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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/18 06:45:02 (permalink)
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This is a funny thread.  I owned a Titan and a GTX 780 Ti and for my setups, the 780 Ti performs better.  I am not a 4k gamer because, I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.  But in my opinion, if you want to play at 4k, get a Titan.  Once you spend that money, something better is on the horizon at a cheaper price.  That is a awesome setup and even if those Titans were 780 Ti's instead, it would still be an awesome setup.  So you got a 4k gaming with Titans.  Nice!  You got bragging rights.  When I play BF4 or COD or whatever game I chose to play, I get good performance with either my Titan or 780 Ti.

So saying that a Original Titan is king is not fully true.  It certain setups, yes.  But in other setups, no.  So if you are going to run big screens with big res, yeah the Titan is a good decision.  If you are running a 1080p setup, then 780 Ti would probably be the smarter choice.  This kind of reminds me of the big truck with a little man inside.  Hehe!!


If your going to game at 4k.......there is no single card with the needed nuts to run that resolution smoothly. As stated you would need 4 GTX 780 Ti's or 4 Titans to get the same smooth performance at 4k as a single Titan or 780 Ti would run on a single 1080p monitor.
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/18 15:44:37 (permalink)
Ordered my Titan Black yesterday, should have it tomorrow/the day after.
Bought it simply because the 780 ti's 3gb memory is (Word deleted for foul language) stupid. It should have a minimum of 4 since more and more next gen games are breaching the 3gb threshold.
post edited by XrayMan - 2014/03/18 22:00:50
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/19 07:42:25 (permalink)
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/nvidia-gtx-titan-black-v-palit-gtx780-ti-jetstream-oc-1080p-1600p-and-4k/
 
  This is why the Titan is not "King" or worth the extra $300 under most circumstances...........even at 4k resolutions on games like BF4, the Titan still doesn't out perform a 780 Ti even with twice the Vram. A few people with 4k triple monitor setups are also finding out the same concluysion over at OC.net as well.
 
  Titan ='s waste of money for most home/media/game users..........
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/19 07:47:06 (permalink)
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Ordered my Titan Black yesterday, should have it tomorrow/the day after.
Bought it simply because the 780 ti's 3gb memory is (Word deleted for foul language) stupid. It should have a minimum of 4 since more and more next gen games are breaching the 3gb threshold.


The only thing that's stupid is the comment you made. Read above article and link. You paid $300 more for potentially less performance long term. Get back to this thread when you can finally post a review that shows the 3gb limiting performance on a 780 Ti in comparison to a Titan.  ;)
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/19 12:15:55 (permalink)
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/20 02:47:54 (permalink)
Is this a "how to play safe thread" or what? 

I use 3 Titans in my rig clocked at 1340/7200 i have no problem while playing in 4k. ( i used a 4k monitor on a event )
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/20 15:51:58 (permalink)
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http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/nvidia-gtx-titan-black-v-palit-gtx780-ti-jetstream-oc-1080p-1600p-and-4k/   This is why the Titan is not "King" or worth the extra $300 under most circumstances...........even at 4k resolutions on games like BF4, the Titan still doesn't out perform a 780 Ti even with twice the Vram. A few people with 4k triple monitor setups are also finding out the same concluysion over at OC.net as well.   Titan ='s waste of money for most home/media/game users..........


Lol.. You seriously have no idea of what you're saying. Who else, other than me, has 4K surround? Not a single person I know - 3gb VRAM on 4k surround isn't enough. Even 6gb isn't enough. The GTX 780ti can't even run any game on MY setup (4K surround) unless you set everything on medium/low. The Titan runs it well with most setting on high and some maxed out (no AA).

Where were we? Oh, that's right. The Titan is still King. XD

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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/20 16:36:57 (permalink)
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http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/nvidia-gtx-titan-black-v-palit-gtx780-ti-jetstream-oc-1080p-1600p-and-4k/   This is why the Titan is not "King" or worth the extra $300 under most circumstances...........even at 4k resolutions on games like BF4, the Titan still doesn't out perform a 780 Ti even with twice the Vram. A few people with 4k triple monitor setups are also finding out the same concluysion over at OC.net as well.   Titan ='s waste of money for most home/media/game users..........


