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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 06:20:49 (permalink)
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For the upgrade to ICX we have to pay $100. If we paid ~$600 for the 1080 and the 1080ti is coming out at ~$700.. I wonder if they're going to make us pay again to step up, since we would have already paid the difference of the new card. Does that make sense?

Best advice would be to wait till EVGA issues a formal statement.
 
My gut tells me that you'll be receiving the new (lower) msrp value of the 1080 ICX which is either 499 to 549. And that point you pay the difference of 150. Again, anything isn't confirmed till EVGA says what the plan is.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 06:20:49 (permalink)
I would be interested in going straight to the new 1080Ti as well. I am also pending approval.

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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 06:54:41 (permalink)
Another pending approval here as well. I'd love the idea to be able to jump to the 1080 ti step up if possible as well. Just seems like a hassle for both sides to send an aCX card to get an iCX than to send the iCX for the TI.

Been waiting since the 22nd of February
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 10:00:31 (permalink)
Well I like others here are waiting to see what can be done. As it is one of my cards has been in the ICX upgrade queue since Feb 10th.
 
But really I think we will have to be waiting until at least March 10th. Hopefully after that we can get some answers. And lets face it going straight to the 1080ti over the double shipping stuff will only benefit everyone involved and get evga even more kudus for customer service. I know if I was in charge I would me looking into getting it done.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 11:21:03 (permalink)
yep, would like to go straight to 1080Ti as well.. EVGA make it happen!

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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 12:08:16 (permalink)
A lot of us are still wondering whats happening about the flagship 1080 card. (Classy).
 
Seems we've been forgotten about. (back to front situation).


 
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 13:38:12 (permalink)
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A lot of us are still wondering whats happening about the flagship 1080 card. (Classy).
 
Seems we've been forgotten about. (back to front situation).




 
nope...nobody has forgotten about it.  There are a ton of threads already up on the main page.
 
Since that doesn't even have an iCX upgrade option yet, it's an irrelevant card to the rest of this discussion
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 14:16:37 (permalink)
Yeah, the classified was the last to come out, so it makes sense for it to be the last one to get the ICX treatment as well.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 14:28:23 (permalink)
As of right now - the FTW2 iCX is listed at $679 http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6686-KR This should the "trade in" value going into the TI imo
 
If a user today were to purchase the 1080 FTW2 ICX, this is what their value would be within the 90day step up program.
 
For us upgraders, we already paid ~$650-$680 for the FTW and going to pony up another $99 for the ICX upgrade.  It would be very unfortunate if we had to pay $99 only to have the ICX valued at ~$499.  Total cost in for FTW $650 + $99 + Shipping or about $775, Total Value going towards the Ti would be $499 - shipping - about $450...loss of $225. 

Thats quiet the difference, especially with all the controversy and time spent resolving/modding our heating issue. Please correct me if my math is wrong. 

I would hope that iCX upgraders would get full retail value as of right now ($679USD) 
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/02 15:34:08 (permalink)
if anything it wont be $499.  It'll probably be a $100 drop across the board, making the FTW $579.  So $130.
 
But yeah, that's my worry too, but I hope they go based off of what the cards are valued at NOW, at the time of trade in
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/03 21:35:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2017/03/07 11:25:27
Just figured I would mention this here but we have an answer with regards to the worth of the ICX cards in the step-up.
 
Here is a quote from Chris you can find here: http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2623607
EVGATech_ChrisB
Hi,
 
I can confirm that EVGA will be offering the GTX 1080 Ti for Step-up, but we do not have any additional information to offer at this time.
 
The ICX Upgrade cards will be honored at the original M.S.R.P. listed on EVGA.com at the time of their release and we are working on options for the GTX 1080 Classified customers which will be announced once available.
 
Thank you everyone for your patience.


 
So the ICX upgraders will get the full $679 (FTW cards) worth. :-)
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/03 22:13:21 (permalink)
Well then buckle up buckereroo! Looks like I'll be rolling with a reference 1080 Ti in about 4 months when the dust finally settles.


