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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/01/11 11:49:48 (permalink)
CoolGTX:  Thanks for that!
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/01/11 11:52:49 (permalink)
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Update: January 11, 2017
 
Well, it's deja vu all over again...
 
Took out the HD, plugged it into my "working" computer and formatted the drive.
Ran a couple of diagnostics on it and it checked out as good.
Re-installed back into the "new" computer and installed System 7 Ultimate on it.
I used a different source disk for S7 in case the first one had been corrupted - it's always worked well in the past, but lately, not so much.
It was looking good until I got online and attempted to update it.
It would not update at all, and now the computer with nothing more than S7 on it is crashing and getting BSOD crashes.
 
I am wondering if it might be another Motherboard issue. The CPU and the RAM have tested good in the past, but I have noticed a couple of bulging capacitors on the MB.
 
Looks like I'm going to have to start saving up for the new 1151 system.
 
 


Sorry to hear that. Time to start saving.
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/01/18 20:47:53 (permalink)
Update: January 18, 2017
 
Having lots of "fun" these days. 
 
"New" computer refuses update System 7 once it goes online after System install.
 
Old computer is showing new signs of weirdness...
 
A couple of days ago, I ran CCleaner on the C Drive.
Next I ran Defraggler to defrag the C drive - that took about 40 hours or so.
Benchmarking went from about 299 MBs to about 900 or so.
 
Since then, it is running so slow I can't stand it.
 
Today, I decided to reboot while I took a shower - still hadn't finished before I came out - estimated about 25 minutes to complete the reboot.
I checked the Resource Monitor and found the Q6600 running all 4 cores at 98%  -  ****???  That's with nothing running.
 
I just booted into Safe Mode with Networking to post this and things seem "normal". CPU is hardly ticking... as it should.
 
Also, something keeps turning off my anti-virus programs - AVG and Malwarebytes. - Neither of which have found any viruses beforehand.
 
The "New" computer has been running MemTest for the past 24 hours or so and has made 12 full passes without an error.
 
 
post edited by Sushihunter - 2017/01/18 20:58:54

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/01/18 21:06:50 (permalink)
Replace the HD or do a true Format of the drive and reinstall OS
 
Your description screams infection
 
Even if the driver are not up to date that should not turn your AVG and Malwarebytes OFF, with high CPU usage
 
The only thing Windows will run that truly kills (slows and eats resources) the PC is the Drive Index feature   ---> disable that puppy
 
That still does not explain the AV software being disabled
 
Did you run a scan in safe mode ? (with up to date signature files)  Scan for rootkits also
 
 
Step 1) Download and Run rkill    Best to download on a known clean machine and place on a USB
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/rkill/
 
excerpt:
RKill is a program that was developed at BleepingComputer.com that attempts to terminate known malware processes so that your normal security software can then run and clean your computer of infections. When RKill runs it will kill malware processes and then removes incorrect executable associations and fixes policies that stop us from using certain tools. When finished it will display a log file that shows the processes that were terminated while the program was running.
As RKill only terminates a program's running process, and does not delete any files, after running it you should not reboot your computer as any malware processes that are configured to start automatically will just be started again. Instead, after running RKill you should immediately scan your computer using some sort of anti-malware or anti-virus program so that the infections can be properly removed.
Below are a list of RKill download links using different filenames. We offer RKill under different filenames because some malware will not allow processes to run unless they have a certain filename. Therefore when attempting to run RKill, if a malware terminates it please try a different filename offered below.
For more information about RKill and to ask questions regarding how it should be used, please visit the support topic here:
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/01/18 21:26:55 (permalink)
Cool GTX:
 
Thanks for that!
 
Since posting, I've checked out a few of my regular websites - WOW!!!  I can't remember when my computer ran this fast!
One thing I forgot to mention: After seeing the CPU running at 98%, I checked the Networking. From what I could see, there was no activity there. Makes me wonder what the purpose of running the CPU that hard would be.
 
I'll d/l rkill and see what that has to say...
 
Thanks again!
 
post edited by Sushihunter - 2017/01/18 21:34:54

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/01/18 21:31:52 (permalink)
OK - Rkill found nothing.
 
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/01/24 05:36:52 (permalink)
Well, now I'm posting from my phone. ..

Tried to boot into safe mode and it failed to boot.

Repairs have so far failed to fix it.

Hopefully will have more to report later. ..

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/08 19:08:42 (permalink)
Update - February 8, 2017
 
I've been able to somewhat resurrect my computer by booting into Safe Mode with Networking - Won't boot normally now. But it will suddenly shut down without any warning. YouTube and Facebook videos seem to trigger the shut downs, not sure why.
 
