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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/27 12:15:07 (permalink)
It will work but not be as fast as a newer high speed bridge.

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/27 14:54:26 (permalink)
So you have to buy them from evga or nvidia separately?

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/27 15:02:11 (permalink)
as of 2 hours ago, I couldn't find anyone that has a new HB bridge forsale. The Nvidia web page for the 1080 has the bridge about 2/3 of the way down the multi-page display. As of right now it has a button that says 'notify me' just like the 1080 above it had until 9am et this morning. EVGA support has said 'maybe'. 
 
Please post in the forum if you find someone with HB bridges forsale.
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/27 15:50:49 (permalink)
Another NVIDIA fail, advertising the new SLI bridge for Pascal and then not having it available for sale at launch..

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/27 16:27:52 (permalink)

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 13:25:45 (permalink)
I have read that the older bridges will work and that 3way SLI will work as well. Nvidia will be supplying a "Key" to purchasers of the 1080 that will "Unlock" the higher bandwidths to older bridges. To run 3 way the new dx12 will make this possible because it allows for the use of AMD and Nvidia cars at the same time. But almost no game will have support for such configurations and it will be tottaly up to the user for optimization.
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 13:30:54 (permalink)
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I have read that the older bridges will work and that 3way SLI will work as well. Nvidia will be supplying a "Key" to purchasers of the 1080 that will "Unlock" the higher bandwidths to older bridges. To run 3 way the new dx12 will make this possible because it allows for the use of AMD and Nvidia cars at the same time. But almost no game will have support for such configurations and it will be tottaly up to the user for optimization.


I thought the key was to enable 3 and 4 way SLI. I didn't know this had something to do with the bridges themselves.

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 13:36:06 (permalink)
I'm currently looking for the article. I just read that the key will enable 3 way sli but I know for certain the article I read yesterday stated that it would allow for the LED bridge to run the high bandwidth as well.
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 13:44:35 (permalink)
pcworld.com/article/3071332/hardware/its-true-nvidias-geforce-gtx-1080-officially-supports-only-2-way-sli-setups.html
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 14:43:10 (permalink)
Yes, I see what you mean. The key increases the current LED bridges to 650.

So does this mean if I run 2 cards that I will need to get the key if I am using a current EVGA or Asus SLI LED bridge with the 1080s?

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 14:46:58 (permalink)
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Yes, I see what you mean. The key increases the current LED bridges to 650.

So does this mean if I run 2 cards that I will need to get the key if I am using a current EVGA or Asus SLI LED bridge with the 1080s?

I am fairly certain this is inaccurate.  The Key only allows people that want to go beyond 2-way SLI to do so.  So anyone one that wants to do 3 or 4 way SLI.  The speed of the bridge is dictated by the design of the bridge itself.  The new high speed bridges are not released yet it seems.  Older bridges will work and some might do ok but none of them will be able to do the higher speeds like the new HB SLI bridges.

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 14:54:23 (permalink)
I have read conflicting information about this. The link cited suggests the key allows older bridges to run at 650, not 400. I have read other articles suggesting the older SLI LED bridges will run at 650 without mention of the key as you suggest.

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 15:19:28 (permalink)
Yeah it is not too clear.   I guess we will need someone from Nvidia or EVGA to clarify this since there is mixed information.  I suspect that the newer EVGA LED bridges will have a higher transfer rate that the older ones per the EVGA tech but not be equivalent to the new HB ones.  This really should have all been sorted out and put out there so when people are buying very expensive cards for SLI they have the proper information and in this case the proper SLI bridge to maximize performance.

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 15:57:47 (permalink)
I think this may be related, but not 100% sure, here's the story:
 
I noticed that whenever I turned on "TAA" in a game like Fallout 4 or Eve online, my FPS would drop down and seem to be capped at 40 fps. even when the GPU was under fairly low load. and This topic got me thinking: is it a SLI bandwidth limit? does the TAA effect greatly increase the bandwidth needed by SLI? so I did some testing.
 
3 way SLI flexable bridge: rarely goes above at 40ish FPS in eve online with TAA on at 3840x2160
SLI off, single card: gets 60 FPS pretty steady under same conditions
SLI 2 way, using EVGA 2 way long LED SLI bridge: around 50ish FPS, varies a lot
SLI 2 way, using EVGA 2/3 way LED SLI bridge: steady 60 FPS
 
based on these results, I think I can say a few things:
TAA greatly increases the needed bandwidth for SLI bridges
Flexible bridges have the lowest bandwidth
EVGA's 2 way SLI LED bridges have higher bandwidth
EVGA's 3 way SLI LED bridges that can be used 2 way have even higher bandwidth, at least when used in 2 way configs
 
Don't however know the numbers for that, or if the Nvidia HB SLI bridge is that much higher than the 2/3 way bridge I used, but it seems that there is a difference between current bridges even on my GTX 980s under some conditions.
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 17:48:40 (permalink)
same speed does not = same thruput.
 
same as a 2 cards. both with 1.5mhz clocks. but one has a 128 byte bus and the other has a 256byte bus.  the wider bus will (theoretically) pass twice as much data per tick (for those applications which can fill the bus).
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 19:05:57 (permalink)
FYI the HB SLI 2-way bridge takes up both SLI slots on the card...    I don't think anyone has tested the cards in a 3-way setup to see if it works, at least my google searches turned up nothing but just a 2-way SLI test.
 


