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2016/09/28 13:29:52 (permalink)
I completed this testing to help folks make a more informed decision when buying a new drive (or drives) when their primary focus is gaming.
 
I know this won't be popular with some, but I took several hours to complete game load time testing on an EVGA X99 Classified board (2.03 BIOS) between a 8 drive RAID 6 array with an Adaptec 8805 RAID controller running at PCIE 3.0 X8, a 512GB Samsung 950 Pro NVME drive in a PCIE 3.0 X4 expansion card with passive heatsink (running at PCIE 3.0 X4 speeds), a SATA III 512GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD (RAPID mode isn't enabled), and a 42 or 55.8GB RAM drive (64GB of 3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32).
 
Full computer specs can be found in the ModRigs link on the left.
 
All games were moved using Steam Mover (an awesome tool!) - it does work on both Steam and Origin games (and should work on any game as long as you point it to the correct game directory).
 
All results are given in seconds - e.g. 13.44 seconds, or 13 point 44 seconds. Times were taken using a stopwatch app (yes, there is a slight human reaction time error inherently built into each result).
 
All game loads were tested three times in a row.
 
No, I can't test all of the games with a RAM drive since many games are larger than 50GB (I only have 64GB of RAM you know! - unless you want to spot me 128GB or the cash for it!).
 
Yes, I'll test a game for you if I have it! (just ask)
 
 
Batman Arkham Knight 1080P
Savegame of 5% at Ace Chemicals, in game settings manually set to max and 1920X1080.
My timer was started when I clicked Continue Story and was stopped when I was loaded into the game.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
9.17
9.06
8.89
 
512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
9.75
9.14
9.07

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for B:AK)
9.69
9.44
9.38
 
42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
9.41
8.94
8.94

Batman Arkham Knight 4K
Savegame of 5% at Ace Chemicals, in game settings manually set to max and 3840X2160.
My timer was started when I clicked Continue Story and was stopped when I was loaded into the game.
 
8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
9.91
9.02
9.10

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
9.95
9.34
9.22
 
512GB 850 Evo (empty except for B:AK)
9.71
9.12
9.26
 
42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
11.56
9.16
11.27 (ran several times more to see, always between 9 and 11 seconds)

Shadows of Mordor 1080P
Storymode savegame of 3% (24 mins), in game settings manually set to max and 1920X1080.
My timer was started when I clicked Continue Story Mode and was stopped when I saw (ESC) Skip in the lower right corner.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
6.48 (I restarted the computer after this first result to be sure there wasn't anything cached as I did the RAM drive first, the NVME second, then the RAID third)
6.85
6.24
 
512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~135GB free)
5.86
5.80
5.88

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for SOM)
5.86
5.99
5.88
 
55.8GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32) (~62 of 64GB in use)
6.08
6.32
6.37

Shadows of Mordor 4K (appears to be DSR)
Storymode savegame of 3% (24 mins), in game settings manually set to max and (200%) 3840X2160.
My timer was started when I clicked Continue Story Mode and was stopped when I saw (ESC) Skip in the lower right corner.
 
8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
5.95
5.91
5.88

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~135GB free)
6.08
5.97
5.85
 
512GB 850 Evo (empty except for SOM)
6.18
5.85
5.96
 
55.8GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32) (~62.5 of 64GB in use)
6.01
5.95
6.34
 
 
Batman Arkham Origins 1080P
Savegame of 0% at Blackgate Prison, in game settings manually set to max and 1920X1080.
My timer was started when I clicked Continue Story and was stopped when I was loaded into the game.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
5.31
4.60
4.59
 
512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
5.30
4.49
4.61

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for B:AO)
4.62
4.56
4.35
 
42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
5.30
4.69
4.66

Batman Arkham Origins 4K
Savegame of 0% at Blackgate Prison, in game settings manually set to max and 3840X2160.
My timer was started when I clicked Continue Story and was stopped when I was loaded into the game.
 
8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
5.56
4.70
5.07

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
5.06
4.76
5.02
 
512GB 850 Evo (empty except for B:AO)
5.63
4.86
4.88
 
42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
5.63
4.72
4.89
 
Fallout 4 1080P (no mods)
Used a save game from one hour thirty minutes into the game. (1920X1080 and all game settings manually set to max)
Timer started when press Enter to Confirm (load) was pressed and stopped when the game loaded in.
 