Lol.. You seriously have no idea of what you're saying. Who else, other than me, has 4K surround? Not a single person I know - 3gb VRAM on 4k surround isn't enough. Even 6gb isn't enough. The GTX 780ti can't even run any game on MY setup (4K surround) unless you set everything on medium/low. The Titan runs it well with most setting on high and some maxed out (no AA).

Where were we? Oh, that's right. The Titan is still King. XD

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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/20 16:52:20 (permalink)
And why still spend money on such configuration when no max details and AA, only because resolution??? Why is not enough some 2560x1440 with max details, AA and 100fps until new cheaper 4K monitors show up and until NVIDIA present Maxwell refresh or Volta to give more performance for such configuration?

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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/20 16:55:30 (permalink)
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http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/nvidia-gtx-titan-black-v-palit-gtx780-ti-jetstream-oc-1080p-1600p-and-4k/   This is why the Titan is not "King" or worth the extra $300 under most circumstances...........even at 4k resolutions on games like BF4, the Titan still doesn't out perform a 780 Ti even with twice the Vram. A few people with 4k triple monitor setups are also finding out the same concluysion over at OC.net as well.   Titan ='s waste of money for most home/media/game users..........


Lol.. You seriously have no idea of what you're saying. Who else, other than me, has 4K surround? Not a single person I know - 3gb VRAM on 4k surround isn't enough. Even 6gb isn't enough. The GTX 780ti can't even run any game on MY setup (4K surround) unless you set everything on medium/low. The Titan runs it well with most setting on high and some maxed out (no AA).

Where were we? Oh, that's right. The Titan is still King. XD

The problem is, as even you admitted is that the Titan is a flawed product. To run really good frame rates on just a single 4k screen, you need 4 of them.........just for a single screen to equal a single GTX 780 ti running a single 1080p screen. But 3 4k screens? I wouldn't waste my time or money on Titans. $4,000 just to get "ok" frame rates on 4k surround screens? No thanks...........as stated previously we are a few generations worth of cards away from that type of graphics power.
 
   You are right though......6gb for 3 4k screens is not enough. For proper scale the Titans should have come with 12gigs worth of RAM for surround 4k screens.
 
  In reality the Titan is far from "King". Its an overly expensive product that just isn't up to task that you are potentially putting it at.
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/20 16:57:20 (permalink)
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And why still spend money on such configuration when no max details and AA, only because resolution??? Why is not enough some 2560x1440 with max details, AA and 100fps until new cheaper 4K monitors show up and until NVIDIA present Maxwell refresh or Volta to give more performance for such configuration?


THe next generation Maxwell isn't going to have real 4k power either. You really think a new high end Maxwell GPU will have the power equal to 4 GK110's? LOL! Dreaming.
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/21 00:17:42 (permalink)
First of to help op, you don't need AA when gaming at that res cuz you can't spot the difference between aa and no aa.

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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/21 05:42:01 (permalink)
My 2x760s do that SLI surround over 100 fps in F1 2012 with 4x SLI AA. I run 327.23 drivers mixed with the new PhysX and new experience 1.81 to keep the drivers optimized with out using the unstable new ones.
What drivers are those ? mine are on 40in 55in 40in set up. I can run 3 40 inchers but I like the 55in in the middle.
 
5760x1080p with over 9 feet off screen. I do prefer landscape.
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/21 08:29:03 (permalink)
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And why still spend money on such configuration when no max details and AA, only because resolution??? Why is not enough some 2560x1440 with max details, AA and 100fps until new cheaper 4K monitors show up and until NVIDIA present Maxwell refresh or Volta to give more performance for such configuration?


THe next generation Maxwell isn't going to have real 4k power either. You really think a new high end Maxwell GPU will have the power equal to 4 GK110's? LOL! Dreaming.