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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/03 23:49:11 (permalink)
yeah I wont even mind going from a SC to a reference stock version if I have to.
 
It's still worth the $50 + shipping
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/04 13:06:27 (permalink)
While I would love to stick to the FTW version, I am also fine moving down to a reference pcb. But that said I sure wish/hope there will be an ICX option for us to step up to. Mainly since I am thinking about the water cooling aspect and having the extra sensors would be beneficial.
 
Either way I'm still looking at $100 (icx upgrade) + $20 (step-up) x 2 (sli). So $240 US which is $321 CDN. And then you have to factor in shipping, and this is where I have to decide if it is all worth it. If I have to ship my acx then get the icx and then ship that out, it is going to cost a lot. It is basically about $60 to ship one card with insurance. Or about $75 if I can do both together. So that means if I can ship together, we are looking at $75 x2 = $150. But if I have to ship separately then $60 x 2 x 2 = $240. So basically it comes down to this:
 
Non-streamlined process (as it stands now)
Separate shipping $240 + $321 = $561 total
Combined shipping $150 + $321 = $471 total
 
Streamlined process (bypass ICX go straight to ti, but still pay upgrade fee)
Separate shipping $120 + $321 = $441 total
Combined shipping $75 + $321 = $396 total
 
So as you can see for me with my 2 1080FTWs I am looking at a minimum of $396 up to $561 to move to the 1080ti. So the real question is this, is it worth it? I mean I could always sell my cards and buy new, but that would definitely cost more, but it would allow me to get whatever card I want not just reference. Honestly I don't care if the shipping has to be done separately, but it sure would be nice to get the process streamlined. And as I said before, it is not only cheaper for me, but it is also cheaper for Evga. And means they don't have to waste 2 ICX cards that now can't be sold as new. Even if I have to wait a bit for this to happen I will and am glad that there is even the chance to do this. Just hope Evga will consider the streamlined process for those that want to step-up.
 
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/06 00:58:35 (permalink)
I hope that there is coming an exceptional-stepup to upgrade to an SC3 or FTW3 Card and so on maybe
for a small timeframe or something like that. 
I think EVGA don't want to let the customers down again after that cooling disaster with ACX 3.0. 
 
It would be not nice that there is only a possibility to upgrade to the standard card or Founders Edition. 

I bought an 1070 FTW ACX, upgrade to 1070 FTW iCX and then get the Ti Standard Edition back :)



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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/06 04:19:47 (permalink)
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I hope that there is coming an exceptional-stepup to upgrade to an SC3 or FTW3 Card and so on maybe
for a small timeframe or something like that. 
I think EVGA don't want to let the customers down again after that cooling disaster with ACX 3.0. 
 
It would be not nice that there is only a possibility to upgrade to the standard card or Founders Edition. 

I bought an 1070 FTW ACX, upgrade to 1070 FTW iCX and then get the Ti Standard Edition back :)






I don't even think they should release ACX cards anymore after that fiasco.
 
Make iCX the standard cooler
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/06 04:45:10 (permalink)
I hope they'll recognize that ACX was a disaster for the card resale value and value us who still stayed with them and wish to spend even more money on icx and 1080Ti ed...
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/06 20:39:17 (permalink)
 
I have not had any issues with the ACX fans. ICX is just an upgrade. Just improving a fans performance.   

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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/06 22:23:24 (permalink)
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I have not had any issues with the ACX fans. ICX is just an upgrade. Just improving a fans performance.   


I would think that ACX cards will have garbage resale. That's the main reason that I'll likely move to ICX. The VRM issue has tainted these cards.

Then again, I will never use the ICX since I'll have a Ti before then. I can see the whole step up process will take too long, so I won't wait. Depending on values, I'll either sell the ICX or step that to Ti and sell it.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 00:46:27 (permalink)
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I have not had any issues with the ACX fans. ICX is just an upgrade. Just improving a fans performance.   