8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
29.11
22.61
22.91

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
7.65
7.01
6.68

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for FO4)
7.49
6.81
6.67
 
42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
6.9
6.54
6.63
 

Fallout 4 4K (no mods)
Used a save game from one hour thirty minutes into the game. (3840X2160 and all game settings manually set to max)
Timer started when press Enter to Confirm (load) was pressed and stopped when the game loaded in.
 
8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
27.83
22.74
23.07

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink)  (boot drive, ~75GB free)
8.33
7.87
7.75

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for FO4)
8.98
7.92
7.88
 
42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
7.89
7.92
7.93
 
 
DOOM 1080P
DOOM Campaign, Advanced Research Complex save game (1920X1080 and in-game settings manually set to max)
Timer started when Continue Game pressed and stopped when press spacebar was displayed in the upper right corner.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
13.12
11.07
11.02
 
512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
11.86
11.64
11.67
 
512GB 850 Evo (empty except for DOOM)
12.26
12.13
12.02
 
 
DOOM 4K
DOOM Campaign, Advanced Research Complex save game (3840X2160 and in-game settings manually set to max)
Timer started when Continue Game pressed and stopped when press spacebar was displayed in the upper right corner.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
12.99
11.18
11.28

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
11.89
11.78
11.73

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for DOOM)
12.22
12.24
12.19
 

Dragon Age: Inquisition 1080P
1920X1080 and in-game settings manually set to max.
Timer started when Continue was pressed and stopped when game loaded.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
25.16
12.87
13.00

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
13.09
12.52
13.06

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for DA:I)
16.13
12.59
13.02
 
42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
12.96
13.08
13.07
 

Dragon Age: Inquisition 4K
3840X2160 and in-game settings manually set to max.
Timer started when Continue was pressed and stopped when game loaded.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
20.11
20.08
19.29

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
22.24
19.68
19.63

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for DA:I)
18.09
19.63
18.71
 
42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
21.82
18.96
19.73
 
 
Titanfall 1080P (Multiplayer)
All match loads were into the Attrition map, in game settings manually set to max and 1920X1080. 
My timer was started when I clicked on the attrition map and was stopped when I was loaded into the match, with two exceptions where I had to wait several minutes in a lobby to get a match - for those I started the timer when the match counter read 0.
 
8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
12.24 (no lobby)
11.56 (no lobby)
11.97 (no lobby)

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
9.25 (lobby load, timer started at 0)
11.88 (no lobby)
12.31 (no lobby)
 
512GB 850 Evo (empty except for Titanfall)
7.28 (lobby load, timer started at 0)
12.11 (no lobby)
12.52 (no lobby)
 

Titanfall 4K (Multiplayer)
All match loads were into the Attrition map (edit: all games loaded into were already in progress, no lobby time), in game settings manually set to max and 3840X2160.
My timer was started when I clicked on the attrition map and was stopped when I was loaded into the match.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
14.38 (no lobby)
12.67 (no lobby)
12.59 (no lobby)
 
512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
14.32 (no lobby)
12.35 (no lobby)
12.81 (no lobby)

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for Titanfall)
14.73 (no lobby)
13.69 (no lobby)
13.57 (no lobby)
 
 
To back up my overall findings and prove that I'm not full of it, here are some reviewers who actually did some game load testing as well as Windows boot time testing - which almost NO reviewers actually do (I wonder why that is, ehhhhhh?):
http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed/4
 
http://www.pcgamer.com/samsung-ssd-950-pro-review/ 
 
http://techreport.com/review/30642/toshiba-ocz-vx500-512gb-ssd-reviewed/5 
 
 
 
Some folks over on HardOCP were wondering if just using Steam Mover might have bottlenecked the game load times as Steam would go through the original drive to find out where the files/folders have moved to.
 
Well, I redid the one test that showed the most variation by moving over Steam and FO4:
 
 
Fallout 4 1080P (no mods)
Used a save game from one hour thirty minutes into the game. (1920X1080 and all game settings manually set to max)
Timer started when press Enter to Confirm (load) was pressed and stopped when the game loaded in.
 
Tested with steam install + FO4 moved (no other common folder steam games). Verified that other games could not be opened by trying to open one within Steam.
 