I can leave it running for hours without a shut down as long as I don't have any web pages open.
 
Any way, I'm getting closer to buying a new bunch of parts to update my computer.
 
Since last here, the Z270X Motherboards have hit the market. I've been wanting to go with a Gigabyte MB for a while now and see no reason to change.
 
Here are links to what I am considering:
 
AORUS-Gaming Motherboards
 
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/AORUS-Gaming
 
Gaming-5
 http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-Z270X-Gaming-5-rev-10#kf
 
Gaming-K5
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-Z270X-Gaming-K5-rev-10#kf
 
Gaming-7
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-Z270X-Gaming-7-rev-10#kf
 
Gaming-K7
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-Z270X-Gaming-K7-rev-10#kf
 
 
Most likely I'll get one of the "5" boards, the "7" boards are getting a little too expensive, but still being considered.
Does anyone know what the "K" stands for in the model number?
 
I'll cover RAM and CPU in a future post...
 
post edited by Sushihunter - 2017/02/08 19:48:43

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/08 19:30:24 (permalink)
Thanks for the update. Don't know what the K stands for.
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/08 19:53:55 (permalink)
CPU and DDR4 RAM
 
INTEL® PENTIUM® Processor G4560 2CORE 3M Cache 3.50 GHz FC-LGA14C Retail Box Kaby Lake
http://www.ncix.com/detail/intel-pentium-processor-g4560-2core-de-138312.htm
 
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http://www.ncix.com/detail/g-skill-ripjaws-v-16gb-2x8gb-c4-116133.htm
 
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/08 21:12:36 (permalink)
 
I think the "K" stands for "Killer", but I'm not 100% sure. I know AMD "K" processors stood for "Kryptonite".  The Gigabyte K I'm not so sure.

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/08 21:39:30 (permalink)
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I think the "K" stands for "Killer", but I'm not 100% sure. I know AMD "K" processors stood for "Kryptonite".  The Gigabyte K I'm not so sure.




That's what I thought, but in checking the comparison charts - they both have Killer Network LAN connections, the 5K model has only Killer, but the 5 model has Killer and Intel LAN connections.

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/24 01:02:07 (permalink)
Update: February 24, 2017
 
Well, I pulled the trigger on my new system... sort of...
I ordered a new Intel G4560 Pentium CPU Kaby Lake (LGA1151) - $88.98 Can$ + 12% taxes for a total of $99.66
NCIX had 3 showing in stock, but someone beat me to them - they should have more in stock on March 3rd.
Not a problem, because I still have to save up for the Motherboard and RAM
 
I've pretty much decided on the Gigabyte Aorus Z270X Gaming 5 MB and 16GBs of G.Skill DDR4 RAM, just need to figure out which set is the best deal.
 
And now the stupid part of this report:
 
As you may be aware, I've been experiencing sudden shut-downs lately. Like every 10 or 15 minutes or so.
I thought that maybe I had a dust build-up in the CPU fan so I went to clean it out and discovered that two of the retention pins that hold the cooler to the CPU were loose.
Seems like heat had taken its toll over the years and they were brittle and broke. As luck would have it, I had an extra set... two sets in fact.
Cleaned the grease off the CPU and cooler, and cleaned all the dust out of the crevices and the fan blades and put it all back together with fresh pins and thermal grease.
Not easy with the tower case still in position and me leaning in from the sofa. But I figured it was better than disconnecting all the cables to lay it out flat on the coffee table.
As I only have one set of retention pins left, I ordered another 3 sets from China for about $3.15 Can$. They will take about a month to get here, maybe more depending on how the mail goes.
I just got a phone case the other day that took 107 days to get here, and a selfie stick that took 57 days.
 
Anyway, the computer is running better now, but still getting lots of BSoD crashes and lock-ups. It still hates playing videos on YouTube or Facebook and will often crash within seconds of trying.
 
As for my Bridge Computer - I've installed System 7 on it about 3 times now and it runs great until I plug in the network cable and connect to the outside world to update W7 - then it crashes and refuses to run. Seems to be a common problem these days. It really is looking like MS pushing people to Win 10 whether they like it or not. My installation disk has always worked well in the past, and I even tried another disk and got the same result.
 
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/24 01:35:30 (permalink)
Thanks for the update. I bet you're ready for this all to be over already.
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/25 11:43:17 (permalink)
Turning off hardware acceleration in your browser settings might help with the crashing when videos are played
 
I'd also suggest that you set your RAM's voltage manually in the BIOS, if set to auto - it could be adding to your instability woes
 
Mixing RAM sticks from two different companies is Never a good Idea.
 