It's not the point. I don't have problems with ACX - but, their rep in the public has gone south, cards worth has been damaged by a PR disaster. EVGA knows that, ICX replace is their answer, it's not an upgrade, it's the same card with fixed cooling system (could as well be with pads only).
That's the actual problem. However, the Ti step-up will probably take a year to come into action, thus I don't think it'll be worth the wait since Voltas will be coming by the year's end.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 04:50:25 (permalink)
I too jumped on the upgrade train to ICX card ONLY to step-up to 1080Ti so EVGA please do a direct upgrade path for us. Shipping (at least insured) is very expensive in europe so that would save me lots of money. 

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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 05:26:42 (permalink)
*The following is my words and thoughts. I do not know any more than what has been officially announced, I am just participating in this discussion with thoughts of my own*
 
You know... The more I think about this the more I actually think it would be a lot smarter for EVGA to not allow those of us going to the ICX to be able to skip the ICX and go straight to the 1080 TI.
 
Here is why...
 
The TI is going to feel like it is in short supply due to the high demand. Think about it. When was the last time so many folks came out of the woodwork with one objective (To get a TI) from multiple flavors of GPUs? I do believe a large part of this excitement is the price and performance combo is what we all want.
 
As such, I think more folks would be frustrated after time because so many would have been in line waiting for a GPU with no GPU in their computer (Remember, we send in our GPU to get the ICX). Not to mention those that already have the ICX upgrade in their hands, should they too not have the same opportunity to skip the upgrade and go straight to the step up? Oh wait, they cannot because they already have their ICX, so they are not waiting like those that recently purchased a GPU and are following the normal step up process.   
 
And what about those that have recently purchased a GPU through the normal process. I think they too deserve every opportunity to step up. Why should the yet to have been shiped ICX folks have permission to cut in line basically? 
 
My $.02. I too want to skip the ICX and go straight to the TI. But I think for all of our sanity it is best that we all just allow the ICX blessing we received to follow its course.
 
  • We get a new 90 step up window. 
  • The TI is announced and hopefully placed on the Step up list in the 90 day window.
  • We sign  up in droves to the TI Step up
  • We sit back and wait for the potential mutli month long wait for the supply to catch up with demand.
  • All while still getting to use our new ICX's 
 
I hate to say it, but we have all seen, and I can raise my hand on it happening to me, where a GPU is not put on the step up list right away. Resulting in some of us missing out. What may happen is the early ICX adapters need to start "F5'ing" the Step up page once their ICX GPU ships and hope they get in the TI line before their 90 days runs out.
 
Anyway. I actually think the best path for all of our sanity is to not have ICX folks cut in line. We should follow the same process that we all have historically. While I may be saddening myself with this comment because I want the TI, I know it is the right thing to do. 

 
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 05:52:21 (permalink)
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*The following is my words and thoughts. I do not know any more than what has been officially announced, I am just participating in this discussion with thoughts of my own*
 
You know... The more I think about this the more I actually think it would be a lot smarter for EVGA to not allow those of us going to the ICX to be able to skip the ICX and go straight to the 1080 TI.
 
Here is why...
 
The TI is going to feel like it is in short supply due to the high demand. Think about it. When was the last time so many folks came out of the woodwork with one objective (To get a TI) from multiple flavors of GPUs? I do believe a large part of this excitement is the price and performance combo is what we all want.
 
As such, I think more folks would be frustrated after time because so many would have been in line waiting for a GPU with no GPU in their computer (Remember, we send in our GPU to get the ICX). Not to mention those that already have the ICX upgrade in their hands, should they too not have the same opportunity to skip the upgrade and go straight to the step up? Oh wait, they cannot because they already have their ICX, so they are not waiting like those that recently purchased a GPU and are following the normal step up process.   
 
And what about those that have recently purchased a GPU through the normal process. I think they too deserve every opportunity to step up. Why should the yet to have been shiped ICX folks have permission to cut in line basically? 
 