Order of testing: NVME, SSD, RAM, RAID. RAM drive only enabled for RAM drive test.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
30.25
23.34
21.74
 
512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~135GB free)
7.54
7.26
6.9
 
512GB 850 Evo (empty except for Steam + FO4)
7.33
6.80
6.95

48GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
7.06
6.76
6.89
 

FOR REFERENCE HERE IS THE ORIGINAL TEST
Fallout 4 1080P (no mods)
Used a save game from one hour thirty minutes into the game. (1920X1080 and all game settings manually set to max)
Timer started when press Enter to Confirm (load) was pressed and stopped when the game loaded in.

8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
29.11
22.61
22.91

512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
7.65
7.01
6.68

512GB 850 Evo (empty except for FO4)
7.49
6.81
6.67

42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
6.9
6.54
6.63
 

It doesn't seem to have changed the results much at all, wouldn't you say?
post edited by arestavo - 2016/10/02 16:03:48
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/28 13:55:53 (permalink)
    Yep, you don't need a fast drive for gaming. Normal SSD is fine. 
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/28 14:45:16 (permalink)
    Nice write up! I use a 950 Pro M.2 512gb and didn't notice any speed difference but wouldn't have bought it had I not sold my old computer. For the money I spent, I could have gotten 2 SSDs for RAID0 with more capacity  :D


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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/28 14:52:36 (permalink)
    Bah humbug! And here you've shot down my dream of having a huge RAM disk for loading games from as well!

    You're no fun. I want to not only buy a fast drive, but imagine that it's actually doing something for me too!

    Actually I'll probably still buy a 960 EVO when they come out, or wait a little and buy it cheaper, when I'm finally out of space on my 850 EVO.

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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/28 15:06:40 (permalink)
    sethleigh
    Bah humbug! And here you've shot down my dream of having a huge RAM disk for loading games from as well!

    You're no fun. I want to not only buy a fast drive, but imagine that it's actually doing something for me too!

    Actually I'll probably still buy a 960 EVO when they come out, or wait a little and buy it cheaper, when I'm finally out of space on my 850 EVO.




    That's exactly why I have 64GB of RAM and not 16 or 32 so I could use a RAM disk for some games. Then I wanted more space and figured that a NVME drive was the ticket. Well, now I know it doesn't matter that much!
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/28 20:01:38 (permalink)
    woojyee
    Nice write up! I use a 950 Pro M.2 512gb and didn't notice any speed difference but wouldn't have bought it had I not sold my old computer. For the money I spent, I could have gotten 2 SSDs for RAID0 with more capacity  :D





    Thank you!
     
    It's not a bad drive at all, but I went into that purchase thinking that I'd see massive improvements. I wish the reviews that I saw *before* I made the purchase had more than just the big numbers plastered everywhere - hence my write up on the subject.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/28 23:35:46 (permalink)
    I agree with results of your research. Always said that NVMe is -in general- pointless for gaming. At least 950Pro is optimized for low QD because it was designed to, while i750 is a beast but only at QD of 4+.
     
    However you missed one obvious route to prove that normal SSD (from Samsung) is far superior way of doing things. I see no RAPID mode on 850 Evo in your tests. I don't know how it will improve gaming experience on titles mentioned above as I never played single one of them, but I can testify that RAPID improves load/save/response time for certain titles (configuration/script/texture heavy) far beyond NVME performance. No surprise really, given 5000-7500MB/s R/W with RAPID on various QDs.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/28 23:53:18 (permalink)
    I read somewhere that rapid mode is nothing but a gimmick that only affects benchmark scores.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/29 06:06:49 (permalink)
    Samsung's Magician software is kinda junk when it comes to enabling/disabling RAPID as it gets stuck and never, ever can be enabled once it gets grayed out like it is on my computer. Believe me, I've tried to get it back up and running.
     
    Suffice to say, it uses your RAM. See the difference between my RAM drive and the EVO? There might be a difference of a second at most if RAPID mode could be enabled.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/29 07:37:11 (permalink)
    Nice job.  Very informative.  Good to have this type of info for choosing a drive and not wasting money...
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/29 08:48:20 (permalink)
    I agree very informative being said that I still like using the M 2 . 

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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/29 17:49:33 (permalink)
    Great review!
    I would be curious to see where you DO see a difference.  3d rendering, or video editing/compiling?  I know a lot of that is CPU driven, but I am curious where it will come into play for non-gaming for a home user, even a power user.  Especially things like where does a M.2 bypass a RAM drive, and vice versa.  Not really *needing* the info, I just find these kinds of tests interesting.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/29 18:26:23 (permalink)
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    Great review!
    I would be curious to see where you DO see a difference.  3d rendering, or video editing/compiling?  I know a lot of that is CPU driven, but I am curious where it will come into play for non-gaming for a home user, even a power user.  Especially things like where does a M.2 bypass a RAM drive, and vice versa.  Not really *needing* the info, I just find these kinds of tests interesting.




