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2017/02/10 19:34:57 (permalink)
Can we get a good closeup of the new ICX 1080 FTW pcb, please.  Preferably from a few different angles.  Some of us would like to look at the fit, to make sure our blocks are going to be compatible.
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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/10 20:47:16 (permalink)
You would think if at all possible they would have avoided any changes that would make thousands of waterblocks useless.

I mean they JUST RELEASED their Hydro-Copper FTW, a drastic change would seem patently insane?
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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/10 20:54:43 (permalink)
They explicitly said the blocks would need minor changes due to the added micro controllers. I'm sure it just needs added pads. This was mentioned on the podcast.

For what it's worth, the hydro copper covers the whole card including the memory and power components. You could run off of coolant temperature since the Temps would even out.


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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/10 21:04:22 (permalink)
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They explicitly said the blocks would need minor changes due to the added micro controllers. I'm sure it just needs added pads. This was mentioned on the podcast.

For what it's worth, the hydro copper covers the whole card including the memory and power components. You could run off of coolant temperature since the Temps would even out.


Coolant temps for VRM and memory temps?  lol, no....
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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/10 21:09:12 (permalink)
All heat generated goes into the coolant flow on a hydro copper or other full cover block. iCX only needs the Temps for air cooling. A hybrid kit would need to be modified though as the vrm temps could control the fan portion and mem/gpu temp could control pump.


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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/11 11:07:43 (permalink)
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All heat generated goes into the coolant flow on a hydro copper or other full cover block. iCX only needs the Temps for air cooling. A hybrid kit would need to be modified though as the vrm temps could control the fan portion and mem/gpu temp could control pump.


Yeah....that's the function of a full coverage block.  To cool everything......but the temps on the VRM and memory still aren't going to just be what the coolant is running.  


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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/11 11:09:35 (permalink)
theres a second fan header now so i guess this rules out block compatibility

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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/11 11:10:14 (permalink)
I have also requested this for the EVGA Classified.
 
So we can be ready "before hand" when the Classified one is launched.
 
This isn't a difficult request, EVGA.


 
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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/11 11:19:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kwkrnu72 2017/02/11 17:19:08

 
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2799-evga-gtx-1080-ftw2-sc2-icx-in-depth-thermal-analysis
 
There is a pic of it here with the midplate on. You might be able to get a sense of it if you expand the pic out.


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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/11 11:24:59 (permalink)
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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/11 17:18:21 (permalink)
Yup.  That extra fan header definitely kills it.  Looks tall enough too, that a little bit of machining wouldn't even do any good.  /smh


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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/12 00:44:08 (permalink)
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Yup.  That extra fan header definitely kills it.  Looks tall enough too, that a little bit of machining wouldn't even do any good.  /smh





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I had a few fleeting moments.

I could spend 99$+shipping and get rid of the time bomb I bought and maybe recoup a little resale value!

No, it wont work with the waterblock you invested in?

Yes, I feel the joy spreading through my heart ...



...no wait, the heart is much higher.
post edited by XrayMan - 2017/02/12 10:57:26
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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/12 01:24:06 (permalink)
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I have also requested this for the EVGA Classified.
 
So we can be ready "before hand" when the Classified one is launched.
 
This isn't a difficult request, EVGA.


Did they announce they were going to make a classified version?
 
I noticed the 4 pin connector is there also on the existing FTW model, it's just not used.
 

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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/12 01:39:23 (permalink)
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Yup.  That extra fan header definitely kills it.  Looks tall enough too, that a little bit of machining wouldn't even do any good.  /smh





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Seriously, the letters FTW out of order are moderated


I had a few fleeting moments.

I could spend 99$+shipping and get rid of the time bomb I bought and maybe recoup a little resale value!

No, it wont work with the waterblock you invested in?

Yes, I feel the joy spreading through my heart ...



...no wait, the heart is much higher.




Why is your current GPU a time bomb? As far as I can tell, it looks like the only significant changes are to the cooling and they added some thermistors. Otherwise isn't the hardware pretty much identical?

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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/12 02:57:39 (permalink)
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Why is your current GPU a time bomb? As far as I can tell, it looks like the only significant changes are to the cooling and they added some thermistors. Otherwise isn't the hardware pretty much identical?



Hardware wise, yes....except for the temp sensors, and apparently, an extra fan header.  