My $.02. I too want to skip the ICX and go straight to the TI. But I think for all of our sanity it is best that we all just allow the ICX blessing we received to follow its course.
 
  • We get a new 90 step up window. 
  • The TI is announced and hopefully placed on the Step up list in the 90 day window.
  • We sign  up in droves to the TI Step up
  • We sit back and wait for the potential mutli month long wait for the supply to catch up with demand.
  • All while still getting to use our new ICX's 
 
I hate to say it, but we have all seen, and I can raise my hand on it happening to me, where a GPU is not put on the step up list right away. Resulting in some of us missing out. What may happen is the early ICX adapters need to start "F5'ing" the Step up page once their ICX GPU ships and hope they get in the TI line before their 90 days runs out.
 
Anyway. I actually think the best path for all of our sanity is to not have ICX folks cut in line. We should follow the same process that we all have historically. While I may be saddening myself with this comment because I want the TI, I know it is the right thing to do. 


+1
Also, what about the people that have already done the ICX upgrade and have the cards in their possession.    The fair way to do this is the way it has always been done.  You have to give it to EVGA, they have kept the system of Step Up, fair and impartial.  That must remain intact.  

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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 06:15:55 (permalink)
LOL, no. :)
 
The very problem is that, in a case when one does not want to step-up or upgrade, you can sell your old card with some loss and buy a new one regularly.
 
This time tho, EVGA messed up the whole production line and that made resale value for their 1080 line - trash. Doesn't matter if your card may survive the heat or last long, it's simple the problem of loosing one upgrade path: selling a card for a reasonable amount and buying a new one. A 750 FTW would be worth maybe 500, but with the cooling fiasco it's worth how much? Can you sell a "will burn up in flames any moment"-card to anyone?
 
Now, the ICX is 100 more on the price, which MUST include something, especially since 1080Ti is the very same price as old FTWs now. You'd have to pay 100 for ICX then 100 for the Ti. Might as well bought Titans for 1200 at that rate and not bother with all the hassle being a result of customers trusting EVGA not to mess up "bigly" as they did.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 06:17:22 (permalink)
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*The following is my words and thoughts. I do not know any more than what has been officially announced, I am just participating in this discussion with thoughts of my own*
 
You know... The more I think about this the more I actually think it would be a lot smarter for EVGA to not allow those of us going to the ICX to be able to skip the ICX and go straight to the 1080 TI.
 
Here is why...
 
The TI is going to feel like it is in short supply due to the high demand. Think about it. When was the last time so many folks came out of the woodwork with one objective (To get a TI) from multiple flavors of GPUs? I do believe a large part of this excitement is the price and performance combo is what we all want.
 
As such, I think more folks would be frustrated after time because so many would have been in line waiting for a GPU with no GPU in their computer (Remember, we send in our GPU to get the ICX). Not to mention those that already have the ICX upgrade in their hands, should they too not have the same opportunity to skip the upgrade and go straight to the step up? Oh wait, they cannot because they already have their ICX, so they are not waiting like those that recently purchased a GPU and are following the normal step up process.   
 
And what about those that have recently purchased a GPU through the normal process. I think they too deserve every opportunity to step up. Why should the yet to have been shiped ICX folks have permission to cut in line basically? 
 
My $.02. I too want to skip the ICX and go straight to the TI. But I think for all of our sanity it is best that we all just allow the ICX blessing we received to follow its course.
 
  • We get a new 90 step up window. 
  • The TI is announced and hopefully placed on the Step up list in the 90 day window.
  • We sign  up in droves to the TI Step up
  • We sit back and wait for the potential mutli month long wait for the supply to catch up with demand.
  • All while still getting to use our new ICX's 
 
I hate to say it, but we have all seen, and I can raise my hand on it happening to me, where a GPU is not put on the step up list right away. Resulting in some of us missing out. What may happen is the early ICX adapters need to start "F5'ing" the Step up page once their ICX GPU ships and hope they get in the TI line before their 90 days runs out.
 
