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Ntrain96

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Most people thought the wind was kicked out of the Titan w/ the release of the GTX-780 Ti.
 
Although now the Titan Black is out (which is the best GK110 out there), the 'vanilla' Titan (SC etc.) is still the king.
 
Why?
 
This is why! (4K Portrait Surround FTW!) 
 

 

 

 

 
With just 3-Way SLI and every setting maxed out (No AA), F1 2013 still is around 100 FPS! 
 

 
No GTX-780 Ti can hope to run this resolution.
 
Q.E.D.

A GTX 780 Ti will do everything a Titan can at 4k resolution. Even with half the vram. Benchmarks show that.  That extra Vram isn't going to really add anything much in terms of raw fps, even with 2 card SLI.

Are you high brother?! :D
I would buy the Titan over the GTX 780 Ti every day in the week!! 

Op nice setup!

 
No Im not, a Titan and a 780 Ti have 0 differences in performance for games. And I wouldn't waste the extra $300 or so bucks just for an extra 3 gig of vram PER CARD. Think about it. $300 more for basically 3 gigs of RAM that only costs the mfg a few bucks. Worthless. By the time 3gigs of vram becomes a true bottleneck for one or 2 cards in sli the gpu or gpus itself will already be showing its age in its raw performance. It's going to be another generation or 2 before GPU's get that powerful to really take advantage of that amount of RAM for games and general home user use.
 
   And this generation GPU(GK110)for 4k resolution? A single 4k monitor is an 8 megapixel display. Vs 1080p which is a 2 megapixel display. So to run just a single 4k display you would need 4 Titans to equal the performance of a single 780 Ti at 1080p in reality. And you would effectively be doing that with HALF the vram memory(6 divided by 4 ='s 1.5gig per GPU in effect)of a single 780 Ti with 3 gigs on a 1080p display.
 
   So in reality the Titan doesn't make a lot of sense for 4k displays even though its the best option right now if your going to run more than 2 cards. But for 4 titans on a 4k display to equal the performance of a single 780 Ti on a 1080p display keeping memory scaling in tact with gpu scaling they should have given it 12gigs of Vram.

Ntrain96
 
No Im not, a Titan and a 780 Ti have 0 differences in performance for games. And I wouldn't waste the extra $600 or so bucks just for an extra 3 gig of vram. Think about it. $600 more for basically 3 gigs of RAM that only costs the mfg a few bucks. Worthless. By the time 3gigs of vram becomes a true bottleneck for one or 2 cards in sli the gpu or gpus itself will already be showing its age in its raw performance. It's going to be another generation or 2 before GPU's get that powerful to really take advantage of that amount of RAM for games and general home user use.

Wait until you hit the 3GB VRAM wall running 4K. You'll be wishing you had bought a 6GB Titan then. 

Ntrain96

Sajin

Ntrain96
 
No Im not, a Titan and a 780 Ti have 0 differences in performance for games. And I wouldn't waste the extra $600 or so bucks just for an extra 3 gig of vram. Think about it. $600 more for basically 3 gigs of RAM that only costs the mfg a few bucks. Worthless. By the time 3gigs of vram becomes a true bottleneck for one or 2 cards in sli the gpu or gpus itself will already be showing its age in its raw performance. It's going to be another generation or 2 before GPU's get that powerful to really take advantage of that amount of RAM for games and general home user use.

Wait until you hit the 3GB VRAM wall running 4K. You'll be wishing you had bought a 6GB Titan then. 

I wouldn't even try to run a single or even a pair of Titans or 780's on a 4k screen. The GPU's just aren't that strong. I run a pair of 780's on a single 1080p 144hz screen. Im upgrading to the 780 Ti's, because even a pair of 780's in SLI don't allow for max settings on all games with minimum FPS in the 50-60fps range. A pair of 780 Ti's though are able to just barely accomplish that. This generation of GPU's are still best for 1080p.
 
   When you can actually run a pair of GPU's at 4k and keep minimum frame rates at 60fps with settings maxed then I'll look at upgrading to a higher resolution screen. A titan or a pair of titans(or 780 Ti's)just don't have the horsepower for 4k. Again still a few GPU generations away from that.
 
     So no I wont be wishing I had a 6gb Titan when that time comes..........when that time comes the Titan will be very old news and old tech. ;)

Right this second you can use over 3GB of VRAM when running 4K on certain games. What happens when you hit that 3GB VRAM wall running 3x 780 ti's... you experience lots of hitching and stuttering as textures are being swapped from main memory. Won't occur when running 3x Titan or Titan Black.