Here's the deal.  Stepping up to ICX extends the step up program 90 days, so one may be able to take advantage of it for the 1080ti.  Unfortunately, for a lot of us, this means losing out on $300 worth of GPU blocks, because they're going to be useless on the new ICX GPU.  So, spend an extra $100 to get the new ICX card, lose out on watercooling for a few months, as I find it highly unlikely anyone will have a block out any time soon, just to have a card that'll retain a little bit better resale value / trade in value, OR, stay put, defaulting out of the step up program for the 1080ti and keep the ability to watercool.  Not to mention the blocks resale value just dropped near nothing...won't be able to recoup much, if anything at all out of a block for a card that nobody has anymore.

All in all, I figure to lose about $200 each card on this deal....and that's staying put and getting REALLY lucky.

All because the engineering wizards couldn't figure out that VRMs getting too hot was going to be an issue.  Brilliant.

I'm not paying them for their screw up.....and it'll be a cold day in you know where, before I buy EVGA again.
post edited by kwkrnu72 - 2017/02/12 03:01:19
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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/12 05:20:39 (permalink)
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Why is your current GPU a time bomb? As far as I can tell, it looks like the only significant changes are to the cooling and they added some thermistors. Otherwise isn't the hardware pretty much identical?



Hardware wise, yes....except for the temp sensors, and apparently, an extra fan header.  

Here's the deal.  Stepping up to ICX extends the step up program 90 days, so one may be able to take advantage of it for the 1080ti.  Unfortunately, for a lot of us, this means losing out on $300 worth of GPU blocks, because they're going to be useless on the new ICX GPU.  So, spend an extra $100 to get the new ICX card, lose out on watercooling for a few months, as I find it highly unlikely anyone will have a block out any time soon, just to have a card that'll retain a little bit better resale value / trade in value, OR, stay put, defaulting out of the step up program for the 1080ti and keep the ability to watercool.  Not to mention the blocks resale value just dropped near nothing...won't be able to recoup much, if anything at all out of a block for a card that nobody has anymore.

All in all, I figure to lose about $200 each card on this deal....and that's staying put and getting REALLY lucky.

All because the engineering wizards couldn't figure out that VRMs getting too hot was going to be an issue.  Brilliant.

I'm not paying them for their screw up.....and it'll be a cold day in you know where, before I buy EVGA again.




I suppose you could sell the card and block as a unit. Still a loss I know and no Step Up but at least you would have something substantial to put toward the Ti IF we ever see one.
 
ETA They did replace some of the components. Some of the ON ones.


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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/02/12 09:49:34 (permalink)
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HeavyHemi
 
Why is your current GPU a time bomb? As far as I can tell, it looks like the only significant changes are to the cooling and they added some thermistors. Otherwise isn't the hardware pretty much identical?



Hardware wise, yes....except for the temp sensors, and apparently, an extra fan header.  

Here's the deal.  Stepping up to ICX extends the step up program 90 days, so one may be able to take advantage of it for the 1080ti.  Unfortunately, for a lot of us, this means losing out on $300 worth of GPU blocks, because they're going to be useless on the new ICX GPU.  So, spend an extra $100 to get the new ICX card, lose out on watercooling for a few months, as I find it highly unlikely anyone will have a block out any time soon, just to have a card that'll retain a little bit better resale value / trade in value, OR, stay put, defaulting out of the step up program for the 1080ti and keep the ability to watercool.  Not to mention the blocks resale value just dropped near nothing...won't be able to recoup much, if anything at all out of a block for a card that nobody has anymore.

All in all, I figure to lose about $200 each card on this deal....and that's staying put and getting REALLY lucky.

All because the engineering wizards couldn't figure out that VRMs getting too hot was going to be an issue.  Brilliant.

I'm not paying them for their screw up.....and it'll be a cold day in you know where, before I buy EVGA again.


I don't think I'll avoid Evga over this but this will be my second and last FTW.

Never again anything but a reference model.
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Re: 1080 FTW waterblock on new ICX card 2017/04/01 17:47:26 (permalink)
So what are your temps then if its a "time bomb" even if it does fail which it probably wont even if the temps are too high for you, you would just rma it and evga would probably send you an icx. But since your putting a waterblock on it which come with new thermal pads btw, the upgrade to icx is pointless and your wasting your own money. I say good riddance those who say this is their last evga card more avaliable cards for the rest of us in the future. End your evga membership and go to asus or some other company if one of their cards fails youll be wishing they had the customer support like evga does.
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