Anyway. I actually think the best path for all of our sanity is to not have ICX folks cut in line. We should follow the same process that we all have historically. While I may be saddening myself with this comment because I want the TI, I know it is the right thing to do. 


I think there is at least two major flaws I see in your well thought out argument. First we would not be waiting without a GPU in our machines. The process could be exactly how it is right now for the icx upgrade and the step-up, you don't send in your card until they have one for you. So really you are out of a card less time, since you would only have to do it once, instead of twice without a direct path. Second, I don't think there would be any cutting in line, I don't want us put to the front of the line. I think it should work like this.
  • Once the approval for an ICX card comes through they send you an email with 7 days to pay
  • In that email have an option to instead of taking the ICX, you join the step-up queue for the 1080ti
  • You continue to use you acx card while in the queue for the 1080ti step-up
  • Once a 1080ti is available for you, get email with cost of step-up + $99 for icx upgrade (maybe charge that $99 when you join the queue)
  • Pay and then ship card in
  • Get 1080ti and happiness for all :-)
This way you don't join the queue until you would have been getting a ICX anyways so no line jumping, plus this means that you are still waiting for the ICX like everyone else so again no jumping the line. And this also helps address the people that have already gotten their ICX cards, they will be able to enter the step-up as soon as it is available, while the rest still have to wait for their ICX upgrade emails.
 
Now of course if there is no step-up offered by the time they get through all the icx upgrades then the entire thing is a moo point (you know, a cows opinion). But like I have said before and will keep saying until this is all said and done, this not only saves their customers money, it also will save Evga a large chunk of cash for shipping alone. Not to mention the amount of cards that will immediately be pre-owned without a reason to be.
 
And that is my $.02.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 07:05:37 (permalink)
The inconvenience of shipping your aCX for the iCX and then another shipping of your iCX to TI is ridiculous, especially for people outside of the states. Think about that.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 10:06:25 (permalink)
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*The following is my words and thoughts. I do not know any more than what has been officially announced, I am just participating in this discussion with thoughts of my own*
 
You know... The more I think about this the more I actually think it would be a lot smarter for EVGA to not allow those of us going to the ICX to be able to skip the ICX and go straight to the 1080 TI.
 
Here is why...
 
The TI is going to feel like it is in short supply due to the high demand. Think about it. When was the last time so many folks came out of the woodwork with one objective (To get a TI) from multiple flavors of GPUs? I do believe a large part of this excitement is the price and performance combo is what we all want.
 
As such, I think more folks would be frustrated after time because so many would have been in line waiting for a GPU with no GPU in their computer (Remember, we send in our GPU to get the ICX). Not to mention those that already have the ICX upgrade in their hands, should they too not have the same opportunity to skip the upgrade and go straight to the step up? Oh wait, they cannot because they already have their ICX, so they are not waiting like those that recently purchased a GPU and are following the normal step up process.   
 
And what about those that have recently purchased a GPU through the normal process. I think they too deserve every opportunity to step up. Why should the yet to have been shiped ICX folks have permission to cut in line basically? 
 
My $.02. I too want to skip the ICX and go straight to the TI. But I think for all of our sanity it is best that we all just allow the ICX blessing we received to follow its course.
 
  • We get a new 90 step up window. 
  • The TI is announced and hopefully placed on the Step up list in the 90 day window.
  • We sign  up in droves to the TI Step up
  • We sit back and wait for the potential mutli month long wait for the supply to catch up with demand.
  • All while still getting to use our new ICX's 
 
I hate to say it, but we have all seen, and I can raise my hand on it happening to me, where a GPU is not put on the step up list right away. Resulting in some of us missing out. What may happen is the early ICX adapters need to start "F5'ing" the Step up page once their ICX GPU ships and hope they get in the TI line before their 90 days runs out.
 
Anyway. I actually think the best path for all of our sanity is to not have ICX folks cut in line. We should follow the same process that we all have historically. While I may be saddening myself with this comment because I want the TI, I know it is the right thing to do. 