Herro what are you talking about? I have 4 30" and surround Portrait mode is KING

Sajin

Ntrain96

Sajin

Ntrain96
 
No Im not, a Titan and a 780 Ti have 0 differences in performance for games. And I wouldn't waste the extra $600 or so bucks just for an extra 3 gig of vram. Think about it. $600 more for basically 3 gigs of RAM that only costs the mfg a few bucks. Worthless. By the time 3gigs of vram becomes a true bottleneck for one or 2 cards in sli the gpu or gpus itself will already be showing its age in its raw performance. It's going to be another generation or 2 before GPU's get that powerful to really take advantage of that amount of RAM for games and general home user use.

Wait until you hit the 3GB VRAM wall running 4K. You'll be wishing you had bought a 6GB Titan then. 

I wouldn't even try to run a single or even a pair of Titans or 780's on a 4k screen. The GPU's just aren't that strong. I run a pair of 780's on a single 1080p 144hz screen. Im upgrading to the 780 Ti's, because even a pair of 780's in SLI don't allow for max settings on all games with minimum FPS in the 50-60fps range. A pair of 780 Ti's though are able to just barely accomplish that. This generation of GPU's are still best for 1080p.
 
   When you can actually run a pair of GPU's at 4k and keep minimum frame rates at 60fps with settings maxed then I'll look at upgrading to a higher resolution screen. A titan or a pair of titans(or 780 Ti's)just don't have the horsepower for 4k. Again still a few GPU generations away from that.
 
     So no I wont be wishing I had a 6gb Titan when that time comes..........when that time comes the Titan will be very old news and old tech. ;)

Right this second you can use over 3GB of VRAM when running 4K on certain games. What happens when you hit that 3GB VRAM wall running 3x 780 ti's... you experience lots of hitching and stuttering as textures are being swapped from main memory. Won't occur when running 3x Titan or Titan Black.

 
Now we are talking more than 2 cards.
 
       3 cards or 4 cards is probably the only case where I can see the Titan's 6 gigs of RAM coming into some use on some games currently at 4k resolutions, but even 6gigs of VRAM might not be enough...... see a previous post of mine above on this page. I personally though would never spend $3k or double the cost of a pair of 780 Ti's just to adequately run a flawed 60hz 4k monitor setup. When I can have nearly the same motion resolution and much better performance overall running a higher refresh rate 1080p monitor.  Even 1440p monitors today really push the limits of the current GPU's.  High resolution is worthless on games if you can get high frame rates.
 
   3 gigs is plenty for 1 or 2 cards at 1080p, now and 2-3 years from now most likely too. As it stands nothing even comes close to bottlenecking a pair of Nvidia cards in sli with 2 or 3 gigs of RAM.
 
 
 
  

There is just so much to quote here so i just make a post instead, First of i would buy a vanilla Titan over the 780 Ti any day. 

Reasons why : 

1. 6GB vram 
2. Unlocked volt controller
3. The name Titan epic.. 

When it comes to gaming with the Titans and different monitors it's like this,

I use around 3-3,5 Gb vram in skyrim ( modded ofc ) inside a house and hit about 4 Gb when outside and that's in 1080p will the 780 Ti make it no..

Crysis 3 running at max settings 1080p 2,3-2,5 Gb fine
Crysis 3 running max settings 1440p 2,9~ Gb
Crysis 3 running max settings 1600p 3-3,4 Gb 780 Ti will not make it 
Crysis 3 running max settings 4k , 5760x1080p , 7680x1440p/1600p 780 Ti will not make it

BF4 running  4k , 5760x1080p , 7680x1440p/1600p  res at max will use around 2,9-3,1 Gb 

So now to the conclusion

GTX 780 Ti will be fine while running 2560x1600p or below if you want to play all games at MAX with AA

Titan will be fine in any conditions. 

I'm running 4 way Titan sli in my main rig and it's needed since i use 3 monitors and i managed to use 5-5,5 Vram in Cod Ghost and Crysis 3 along with some other games.

So my personal opinion is that Op is just right!

(((((((((( No Im not, a Titan and a 780 Ti have 0 differences in performance for games. And I wouldn't waste the extra $300 or so bucks just for an extra 3 gig of vram PER CARD. Think about it. $300 more for basically 3 gigs of RAM that only costs the mfg a few bucks. Worthless. By the time 3gigs of vram becomes a true bottleneck for one or 2 cards in sli the gpu or gpus itself will already be showing its age in its raw performance. It's going to be another generation or 2 before GPU's get that powerful to really take advantage of that amount of RAM for games and general home user use.))))))))))
 


It's not the GPU which is bottlenecking the vram it's the memory Bus Width.

Who is gaming in 4K?
Nobody.
Why?
It's ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous?
Because true 4K monitors still cost $3,000 and have junk refresh rates and GTG response times that's why.
 
