice, feel free to share.
 
Side note about the NB fan:
I did find what looks like an original replacement for the northbridge fan MGT5012XR-A10 (when I called support they said they no longer had any in inventory to send me). I ordered it from aliexpress and when I receive it and confirm it's the right fan, I'll document it in whatever the first google result is for 'evga x58 sli northbridge fan'. BTW, the listings on ebay appear to be the same seller from aliexpress.




I have performed this mod myself and am currently running a X5650 on my e758. I removed the resistor, and just put a bead of solder between the two pads. Popped the CPU in and everything worked from there!


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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2018/11/25 14:17:07 (permalink)
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I have performed this mod myself and am currently running a X5650 on my e758. I removed the resistor, and just put a bead of solder between the two pads. Popped the CPU in and everything worked from there!



Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I did continue looking for people's experiences with the mod on other forums, but the posts were rarely definitive, lacked information, or simply failed to mention which motherboard the mod was done on. The 2 things that seemed consistent was the answers to 2 of my questions. First, yes, the resistor does have to be removed from R538. Second, yes, the resistor isn't necessary on R539 and bridging those pads is enough. Having confirmation from you on both of those is all I needed to hear to proceed when I receive the soldering iron.
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2018/11/25 19:58:20 (permalink)
I do not know how in depth that was. still got some chips, none of those though, boot sale bargain chips.

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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2020/04/29 18:17:11 (permalink)
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Gomez99
 
I have performed this mod myself and am currently running a X5650 on my e758. I removed the resistor, and just put a bead of solder between the two pads. Popped the CPU in and everything worked from there!



Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I did continue looking for people's experiences with the mod on other forums, but the posts were rarely definitive, lacked information, or simply failed to mention which motherboard the mod was done on. The 2 things that seemed consistent was the answers to 2 of my questions. First, yes, the resistor does have to be removed from R538. Second, yes, the resistor isn't necessary on R539 and bridging those pads is enough. Having confirmation from you on both of those is all I needed to hear to proceed when I receive the soldering iron.


did you ever do the mod?
Was looking for info so i can do my 132-BL-E758-A1 V1.0
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2020/04/30 21:15:18 (permalink)
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I have performed this mod myself and am currently running a X5650 on my e758. I removed the resistor, and just put a bead of solder between the two pads. Popped the CPU in and everything worked from there!



Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I did continue looking for people's experiences with the mod on other forums, but the posts were rarely definitive, lacked information, or simply failed to mention which motherboard the mod was done on. The 2 things that seemed consistent was the answers to 2 of my questions. First, yes, the resistor does have to be removed from R538. Second, yes, the resistor isn't necessary on R539 and bridging those pads is enough. Having confirmation from you on both of those is all I needed to hear to proceed when I receive the soldering iron.


did you ever do the mod?
Was looking for info so i can do my 132-BL-E758-A1 V1.0




Umm...start at post one of this thread and from there you should have all the information you need.

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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2020/05/05 07:03:49 (permalink)
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I have performed this mod myself and am currently running a X5650 on my e758. I removed the resistor, and just put a bead of solder between the two pads. Popped the CPU in and everything worked from there!



Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I did continue looking for people's experiences with the mod on other forums, but the posts were rarely definitive, lacked information, or simply failed to mention which motherboard the mod was done on. The 2 things that seemed consistent was the answers to 2 of my questions. First, yes, the resistor does have to be removed from R538. Second, yes, the resistor isn't necessary on R539 and bridging those pads is enough. Having confirmation from you on both of those is all I needed to hear to proceed when I receive the soldering iron.


did you ever do the mod?
Was looking for info so i can do my 132-BL-E758-A1 V1.0




Umm...start at post one of this thread and from there you should have all the information you need.




My plan right now is to follow the most "recent" poster's instructions which were:
First, yes, the resistor does have to be removed from R538. Second, yes, the resistor isn't necessary on R539 and bridging those pads is enough. Having confirmation from you on both of those is all I needed to hear to proceed when I receive the soldering iron.
 
Ive followed a number of threads both here and elsewhere, and there seemed to be a lot of confusion as to what actually needs to be done.  Hopefully the above will work out.
I have my westmere coming today for my V1.0
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2020/05/06 07:57:03 (permalink)
Ok i figured i do my contribution to this thread since i used it as my main source of information.
My old trusty i7-920 has served me very well for a decade without failure with my best stable clock at 3.9 Ghz (although i lost my profile settings :\ ), but I thought it would be fun to try an upgrade.
 