    Thank you!
     
    For my usage it's very obvious that file transfer speeds between my RAID and the NVME are much better than with my old SSD. So anything that can make use of that would benefit.
     
    I know, from reviews, that large databases can greatly benefit from the massive IOPS gains with higher queue depths. I'd hazard a guess that photo/video editing might benefit from an NVME drive as well - yet, as you mentioned, they'd probably be limited more by the CPU. Always a bottleneck somewhere!
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/09/30 00:16:06 (permalink)
    It will be rather long response, so here it goes.
     
    First I can confirm that RAPID mode works great. It's not a gimmick, not by a long shot if your software can utilize the speed increase. I mentioned EU4 as one of the games which loads ages without it. Other I can think of is Phoenix Rising mod for old SW FoC which has reworked AI scripting and it's damn huge. Also when copying data between NVMe and RAPID enabled drive performance gains are obvious and clear as glass. One of my photo archives in on RAPID drive. There is about 600 directories with I don't even pretend to know how many files. Ha, ha! Hashnig contents takes fraction of the time when compared to non-RAPID 850EVO (I have quite a few 850s to compare).
     
    As for NVMe. Certainly VM, but not many gamers use them and I'm doing my best to move away from them as well. Also DB. I have still one old program which rely on off-line db installed locally. Program is no longer updated since beginning of this year, but data is still relevant for fast search of not too new items and DB are still released monthly. Installing them on NVMe is I don't know, 15 second job. 1/4 of normal SSD and on HDD it took 5 minutes easily.
     
    So... if you're artist or into photography (even if that only means hoarding pictures) NVMe drive is smooth sailing. I have 2 large directories with thousands and thousands of files. If not for FastPictureViewer software I would have to chop and chop directories. Here I know I can just dump 100 or 200k files and it won't break a sweat. Saving into such directories is much more pleasant experience than even the fastest of AHCI devices. NVMe has no problem reading 100k files and refreshing then almost instantly. SATA SSD choke itself to death and when I was running HDDs for that part of my archive, suffice to say hard drive was close to exploding while waiting to access the data.
     
    Recording video to NVMe is just fabulous. You can run few things in the background and record 1440p material with perfect results. Everything is in perfect sync with 90% quality setting and H.264 codec. Ripping DVDs is trivial. Looking back at recording to MPG1 or DiVX3 15 years ago and being always annoyed because something was not right, NVMe is dream come true (given of course powerful CPU which 2011-3 is, but I had some recording done on 1366 and it went equally well, even with reduced transfers). Same goes for recording Audio, but of course here demand for CPU power is not as excessive.
     
    And last but not least anything that involves sustained transfers. I'm working diligently to remove HDD ballast from my main rig. If all goes well before end of the year SSD pool for all stuff should be completed. All I need is ~3-4TB more of SSD space (with 1TB safety margin to offload data if something is not right). Here ordinary AHCI SSD caching drive is not ideal since we deal with sustained R/W/balancing transfers of much higher rate than with HDDs. I preparing one of i750 to do just that. Will plug it into  Gen.2 slot as 1600MB/s bandwidth will be enough to deal with 500ish MB/s SSDs. Copying data between NVMe devices is just blink of the eye. Recently did that when transferring stuff from i750 to 950P thinking it's year 2000, still with HDDs in mind. Fired up TotalCommander, selected directories, F5 and went for a tea. Returned maybe 3 minutes later and job was about 30 sec from finishing. It was just like that: jaw on the floor - how the hell it's over already!?! Exactly. Sustained transfer is just [I have to self censor myself and constrain enthusiasm] unbelievably great! Still sustained transfer is not common thing when you deal with gaming, but when moving large amount of stuff at once you will be in awe. Shock and awe*, just without huge explosions! LOL
     
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/10/02 10:24:37 (permalink)
    Some folks were over on HardOCP were wondering if just using Steam Mover might have bottlenecked the game load times as Steam would go through the original drive to find out where the files/folders have moved to.
     
    Well, I redid the one test that showed the most variation:
     
     
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    Used a save game from one hour thirty minutes into the game. (1920X1080 and all game settings manually set to max)
    Timer started when press Enter to Confirm (load) was pressed and stopped when the game loaded in.
     