I think there is at least two major flaws I see in your well thought out argument. First we would not be waiting without a GPU in our machines. The process could be exactly how it is right now for the icx upgrade and the step-up, you don't send in your card until they have one for you. So really you are out of a card less time, since you would only have to do it once, instead of twice without a direct path. Second, I don't think there would be any cutting in line, I don't want us put to the front of the line. I think it should work like this.
  • Once the approval for an ICX card comes through they send you an email with 7 days to pay
  • In that email have an option to instead of taking the ICX, you join the step-up queue for the 1080ti
  • You continue to use you acx card while in the queue for the 1080ti step-up
  • Once a 1080ti is available for you, get email with cost of step-up + $99 for icx upgrade (maybe charge that $99 when you join the queue)
  • Pay and then ship card in
  • Get 1080ti and happiness for all :-)
This way you don't join the queue until you would have been getting a ICX anyways so no line jumping, plus this means that you are still waiting for the ICX like everyone else so again no jumping the line. And this also helps address the people that have already gotten their ICX cards, they will be able to enter the step-up as soon as it is available, while the rest still have to wait for their ICX upgrade emails.
 
Now of course if there is no step-up offered by the time they get through all the icx upgrades then the entire thing is a moo point (you know, a cows opinion). But like I have said before and will keep saying until this is all said and done, this not only saves their customers money, it also will save Evga a large chunk of cash for shipping alone. Not to mention the amount of cards that will immediately be pre-owned without a reason to be.
 
And that is my $.02.




 
The biggest issue, and one that Afterburner brings up (which I also voiced earlier in this whole thread) is what about those of us who already have our iCX cards?
 
You don't think I, for example, would have loved to skipped the hassle of shipping my cards in twice?  Of course I would have.  The issue is - I have my card already, and that means I will HAVE to pay to ship it twice.  If EVGA allows those who don't have their cards yet to jump straight over to a Ti step up, it means YOU dont have to pay twice for shipping.  But I still do.  It's not MY fault you are all still in a queue for your cards.  But now those of us with completed upgrades need to pay?  No thank you.  If they offer a free shipping label for us, then I'm all for it.  If not, then everyone has to pay, because we all signed up for the same program.
 
I know that's all going to come off as super entitled sounding, but I mean...it's true.  We were all in the same line.  We all have the same rules.
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 10:37:28 (permalink)
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LOL, no. :)
 
The very problem is that, in a case when one does not want to step-up or upgrade, you can sell your old card with some loss and buy a new one regularly.
 
This time tho, EVGA messed up the whole production line and that made resale value for their 1080 line - trash. Doesn't matter if your card may survive the heat or last long, it's simple the problem of loosing one upgrade path: selling a card for a reasonable amount and buying a new one. A 750 FTW would be worth maybe 500, but with the cooling fiasco it's worth how much? Can you sell a "will burn up in flames any moment"-card to anyone?
 
Now, the ICX is 100 more on the price, which MUST include something, especially since 1080Ti is the very same price as old FTWs now. You'd have to pay 100 for ICX then 100 for the Ti. Might as well bought Titans for 1200 at that rate and not bother with all the hassle being a result of customers trusting EVGA not to mess up "bigly" as they did.




EVGA is not in the business of ensuring the resale value of your purchase. 'There's no burning up in flames' card. That's an internet myth invented by folks that should know better. No offense, but you're you're adding to the problem by repeating it. It's unfortunate that the herd mentality viral nature of the internet turns these rare incidents into OMGWTBBQ every EVGA 10 series card is like an old road flare waiting to explode. It is unfortunate, but that isn't EVGA's fault either.