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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 23:21:35 (permalink)
EK water blocks will not support the new HB bridge ......bummer
 
so what to do, wait to see if someone else make a water block that allows you to use the HB bridge? 
 
or water cool with the standard bridge and then over-clock my 2 cards?
 
will the HB bridge really make much difference?  not much use if i cant overclock my 2 cards. They easy hit 2000mhz but temps soon rise on standard ref cooling
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 23:24:10 (permalink)
I use slot 1 and slot 3 they are both x16 slots does this bridge allow me to use these slots?
 
I dont really want to be using slot 1 and 2 as slot 2 is a x8 slot
 
looking at the pic at the beginning of this post it looks as if you have to use the first 2 slots.
 
That said before now i have used a 3 way bridge on 2 cards to give me the spacing to use slot 1 and 3 and it appears to work fine? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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FYI the HB SLI 2-way bridge takes up both SLI slots on the card...    I don't think anyone has tested the cards in a 3-way setup to see if it works, at least my google searches turned up nothing but just a 2-way SLI test.
 





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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/28 23:31:20 (permalink)
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I use slot 1 and slot 3 they are both x16 slots does this bridge allow me to use these slots?
 
I dont really want to be using slot 1 and 2 as slot 2 is a x8 slot
 
looking at the pic at the beginning of this post it looks as if you have to use the first 2 slots.
 
That said before now i have used a 3 way bridge on 2 cards to give me the spacing to use slot 1 and 3 and it appears to work fine? 


3 bridges.

One is for 2 slot spacing.

One is for 3 slot spacing.

One is for 4 slot spacing.

Order the one that fits your board. There is at least 2 times in this thread where it has been posted showing this. Don't focus solely on the last picture posted.
No, you don't have to order and use the single slot bridge and be forced to use slot one and two, unless you order the single slot bridge.

If you order the correct bridge, depending on what motherboard you have, you will continue to use slot 1 and 3.

As a matter of fact, go to post one. It shows the 3 bridges. These are all 2 way, just the spacing changes.
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/29 01:36:24 (permalink)
ok
 
so how about not being able to use these HB briges with EK water blocks? not sure why this is but EK site clearly states they wont work with their blocks
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/29 01:52:10 (permalink)
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ok
 
so how about not being able to use these HB briges with EK water blocks? not sure why this is but EK site clearly states they wont work with their blocks


Not sure how ek locks dont fit this. If so sound like people are going to find a new wb company.
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/29 06:17:24 (permalink)
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andest2003
ok
 
so how about not being able to use these HB briges with EK water blocks? not sure why this is but EK site clearly states they wont work with their blocks


Not sure how ek locks dont fit this. If so sound like people are going to find a new wb company.



Aquacomputer has confirmed their GTX1080 blocks are compatible with the new HB bridge:
 
https://forum.aquacompute...f-r-gtx-1080-und-1070/
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/29 06:22:26 (permalink)

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/29 11:52:12 (permalink)
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ok
 
so how about not being able to use these HB briges with EK water blocks? not sure why this is but EK site clearly states they wont work with their blocks




 
I'm really not happy about this. I love EK blocks and was all set to get a couple. But I also want whatever benefits will come from using the HB bridge.
 
Will there be alternative HB bridges that would fit? Like will EVGA be producing their own version of the bridge?
 
Or alternatively, what other brand water blocks will work with the HB bridge? I see above someone mentioned Aquacomputer blocks work with the bridge, but I have never really been a fan of those. Come to think of it I really only like EK blocks, but I guess I could switch if I have to. Any one hear anything from other companies regarding this?

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/29 17:58:56 (permalink)
Now the question is when will they be available for sale? As I stated before they should of been available at the GTX 1080 launch. Which I got 2 of them.

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/29 23:31:31 (permalink)
The EK blocks are available friday however i will wait now as i want to also be able to use the HB bridge
 
Something will have to change either a HB design that will fit or EK (Deleted for Foul Language). a bit of a poor show they wont work with the HB bridges 
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/31 12:26:25 (permalink)
Looks like EVGA is showing the new HB SLI bridge at Computex!
 
https://twitter.com/EVGA_...tus/737537768117538816

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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/31 19:06:06 (permalink)
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Looks like EVGA is showing the new HB SLI bridge at Computex!
https://twitter.com/EVGA_...tus/737537768117538816



Let's hope these are compatible with the EK blocks. I'd rather get the EVGA bridge anyway.
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/31 20:23:24 (permalink)
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Looks like EVGA is showing the new HB SLI bridge at Computex!
 
https://twitter.com/EVGA_...tus/737537768117538816


I was checking the forums to see if that had been posted. It looks almost the same as the last bridge, which I really like.
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Re: Nvidia HB SLI Bridge 2016/05/31 20:53:56 (permalink)
I am currently using 2 single sli bridges on my GTX 1080 FE and they seems to work just fine. They are the LED version evga put out I don't know when.

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