mdzcpa

Beasthunt
 
I agree with this, and any game that does use over 6gb vram, you will not be able to run it at 4k 60fps on a single Titan x anyway. Fact is, the Titan x is a 1440p card. It's not a 4k card unless you SLI or are happy with 4k/30fps. And if we are talking about SLI, i'm sure the 980 ti SLI will be a monster.

I just don't buy into his keeping for the extra vram. The card is powerful, but it's not all powerful and it's not really a 4k card. Mine runs Witcher 3 at about 40-45 fps on 4k with hairworks and AA turned off. After playing with the card, heavily, for over a week. It's just no value in it for gaming over the 980ti, tbh.

 
I think you are failing to understand how VRAM with SLI works. Regardless of the number of GPUs you only have the VRAM limit of a single card to work with. So SLI 980Ti will have a max of 6GB. SLI TX will have 12GB.  It is not unreasonable to expect 4K gaming and/or game mods to use more than 6GB. And with TX in SLI you have 2 full blown GM200 to push the pixels.  That's a sweet 4K gaming set up.  Although 12GB of VRAM is more than even multi GPU GM200s can process it does provide the needed overhead.  I suspect 8GB or so would be the sweet spot for having enough VRAM to feed multi GM200s.  But 6GB is not going to be enough to push 980Ti SLI at 4K with Ultra settings. 

Beasthunt

mdzcpa

Beasthunt
 
I agree with this, and any game that does use over 6gb vram, you will not be able to run it at 4k 60fps on a single Titan x anyway. Fact is, the Titan x is a 1440p card. It's not a 4k card unless you SLI or are happy with 4k/30fps. And if we are talking about SLI, i'm sure the 980 ti SLI will be a monster.

I just don't buy into his keeping for the extra vram. The card is powerful, but it's not all powerful and it's not really a 4k card. Mine runs Witcher 3 at about 40-45 fps on 4k with hairworks and AA turned off. After playing with the card, heavily, for over a week. It's just no value in it for gaming over the 980ti, tbh.

 
I think you are failing to understand how VRAM with SLI works. Regardless of the number of GPUs you only have the VRAM limit of a single card to work with. So SLI 980Ti will have a max of 6GB. SLI TX will have 12GB.  It is not unreasonable to expect 4K gaming and/or game mods to use more than 6GB. And with TX in SLI you have 2 full blown GM200 to push the pixels.  That's a sweet 4K gaming set up.  Although 12GB of VRAM is more than even multi GPU GM200s can process it does provide the needed overhead.  I suspect 8GB or so would be the sweet spot for having enough VRAM to feed multi GM200s.  But 6GB is not going to be enough to push 980Ti SLI at 4K with Ultra settings. 

I know exactly how SLI works. I know vram doesn't stack. I just ran Shadow of Mordor full blast at 4k and I was getting an average of 6.1gb of memory used. Turn textures down one notch to high and you are at 3.7gb usage.  Witcher 3 barely breaks 2gb on 4k.  8bg is indeed the sweet spot, but i'm fairly certain SoM is a resource hog and an exception, and that one setting is not a game breaker between 980 ti and Titan x.....for $400 if you bought the SC version like I did. I don't have GTA V on pc so I don't know the memory usage on that one.

The vram scare is being blown out of proportion here. Sure it's great for peace of mind, but that's about it. You will probably be long done with your 980 ti's/Titan x before you have to constantly worry about 6gb vram not being enough.

Beasthunt

mdzcpa

Beasthunt
 
I agree with this, and any game that does use over 6gb vram, you will not be able to run it at 4k 60fps on a single Titan x anyway. Fact is, the Titan x is a 1440p card. It's not a 4k card unless you SLI or are happy with 4k/30fps. And if we are talking about SLI, i'm sure the 980 ti SLI will be a monster.

I just don't buy into his keeping for the extra vram. The card is powerful, but it's not all powerful and it's not really a 4k card. Mine runs Witcher 3 at about 40-45 fps on 4k with hairworks and AA turned off. After playing with the card, heavily, for over a week. It's just no value in it for gaming over the 980ti, tbh.

 
I think you are failing to understand how VRAM with SLI works. Regardless of the number of GPUs you only have the VRAM limit of a single card to work with. So SLI 980Ti will have a max of 6GB. SLI TX will have 12GB.  It is not unreasonable to expect 4K gaming and/or game mods to use more than 6GB. And with TX in SLI you have 2 full blown GM200 to push the pixels.  That's a sweet 4K gaming set up.  Although 12GB of VRAM is more than even multi GPU GM200s can process it does provide the needed overhead.  I suspect 8GB or so would be the sweet spot for having enough VRAM to feed multi GM200s.  But 6GB is not going to be enough to push 980Ti SLI at 4K with Ultra settings. 

I know exactly how SLI works. I know vram doesn't stack. I just ran Shadow of Mordor full blast at 4k and I was getting an average of 6.1gb of memory used. Turn textures down one notch to high and you are at 3.7gb usage.  Witcher 3 barely breaks 2gb on 4k.  8bg is indeed the sweet spot, but i'm fairly certain SoM is a resource hog and an exception, and that one setting is not a game breaker between 980 ti and Titan x.....for $400 if you bought the SC version like I did. I don't have GTA V on pc so I don't know the memory usage on that one.