IDE cables can be another point of failure.  I've had some that worked - most of the time - cause big stability issues, even reboots

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/26 14:03:42 (permalink)
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Turning off hardware acceleration in your browser settings might help with the crashing when videos are played
 
I'd also suggest that you set your RAM's voltage manually in the BIOS, if set to auto - it could be adding to your instability woes
 
Mixing RAM sticks from two different companies is Never a good Idea.
 
IDE cables can be another point of failure.  I've had some that worked - most of the time - cause big stability issues, even reboots




1- My video card does not have the option to turn off hardware acceleration.
 
2- Haven't tried this yet. Did play around with CPU voltage a while back - only increased CPU temperatures, didn't help stability.
 
     What voltage would you suggest?
 
3- I only have the 2 sticks of G.Skill RAM installed at the moment. The OCZ RAM was put into the "Bridge Computer" - each one has 4 GBs. Also, RAM has been thoroughly tested with MemTest86.
 
4-  No IDE drives in the computer. Had a couple a while back but removed them when I thought it might be the PSU that was failing. Didn't make any difference. Only have a single SATA C Drive installed. I do have 4 other SATA drives attached in a MediaSonic JBoD NAS box via USB 3 connection.
 
-- The crashes seem to indicate a failure of the video driver - It got worse since I did the last update. The video will go black, come back, go black again, sometimes 5 or 6 times before either crashing totally or fixing itself. Other times, the screen will simply freeze, and nothing short of punching the reset button on the case to reboot will fix it.
 
Every time I have updated the video drivers, I get them directly from EVGA and do a total clean install.
 
I've run CCleaner several times to clean up the registry.
 
Short of buying new hardware, which I am in the process of doing, nothing seems to be able to fix this. As far as I can tell, the problem is likely a hardware problem in the motherboard that affects the video circuits. I've swapped in a different CPU and still got the same problems. I had originally thought this might be simple corruption of the system software and installed a freshly formatted hard drive and did a fresh install of Windows 7 - The result being a less stable computer than what I'd had up to that point.
 
Thanks for your suggestions.
 
At this point I'm ready to try anything, so it is all welcome.
 
I have ordered an Intel G4560 Pentium Kaby Lake CPU which should arrive on March 3rd. After that comes a Gigabyte Aorus Z270X Gaming 5 Motherboard, and some form of 16 GBs of DDR4 RAM, likely G.Skill as it appears  to be the most affordable, (suggestions welcome!). Later on I'll upgrade the CPU to an i5 or i7, in the mean time I will have a (hopefully) stable computer...
 
 
 
post edited by Sushihunter - 2017/02/26 14:08:51

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/26 14:14:21 (permalink)
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Turning off hardware acceleration in your browser settings might help with the crashing when videos are played
 
I'd also suggest that you set your RAM's voltage manually in the BIOS, if set to auto - it could be adding to your instability woes
 
Mixing RAM sticks from two different companies is Never a good Idea.
 
IDE cables can be another point of failure.  I've had some that worked - most of the time - cause big stability issues, even reboots




1- My video card does not have the option to turn off hardware acceleration.
 
2- Haven't tried this yet. Did play around with CPU voltage a while back - only increased CPU temperatures, didn't help stability.
 
     What voltage would you suggest?
 
3- I only have the 2 sticks of G.Skill RAM installed at the moment. The OCZ RAM was put into the "Bridge Computer" - each one has 4 GBs. Also, RAM has been thoroughly tested with MemTest86.
 




 
item 1 - hardware acceleration - should be a setting in your Browser software - what are you using IE, FF, other ?
 
In Firefox - Tools- Options - Advanced - General - under browsing - uncheck box for: Use hardware acceleration when available
 
item 2 - set the RAM voltage to the Mfg specified voltage - look on RAM sticker or look up on Mfg website
 
item 3 - OK, when I reviewed the posts, it look like you listed both brands

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/26 15:55:28 (permalink)
1- I use both IE and Firefox. IE did not have acceleration enabled, Firefox did, so I turned it off.
 
2- I'll have to look this one up and get back to you...
 
3- I thought that's where you got that - I guess I should update that part of my signature.
 
Thanks for your help - it's all appreciated!
 