There is no "King" GPU or Sports car or anything for that matter, it's all opinion
 
It's all about what you want to do with it and how much money you've got to blow on said useless activity that only we care about
 
Also it's about sword-fighting on an internet forum
 
Cheers everyone
780 Ti for life BRA

more ignorance on display. 
 
The Titan (Black) is still "king" because a 780 Ti, any edition, cannot run games maxed out even at 4K, let alone 4K Surround. 
 
Did some of you not see that this is 4K SURROUND, not just 4K? lol.. comparing 4K to 1080P? Right, next you will tell me a Camaro is "better" than an Enzo. 
 
TN panels are garbage - this setup is 3x Dell UP2414Q - 60Hz IPS 4K panels - better than their IGZO counterparts. 
 

shadowboricua
With 60 Hz; why do you even want more than 60 fps?

depends on the game engine, with some games 60fps is fine, but with other games I found 100+ fps smoother.

Yes please tell me more about my ignorance, while proving my point hahahaha
Still sword fighting me?

I trolled you and it worked, but seriously, look at the refresh rates and response times
For gaming especially, this does not cut it. Especially at the going rate of $1149 per monitor. 
4K with monitors running at 60Hz and 8MS response time will not sit well with actual gamers.
 
I'm sorry, as I said it's all about opinion and how much you want to spend on something other people may see as a waste of money.
 
Diagonally Viewable Size:
60.47 cm
23.8" (23.8-inch wide viewable image size)
Aspect Ratio:
Widescreen (16:9)
Panel Type, Surface:
In-plane switching, anti glare with hard coat 3H
Optimal resolution:
3840 x 2160[link=javascript:void(0)]¹[/link] at 60 Hz (DP1.2)
3840 x 2160[link=javascript:void(0)]¹[/link] at 30 Hz HDMI
Contrast Ratio:
1000: 1 (typical)
2 Million:1 (Max) (Dynamic Contrast Ratio)
Brightness:
350 cd/m² (typical)
Response Time:
8 ms (gray to gray)
 
 

Yes it all comes down to the fundamental fact of diminishing returns, spending $4000 on monitors and $4000 on video cards and another $2000 on the rest of the Rig you're already at $10,000 (maybe more) for a setup that most people will say is either "WHOA, nice" or "a complete waste", it's for you to decide personally
 
The extra money vs quality of the image/gaming you get doesn't scale well, ever. It might be awesome like OP's setup, but how practical is it really?
It's not for everyone that's for sure
 
It's all about opinion guys, if you've got more money than you need, by all means get it, set it up and post it for me to look at and give you an internet high five
I prefer a single 1ms GTG, 144Hz+ monitor with g-sync for gaming, for very different reasons than yours 

Miguell
like i said. i dont find it practical due to the gaps between the displays.
also the imagem does not seem right!
 
but hey this sure looks cool!!
 
i also prefer a single solo BIG screen.
 
ALL ii know is when my apple monitor dies. is gonna be a 400€ one. and 1080P  for sure!
 
but 4 K is just... too high.. even for titans...
and 8K is ... well i dont even know why sharp released such screen...
 
to be honest.. i would buy it if i could.. a 85 inch 8k Screen FOR ultra HD gaming!

Like I said, it would take 4 Titans at 4k to equal the performance of ONE 780 Ti running at 1080p. And those 4 Titans would effectively only have half the memory(1.5gig per card in effect) at 4k that a single 780 Ti would have on hand for its own memory allocation and utilization.

still like mine, haven't found a single reason to change to something else lol
all these fps comparison charts are not entirely non-bias
even evga's site doesn't have the correct clock speeds of the card. (it's higher) 1006
 
140+ FPS BF4 on Ultra Vsync off 1920x1080 @144hz on 1 27" ASUS 144hz 1ms display
 
but we know that game and areas of maps causing fps drops due to bad coding of the game. 78fps was my lowest framerate in a bad map spike on a single card

Drerex
This is a funny thread.  I owned a Titan and a GTX 780 Ti and for my setups, the 780 Ti performs better.  I am not a 4k gamer because, I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.  But in my opinion, if you want to play at 4k, get a Titan.  Once you spend that money, something better is on the horizon at a cheaper price.  That is a awesome setup and even if those Titans were 780 Ti's instead, it would still be an awesome setup.  So you got a 4k gaming with Titans.  Nice!  You got bragging rights.  When I play BF4 or COD or whatever game I chose to play, I get good performance with either my Titan or 780 Ti.

So saying that a Original Titan is king is not fully true.  It certain setups, yes.  But in other setups, no.  So if you are going to run big screens with big res, yeah the Titan is a good decision.  If you are running a 1080p setup, then 780 Ti would probably be the smarter choice.  This kind of reminds me of the big truck with a little man inside.  Hehe!!

I agree, Titan's are great but they are a waste of money if you don't throw them at the right setup.