    Tested with steam install + FO4 moved (no other common folder steam games). Verified that other games could not be opened by trying to open one within Steam.
     
    Order of testing: NVME, SSD, RAM, RAID. RAM drive only enabled for RAM drive test.

    8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
    30.25
    23.34
    21.74
     
    512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~135GB free)
    7.54
    7.26
    6.9
     
    512GB 850 Evo (empty except for Steam + FO4)
    7.33
    6.80
    6.95

    48GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
    7.06
    6.76
    6.89
     
     
     
    FOR REFERENCE HERE IS THE ORIGINAL TEST
    Fallout 4 1080P (no mods)
    Used a save game from one hour thirty minutes into the game. (1920X1080 and all game settings manually set to max)
    Timer started when press Enter to Confirm (load) was pressed and stopped when the game loaded in.

    8 Hard Disk RAID 6 Array (WD Black 5TB 128MB Cache 7200RPM drives) (18.1TB of 27.2TB free)
    29.11
    22.61
    22.91

    512GB 950 Pro NVME in PCIE 3.0 X4 slot (with passive heatsink) (boot drive, ~75GB free)
    7.65
    7.01
    6.68

    512GB 850 Evo (empty except for FO4)
    7.49
    6.81
    6.67

    42GB RAM drive (3200MHz DDR4 16-18-18-32)
    6.9
    6.54
    6.63
     
     
    It doesn't seem to have changed the results at all, wouldn't you say?
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/10/02 11:26:08 (permalink)
    Interesting tests.
     
    The RAM drive test, was that loading it into RAM drive (from a HD) then opening the game?
     
    Or were you setup to automatically populate the RAM drive at boot, and it took that long for the game to open from within the RAM drive (memory) ?
     
    If the RAM drive is that slow, the CPU / or coding of the game, must be limiting the game opening

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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/10/02 11:37:22 (permalink)
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    Interesting tests.
     
    The RAM drive test, was that loading it into RAM drive (from a HD) then opening the game?
     
    Or were you setup to automatically populate the RAM drive at boot, and it took that long for the game to open from within the RAM drive (memory) ?
     
    If the RAM drive is that slow, the CPU / or coding of the game, must be limiting the game opening




    The RAM drive was created solely for the test, and the games (and for the one test, Steam plus the game) were moved onto the RAM drive and opened from the RAM drive. I was checking save game load speeds only, and not "open the exe, wait for cut-scenes, etc.")
     
    I'm not sure what the bottleneck is exactly but these tests show that after seek times are eliminated, game load times plateau - regardless of how fast a drive is.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/10/02 12:22:12 (permalink)
    Thanks for the clarity and sharing your results with the Forum community. 
     
    Glad I did not buy the 64 GB RAM kit to make a RAM drive; though it still might help with large CAD files

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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/10/02 12:27:01 (permalink)
    Are all your testing platforms connected together at the same time or are you separately connecting them to the MB for testing purposes?

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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/10/02 12:43:10 (permalink)
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    Are all your testing platforms connected together at the same time or are you separately connecting them to the MB for testing purposes?




    Everything is connected, with the exception of the RAM drive that is only turned on during the RAM drive test.
     
    I completed read/write tests, using ATTO disk benchmark, on all drives and they are all performing as expected so there isn't a bottleneck there.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/10/02 23:57:46 (permalink)
    With regard to RAMDrive.
     
    It's usefulness today is rather limited. I was running RD on 1366 with few old software pieces (SSDs were working only in SATA2 mode). With 2011-3 switch I found there is nothing to be gained. Fast CPU + good SSD is enough. I'm not a cyborg to detect that 0.2371s difference. ;) Perhaps like CoolGTX said it'll help with large CAD projects - but only with software immediately creating backup on non-volatile medium. I've decided against 64GB of RAM before switch. With 32 I ran some tests early on and differences (1366+RD vs 2011-3+SSD) were in the margin of statistical error (3%) which makes whole hassle of running & populating RD every time pointless in the extreme.
     
    To some extent I feel like 32GB is vast overkill at this moment in time, even if I attempt to run everything at once.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/11/10 21:48:55 (permalink)
    This dropped off of the forum, and I couldn't search for it. So, I am tapping this to the top to let some more folks know about it - if they are interested.
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    Re: EVGA X99 Classified NVME/SSD/RAID/SATA III Game Load Times 2016/11/10 21:51:19 (permalink)
     
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