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/02/27 14:51:23 (permalink)
Update: February 27, 2017
 
I was searching for some info on RAM voltage and came across this posting in another forum on Tom's Hardware:
 
   Dec 19, 2007, 4:34 AM
 
    I've had exactly the same intermittent boot problems with my Vanilla P5K since buying it a month ago. Coupled with a Q6600 G0 stepping, it has been nothing but trouble... I have given up on it and bought a Gigabyte P35-DS3P - haven't had a single issue since. The ASUS P5K in combo with a Q6600 is a complete lemon imo.

Base BIOS was 0404; started having boot issues straight out of the box, no OC, no tweaking, default BIOS settings - took at least 10 reboots to POST. I have tried every possible Voltage setting, DRAM timing, voltage tweak, all peripherals disconnected, single RAM stick, no HDDs, diff Vid card, PSU, cleared CMOS ....updated, reupdated BIOS ... Dutifully upgrading to BIOS 0604, then 0703, then 0801, then 0803, then 0805, has made absloutely no difference. Once 'upgraded' to the 080X BIOSes, no utility was able to downgrade my BIOS. Even with the DOS asus update tool booted off a FDD with MSDOS-6.22; the BIOS from the ASUS CD and the original bin file I saved with the EZ Utility in BIOS , even the DOS util returned a msg " Incompatible with your motherboard " -- I gave up at this point. Going up the BIOS 'upgrade chain' the problem seemed to get worse, requiring more reboots  each time. This has nothing to do with ambient temperature or cold joints, as leaving the board powered in 'limbo' for up to 1/2 hour has no effect in helping it boot faster. I have tried every BIOS in order that was published on the ASUS ftp site for the P5K, and the latest 0805's answer to this issue is to enable Intel SpeedStep by stealth and C1E and TM2 support  by DEFAULT - toggling them in BIOS has NO effect, as a reboot will reset those two CPU feature settings to ENABLED automatically and regardless of whether it has been toggled to DISABLED in the BIOS. The effect of this is to POST at the OC speed, but then when the OS boots ...C1E and SpeedStep will reduce your OC to default again. So instead of fixing it, the solution appears to be prevent it OCing in the manner desired/specified in the BIOS. Mutton dressed up as Lamb. Utter rubbish engineering and design.

I will personally never buy nor recommend any ASUS board or product to anyone. Simply rubbish compared to similar product from ABIT and GIGABYTE, even MSI and FOXCONN. If you own one of these disasters, my suggestion is to save yourself wasted hours , and throw it away.
 
 
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/03/01 15:26:39 (permalink)
Update: March 1, 2017
 
Well, finally some good news...
 
As you may recall, I ordered a new Intel G4560 Pentium CPU last week for $88.98 Can$, plus taxes.
 
I was checking on my order yesterday and found that the price had dropped to $76.27.
 
A quick note to customer service at NCIX and I will get a credit note with the company for $14.24 (which includes the difference in price and taxes paid).
 
I will apply this to my Motherboard and RAM purchase in the near future.
 
Sometimes, it's the small victories that count...
 
 
Update: Well, that didn't last long! I got my refund, but the price on the CPU has gone back up to $87.98 Can$ - Still not sure why they dropped the price as much as they did when they don't have enough stock to cover the orders they have. This is a new Kaby Lake CPU with great features at a budget price. Only thing I can think of is that Intel is getting pressure from the new AMD CPU's that are about to hit the market. Also got word that my CPU has been delivered to the store and is ready for pick up.
 
Update 2: OK, a little more checking and I was able to find the sale price page listing using the sale code 138312-1590 to search for it. Not sure if this would get you the sale price or not, but worth a shot if you want to order this CPU. Or it could just be that they haven't cleaned the page from the website yet.
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/03/02 23:02:00 (permalink)
Update: March 2, 2017
 
Well, well, well. Look what is sitting on my desk tonight...
 
https://sabercathost.com/4Hwv/20170302_212340.jpg
 
https://sabercathost.com/4Hww/20170302_212449.jpg
 
Step 1 in the New System Build - a shiny new Intel G4560 Pentium CPU!
 
I also had a nice chat with one of the salesmen about motherboards and RAM. He gave me a few things to think about and research.
 
Anyone have any thoughts on MSI motherboards and Kingston DDR4 RAM?
 
 
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/03/02 23:24:28 (permalink)
Glad you received your cpu. 
 
MSI & Kingston make fine products. I usually run g.skill ram myself.
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/03/02 23:34:00 (permalink)
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Glad you received your cpu. 
 
MSI & Kingston make fine products. I usually run g.skill ram myself.


Yes, I've been looking almost exclusively at G.Skill RAM because it is generally the best bang for the buck.
 