Hardware/Tools:
-  EVGA Motherboard Part Number: 132-BL-E758-A1 Revision 1.0
-  Westemere x5670 or whatever CPU you want [check the legacy list]  (Side note, x5670 seems to be much more picky than my old 920 as far as overclocking)
 - Pick tool (anything)
 - Micro-soldering gun
 - Solder (smaller diameter is better)
 - Wire cutters
 - Flux 
-  Isopropyl Alcohol
 - Piece of copper wire
 - Magnifying glass with stand
 - Light source (i used my phone)
 - Thermal paste (for reinstall)
 
The way i approached this problem is:
1) remove the motherboard out of the case
2) Remove North Bridge and South Bridge (6 phillips screws)
3) Clean all the old thermal paste with some alcohol/wipes
4) Position magnifying glass over the work area
5) Use a pick and soldering gun to heat the SMD element on R538 while at the same time gently pushing it with a pick, eventually you are able to move the tiny SMD element away.
6) As far as bridging R539, this was more challenging than removing R538 in my opinion. My final solution was to tin a small amount of copper wire with Solder. Use a pair of snips to cut off a small amount of the tinned wire (the length to bridge the two pads of R539). Apply some flux to the R539 pads. I then placed the small piece of tinned wire over top of the two pads, heated it with a soldering gun, as the solder started to reflow it became bound from the wire onto the R539 pads. Clean the surface with some alcohol to make sure all the flux is gone and it wont corrode anything over time.
7....etc) The rest is business as normal, install new CPU, apply thermal compound to NB + SB, reassemble everything.
etc.+) Clear CMOS, boot. Enjoy.
 
Hope this helps someone doing this in 2030+, long live X58 ! :)
 
 
 
 (wont let me post a link so here)
Legacy list: evga . com / support / motherboard / legacy /
post edited by verbstyler - 2020/05/06 07:59:17
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2020/11/20 12:42:20 (permalink)
I am happy to report, that  my modded 132-BL-E758-A1 (moved r538 to r539) my favorite X5675, which is not in the list of supported cpu's from legacy cpu support list (as I understand x5675 was released after this list was compiled)
X5675 is still very capable for modern usage, (unfortunately does not have AVX instructions, which some new games require), I had it paired with RX 480 (8GB) and don't remember ever having CPU bottleneck (meaning GPU was always working out hard to keep up with CPU at 1080p)
 
Now I use this board for retro system (still supports XP) and I have retro XP system with 6 cores and 12 threads (first time I saw 12 threads on XP)

I know its overkill, I will turn off HT and hopefully it will give bit boost for OC
One thing, Vcore values available from BIOS did not work, even it shows the value, in OS it did not actually providing set voltage, AIDA64, CPUz and others shows default values, but eleet tune sets vcore, which is actually applied,
I do not know if this behavior is for "unsupported" Westmere or in general, but with help of eleet tune, its not a problem
post edited by george_jibuti - 2020/11/21 00:43:13
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2021/01/06 14:58:54 (permalink)
Reviving the thread.  I have a Rev 1.0 x58 SLI board.  Due to the conflicting info I was able to find, I thought I have a board that works out of the box with Xeon processors and bought a Xeon X5675 already.  I've even called EVGA and they said they no longer offer that service.  
 
I live in the Bay area.  Anyone has a pointer to any shops or individuals that can do the mods for a reasonable fee?  Hate to see this board goes to waste.
 
Thanks
Eric
 
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2021/01/07 02:19:10 (permalink)
If you can't find anything, I would look up a local electronics repair shop, or PC repair. Seems pretty straightforward. GL! 
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2021/01/08 14:04:44 (permalink)
Whoops misread post.

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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2021/01/13 21:06:39 (permalink)
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Reviving the thread.  I have a Rev 1.0 x58 SLI board.  Due to the conflicting info I was able to find, I thought I have a board that works out of the box with Xeon processors and bought a Xeon X5675 already.  I've even called EVGA and they said they no longer offer that service.  
 
I live in the Bay area.  Anyone has a pointer to any shops or individuals that can do the mods for a reasonable fee?  Hate to see this board goes to waste.
 
Thanks
Eric
 


Seems I'm not the only one toying with this..  I have a 762 and can't find anything relevant though.  
170-BL-E762-A1  Anyone know if these need modded? Already have the 83 bios

Revision is 1.0 so it looks like it needs the mod but I don’t see the relevant points to modify and my board layout seems to be very different than the pictures I’ve seen posted.
post edited by s8er01z - 2021/01/14 18:05:25
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2021/01/15 19:39:50 (permalink)
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ericshchu
Reviving the thread.  I have a Rev 1.0 x58 SLI board.  Due to the conflicting info I was able to find, I thought I have a board that works out of the box with Xeon processors and bought a Xeon X5675 already.  I've even called EVGA and they said they no longer offer that service.  
 
I live in the Bay area.  Anyone has a pointer to any shops or individuals that can do the mods for a reasonable fee?  Hate to see this board goes to waste.
 
Thanks
Eric
 


Seems I'm not the only one toying with this..  I have a 762 and can't find anything relevant though.  
170-BL-E762-A1  Anyone know if these need modded? Already have the 83 bios

Revision is 1.0 so it looks like it needs the mod but I don’t see the relevant points to modify and my board layout seems to be very different than the pictures I’ve seen posted.

I used these 2 and am running W3680 on my 4-way classified. https://forums.evga.com/X.-rv-10-mod-m2564704.aspx
 
They are very small, I just used my soldering iron tip (wedge) to bridge them with some solder.  You do have to remove the heatsink in the middle of the board to reach the area in the smaller photo, I don't have a bigger one unfortunately.
 
If there is an electronics repair shop near you they should be able to do it.
post edited by DEJ915 - 2021/01/15 19:44:10
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Re: 132-BL-E758-A1 Rev 1.0 Westmere Mod 2021/01/15 20:29:51 (permalink)
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