The vram scare is being blown out of proportion here. Sure it's great for peace of mind, but that's about it. You will probably be long done with your 980 ti's/Titan x before you have to constantly worry about 6gb vram not being enough.

mdzcpa

CoercionShaman
I don't understand everyone trying to 'shame' Titan X owners, either.  Some people probably never should have bought the card to begin with, agreed.  For some, the Ti makes more sense for their intended use and it wasn't available when they purchased the X.  For others, such as myself, it was all about owning the card.  And it still is the card... for now.

 
Well, its a combination of things.  There is no doubt that the 980 Ti price point has been eye raising at a minimum, and that Nvidia did not cut down performance much to differentiate it from TX.  So I can certainly see how some folks can make the claim that 980 Ti is the real king in bang for the buck situations. You also have a good number of the jealous guys that really can't afford the top end kit.  They see others spending huge premiums for "the best" in a price range where the return on investment might begin to fade.  For me, I want the best, I know there are diminishing returns at the high end, and I elect to pay the price.  Some folks cannot grasp that. I wouldn't let it bother you.  At the end of the day TX is still king for now and the 980 Ti is a lesser card.  Some folks will want to make themselves believe the 980 Ti is equal so they can feel good and save a bundle of cash.  For most people the 980 Ti is a smart buy.  But for those that have or want the TX, have the budget, and value the TX VRAM and full GM200, there is nothing wrong with it.
 
PS.  If I were buying today I'd still likely get the TX because I want the extra VRAM for SLI at 4K.  I would never count on the DX12 adoption guesstimate to save me when 6GB hits the 4k limit in the not so distant future.

Beasthunt
No one should be "upset", tbh. You made a purchase. At the time you bought what you wanted. If Nvidia launches something a week later with the exact same specs for much cheaper then there is no reason to be upset. Future products should never change your emotions towards your purchase.

Now there are those like myself, who can return the Titan and perhaps get dual 980 tis for a few hundred bucks more.

Since the HD texture pack in SoM is not a standard feature, as in you have to download it separate from the game, it's basically a mod. So said 980ti can easily max the game at 4k with no mods. When adding mods in the equation things change. I know I've said it before and I will say it again; I've said it before......*meme joke*

I think both sides are grasping at straws trying to convince themselves one is better. One guy has a legitimate issue with his $1100 dollar card and is RMA'ing it. Can't blame him.

Call me shady but at the least I will be returning my Titan X to micro center for my $1089 refund plus tax and ordering the hybrid cooled Titan X. Or pondering going 980 sli for a few hundred bucks more.

zildjian75
Ok fellas...
 
I have read about the first 2 pages of this thread and it's the same old same old...  This is tech...  This is what happens...  How can you get upset about this?  It's nothing new...  if there was no titan x folks would be whining for a card with the performance of a 980ti but double the ram...  Besides, isn't the titan Double precision...  It's not all about speed when it comes to the titan.
 
If it makes y'all feel any better, I bought 2 980 SC's about 6-7 months ago and I don't regret it one bit!  Cast about $100 more than a single titan and will smoke the titan and 980ti...  7 months later!!  Like I said... there is more to the Titan than just speed.  Pick yourselves up by  the bootstraps and find a way to move on with life!!!
 
This is out of control!!! 

jpearson79
Hmm. I have about $1000 in rewards at my disposal, had my heart set on a 980 Ti until I read about the new Asus 27" 1440p IPS 144hz monitor coming out. <wallet throws itself onto my PC monitor> I may just say to heck with it and buy a Titan X for longevity sake, and then SLI it down the road if need be. If I were one of you who bought the Titan X I'd absolutely keep it, why not.

stalinx20

mdzcpa
I get the feeling the folks that are dumping their Titan X cards are folks that likely bought the wrong card to begin with.
 
These would be folks that:
1. Had no business spending $1,000 on a GPU to begin with and it's a real budget concern
2. Did not understand the true value of 12GB VRAM (SLI, high resolutions, multi monitor)
3. Did not truly want the best card available (only want "good enough" for the price)
 
Don't get me wrong, I can understand why some folks are returning their TX card to get a lesser card that's "close" in performance and save $350 bucks. These are folks looking for a good bang for the buck.  And the 980Ti is certainly going to do that. But it is these folks that likely do not realize what the TX was all about to begin with in my opinion.
 
Although I'm a bit surprised the 980Ti is debuting at $650 (versus say $800), you couldn't pry my TX cards from my hands. 

The 970 contraversy/ The hype/ pressure from people saying they "need more VRAM".

VegetaCreeper

Stephenk291
Oh give me a break. The next card they release you'll buy. I love when people post crap like this like it's the end of the world. Nvidia is a business they're making a business decision to combat the 390x ahead of time. Put your big boy pants on and deal with it. You pay a premium when you adopt the latest and greatest.

You don't have to be a jerk man

doomstrider

 
I was installing my water blocks, remove stock cooler and one of my titan x only had one piece of thermal pad. SMFH NVIDIA, EVGA. 1k plus card and this is what i find. Imagine if i never water cooled them