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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 11:01:40 (permalink)
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I think there is at least two major flaws I see in your well thought out argument. First we would not be waiting without a GPU in our machines. The process could be exactly how it is right now for the icx upgrade and the step-up, you don't send in your card until they have one for you. So really you are out of a card less time, since you would only have to do it once, instead of twice without a direct path. Second, I don't think there would be any cutting in line, I don't want us put to the front of the line. I think it should work like this.
  • Once the approval for an ICX card comes through they send you an email with 7 days to pay
  • In that email have an option to instead of taking the ICX, you join the step-up queue for the 1080ti
  • You continue to use you acx card while in the queue for the 1080ti step-up
  • Once a 1080ti is available for you, get email with cost of step-up + $99 for icx upgrade (maybe charge that $99 when you join the queue)
  • Pay and then ship card in
  • Get 1080ti and happiness for all :-)
This way you don't join the queue until you would have been getting a ICX anyways so no line jumping, plus this means that you are still waiting for the ICX like everyone else so again no jumping the line. And this also helps address the people that have already gotten their ICX cards, they will be able to enter the step-up as soon as it is available, while the rest still have to wait for their ICX upgrade emails.
 
Now of course if there is no step-up offered by the time they get through all the icx upgrades then the entire thing is a moo point (you know, a cows opinion). But like I have said before and will keep saying until this is all said and done, this not only saves their customers money, it also will save Evga a large chunk of cash for shipping alone. Not to mention the amount of cards that will immediately be pre-owned without a reason to be.
 
And that is my $.02.




 
The biggest issue, and one that Afterburner brings up (which I also voiced earlier in this whole thread) is what about those of us who already have our iCX cards?
 
You don't think I, for example, would have loved to skipped the hassle of shipping my cards in twice?  Of course I would have.  The issue is - I have my card already, and that means I will HAVE to pay to ship it twice.  If EVGA allows those who don't have their cards yet to jump straight over to a Ti step up, it means YOU dont have to pay twice for shipping.  But I still do.  It's not MY fault you are all still in a queue for your cards.  But now those of us with completed upgrades need to pay?  No thank you.  If they offer a free shipping label for us, then I'm all for it.  If not, then everyone has to pay, because we all signed up for the same program.
 
I know that's all going to come off as super entitled sounding, but I mean...it's true.  We were all in the same line.  We all have the same rules.





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You know what UPS charges for sending a gfxcard to evga eu? 110 euro. 10 more the whole icx upgrade costs. How fair is that!? (Yes iknow there are cheaper ways to send it but this is a good example as evga recommends UPS).
 
I dont care if i have to wait months for the TI but i dont need the huge cost and hassle of sending in a card twice. 
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Re: real talk: pls streamline process for ICX upgraders to step up to 1080ti 2017/03/07 11:12:45 (permalink)
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LOL, no. :)
 
The very problem is that, in a case when one does not want to step-up or upgrade, you can sell your old card with some loss and buy a new one regularly.
 
This time tho, EVGA messed up the whole production line and that made resale value for their 1080 line - trash. Doesn't matter if your card may survive the heat or last long, it's simple the problem of loosing one upgrade path: selling a card for a reasonable amount and buying a new one. A 750 FTW would be worth maybe 500, but with the cooling fiasco it's worth how much? Can you sell a "will burn up in flames any moment"-card to anyone?
 
Now, the ICX is 100 more on the price, which MUST include something, especially since 1080Ti is the very same price as old FTWs now. You'd have to pay 100 for ICX then 100 for the Ti. Might as well bought Titans for 1200 at that rate and not bother with all the hassle being a result of customers trusting EVGA not to mess up "bigly" as they did.




 'There's no burning up in flames' card. That's an internet myth invented by folks that should know better. No offense, but you're you're adding to the problem by repeating it. It's unfortunate that the herd mentality viral nature of the internet turns these rare incidents into OMGWTBBQ every EVGA 10 series card is like an old road flare waiting to explode. It is unfortunate, but that isn't EVGA's fault either.




Ohhh really!? My card went up in smoke and sparks two weeks after a got it. Im i a internet myth also? It also happened to a guy in my gaming clan. Are we both internets myths maybe!?! 

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