However, it talking with the salesman tonight, he told me that they get a lot of G.Skill RAM returned as faulty. His recommendation was for Corsair and Kingston. Both fine companies in my opinion, but a little more expensive than the G.Skill.
 
I wish that OCZ still made RAM...
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/03/02 23:36:29 (permalink)
I've ran plenty of g.skill ram and have never had any issues. I'm currently running some corsair ddr4 with a cas latency of 10 at the moment.
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/03/03 00:00:31 (permalink)
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I've ran plenty of g.skill ram and have never had any issues. I'm currently running some corsair ddr4 with a cas latency of 10 at the moment.


That sounds reassuring. The last thing I want to do is spend a bunch of money on new problems.
 
I'm running some G.Skill DDR2 in this system, and as far as I can tell with MemTest86 it is running fine without any errors. I could always swap back my OCZ RAM that I originally bought for this system.

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/03/03 04:22:03 (permalink)
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Glad you received your cpu. 
 
MSI & Kingston make fine products. I usually run g.skill ram myself.


Yes, I've been looking almost exclusively at G.Skill RAM because it is generally the best bang for the buck.
 
However, it talking with the salesman tonight, he told me that they get a lot of G.Skill RAM returned as faulty. His recommendation was for Corsair and Kingston. Both fine companies in my opinion, but a little more expensive than the G.Skill.
 
I wish that OCZ still made RAM...
 


OCZ was absorbed into Toshiba a very long time ago.

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/03/03 04:34:02 (permalink)
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OCZ was absorbed into Toshiba a very long time ago.




Interesting... I didn't know that.
 
Last I heard, they had dropped their RAM line to work exclusively in SSD design and production.
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/04/23 00:36:13 (permalink)
Update: April 23, 2017
 
Just realized I haven't posted anything here for over 6 weeks...
 
Well, my P5K Premium is still running... sort of. Still getting the usual sudden crashes.
I'm still saving up for a new Motherboard and DDR4 RAM - Still looking at different options as to which ones to buy.
However, I have gotten somewhat side-tracked...
 
Last month, I found that Newegg Canada put a 1TB Pipeline HD (refurbished), on sale for only $39.95 Can$.
 
As all my data drives were full, and even my C drive was getting close to full as I saved various video files there, and I just had enough to cover the HD in my PayPal account, I ordered one.
 
Just got it installed and moved a bunch of video files around to clean things up, when a week later, I noticed that the put a 2TB Pipeline HD on sale for $59.99 - I was all set to order one and had it placed in my cart for several days waiting for a deposit into my account. After a few days, it came and I went to order the drive - and found the price had changed. It was now $49.99
 
Ordered the drive and got it the following morning!
 
Now, I copied the new 1TB drive contents over to the 2TB drive and started to organise the 2TB contents. Pulled the 1TB drive out and installed it into an external drive case, replacing an old 250 GB drive. The 1TB drive is now connected to my WDTV-Plus Media Player and now has every movie I haven't yet watched loaded, as well as several seasons of TV episodes, and ALL my cooking shows.
 
I've been able to clean up a number of drives and make room for new files etc.
 
Interesting thing about these Seagate Pipeline drives (Seagate ST2000VM003) - Using SeaTools, the Seagate HD Utility, I can't read many of the specs on the drive, either one of them. However, using the Western Digital HD Utility, I can read all sorts of details on the drives. ****, Seagate?
 
These are older drives, but from my experience, are very sturdy and sell suited to video data. They are  designed for video surveillance and to run 24/7.
They run at 5900 RPM, and are a little slow when transferring 10 GB files, but I'm not looking for speed, just stability. So far, so good.
 
Hoping to get either a MB or RAM next week, depending on what is or is not "on sale" at that time. I'll let you know what happens...
 
Thanks, everyone!
 

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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/04/23 14:09:37 (permalink)
Thanks for the update. Keep us posted. 
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Re: Help - Diagnosing Frequent Crashes BSoD - Video Card or PSU? 2017/04/30 10:46:27 (permalink)
Update: April 30, 2017
 
My local computer store held a Tech Event at the local mall this weekend. I went on Saturday to check things out.
I got to talk with various company reps from Gigabyte, MSI, Cooler Master, Corsair, and EVGA.
 
Picked up a ton of swag!

I bought a $50 Gift Card from NCIX that I will put toward my MB and RAM.
 
I got to try some VR Virtual Reality for the first time. Played Fruit Ninja. Really impressed with the quality of the environment. Lots of fun!
 

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