He didn't say that at all, he's just saying Maxwell will bring more realistic 4K gaming capabilities than what Kepler has provided. 2-way or 3-way Maxwell will likely be able to play 4K better. I had 3-way TITAN SLI and it wasn't worth it for even 5760x1080/120hz. I'm back to single card/single monitor gaming until this Fall/Winter.

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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/21 09:45:32 (permalink)
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And why still spend money on such configuration when no max details and AA, only because resolution??? Why is not enough some 2560x1440 with max details, AA and 100fps until new cheaper 4K monitors show up and until NVIDIA present Maxwell refresh or Volta to give more performance for such configuration?


THe next generation Maxwell isn't going to have real 4k power either. You really think a new high end Maxwell GPU will have the power equal to 4 GK110's? LOL! Dreaming.


He didn't say that at all, he's just saying Maxwell will bring more realistic 4K gaming capabilities than what Kepler has provided. 2-way or 3-way Maxwell will likely be able to play 4K better. I had 3-way TITAN SLI and it wasn't worth it for even 5760x1080/120hz. I'm back to single card/single monitor gaming until this Fall/Winter.


I understand, I don't believe that even Maxwell in 2-3 or even 4 way sli will be worth it for 4k surround........the nuts in reality just aren't going to be there for another 2-3 years or even a year or so longer by calculations......
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/21 14:59:22 (permalink)
Just be happy with what you have.
There is no "King".
GTX Titan vs 780ti is basically a wash. The differences are negligible; check out the link below. It's dated 3/20/2014. Probably the most accurate comparison/review of both cards.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/a...80-ti-sli_4.html#sect3
 
Example is BF4 performance below.
2560 x 1440 maxed settings:
identical overclocks
Titan= Min. fps(43)/Max. fps(56)
780ti= Min. fps(40)/Max. fps(59)
 


 
So close, Titan actually comes ahead in some games at 2560 x 1440. Again, it's nearly even.


 
780ti comes out by a hair, but it's expected for fully unlocked cores, but we're talking miniscule points. The Titan line is impressive. It is no "King", but it is special; it's like a collector's edition; not worth the value, but you get some extra's. In this case--> more memory.

 
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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/21 22:19:04 (permalink)
Well something I hate to point out is that the quality and capability of the cards are not getting better. You can see the difference between 500s and 600s and the SLI just got better between 500s and 600s. And the speed got better between them and so did the power and Graphics. NVidia is breaking the pattern they started with the 200s. Where is the 790? What's happening with the SLI Surround. New Drivers are not any better then the old. In fact they cant even do what the old drivers can do. 6 Months ago Drivers are not being supported? why?
 
If any body can do SLI Surround with 3 TVs and computer monitors that are different brands but same res and Hz doesn't even have to be same size just res and Hz. I would buy you a new game. I can do all that with 327.23 drivers. But not the new drivers can't even do it at all.  I really want someone to prove me wrong please.


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Re: The GTX-Titan is Still King! 2014/03/22 06:10:18 (permalink)
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First of to help op, you don't need AA when gaming at that res cuz you can't spot the difference between aa and no aa.




Exacly! good grief if i needed AA at 2560x1600! i would not play a single modern game at native resolution.
 
either way most games at native res do not need AA! but the placebo effect that people actually think they would notice the difference is strong.. so they turn it on and.. goodbye stable FPS
 
AA is mainly for playing at non native resolutions.
 
recently installed far cry 3 can play it on ultra (dx11) with minor changes on the msaa option ( cant turn it off apparently) but i can play with no lag!  i play it between 30 to 40'ish FPs depending on scenario.
 and I AM ENJOYING THE GAME by the way! awesome graphic effects... awesome tropical realistic scenarios..
 
 
i am very happy with my gfx! and i know i cannot have better amount of FPS due to my Cpu.
i am just scoring 21200 in 3d mark with my gfx ( very low indeed)cause i should be hitting at least 36000.
 
BUT hey the future resolutions seems to be 4K and insane 8K res already available by Sharp so...  cannot stop the evolution train.
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