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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/08 19:59:30 (permalink)
99.7MHz is correct. This is the default clock that the Intel ME runs at. It is not possible to run at exactly 100MHz. This is defined by Intel.

Regarding memory running at 1333MHz when set to 1600MHz certainly this is not expected and is being investaged.

Lastly, because the layout is so constraint it is really not possible to support over 2133MHz, this is a hardware limitation and is not related to BIOS and not even related to EVGA, there is no way around this.

All other items are being looked into.


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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/08 21:37:57 (permalink)
Not supporting higher than 2133 MHz RAM is not possible with the mITX form factor, and unrelated to EVGA and there's no way around it? That's not true!

I don't understand EVGA any more. You're not the company that you used to be. You're now making categorically false statements to cover up the limitations of your products. There are numerous mITX motherboards from companies like ASUS, MSI, ASRock that support up to 2800 MHz. So, it's obviously entirely possible. And those motherboards cost less money, get rapid BIOS updates and tweaks, and just work.

Being up front and saying you're working on fixing the problems is good, although how anyone considers it being months between BIOS updates as acceptable is beyond me. Making excuses and outright false statements to cover for your poorly developed/supported products is bad.

Where did the EVGA go that we all used to be proud of talking about? Your motherboards are a disaster. Great support only goes so far. Having products that actually work is what keeps customers. If you're not capable of putting out well developed products, stop. You're destroying your reputation.
post edited by mpetts - 2013/01/08 21:41:03
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/08 22:25:00 (permalink)
Mr.HedgehogHunter
You need to do more research. ASUS's support is a lot better then EVGA's support. EVGA offers no real support beyond RMAs. ASUS sells way more products than EVGA, so it's normal to see more complaints. ASUS has real R&D and EVGA has little to none.

 
  My research is experience, When I had a problem with a recent board I had to go through their "tech support" before I could RMA it. THe process was painful, they didn't even bother to actually read what I said. You can see it all the time if you go look at their responses to reviews on newegg, the scan for keywords and drop boilerplate information based on the keywords and ignore everything else. It was such a pain in the ass to get an RMA done then they wanted me to pay to ship them their defective mobo so I just threw it in the trash and resolved to never buy Asus again.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/08 22:36:07 (permalink)
mpetts

Not supporting higher than 2133 MHz RAM is not possible with the mITX form factor, and unrelated to EVGA and there's no way around it? That's not true!

I don't understand EVGA any more. You're not the company that you used to be. You're now making categorically false statements to cover up the limitations of your products. There are numerous mITX motherboards from companies like ASUS, MSI, ASRock that support up to 2800 MHz. So, it's obviously entirely possible. And those motherboards cost less money, get rapid BIOS updates and tweaks, and just work.

 
THe Asus Mobos do not seem to support this:
http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77I_DELUXEWD/
2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 2400(O.C.)/2200(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1800(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
 
http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77I_DELUXE/#specifications
2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 2400(O.C.)/2200(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/2000(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1800(O.C.)/1600/1333 MHz 
 
Asrock says they do:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77E-ITX/?cat=Specifications
Supports DDR3 2800+(OC)/2400(OC)/2133(OC)/1866(OC)/1600/1333/1066 non-ECC, un-buffered memory
 
So does MSI:
 
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z77IA-E53.html#/?div=Basic
1066/1333/1600/1866*/2000*/2133*(OC), 2200*/2400*/2600*/2667*/2800*(OC, 22nm CPU required)
 
I will agree that they ALL support over 2133. Maybe EVGA meant w/ Sandybridge?
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/08 22:55:35 (permalink)
I could have been more clear. I meant that there are mITX Z77 motherboards capable of doing up to 2800 MHz, I just listed examples of ones that do more than the supposed limitation of 2133 MHz that was stated by Jacob.

Judging from the posts in this thread, getting RAM up to 1866 MHz is a challenge on the Stinger, if the settings stick, and XMP is of no use since it's completely broken. That's from both Sandybridge and Ivy Bridge CPU's.

The BIOS sounds about as good as the Z77 FTW one is, which is not good. Hardware limitation in not being able to run RAM at rated speeds sounds very familiar, except the FTW can't do it with 4 sticks. I was told in these forums that it was likely the memory controller on my CPU that was the limitation, yet funny how it runs on XMP at 2133 MHz on this ASUS board.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/09 20:57:23 (permalink)
Yeah, it sucks. I had a good long argument with support about this, demanded a refund because they are knowingly selling defective products and they where like "sure but we are going to charge you a 15% restocking fee". This filled me with rage; it took everything I had to not turn into a screaming mad lunatic on the phone.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/10 05:50:37 (permalink)
This is a confusing issue since the problem can be hardware limitations but it can also be in the hands of the user as well.  Not knowing your experience in computers and such, it does seem to be in the hardware.  One thing you need to keep in mind is that anything above 1600 is considered O.C..  When it comes to ocing, it is based on your chip, board, and memory.  Every chip, board, and memory is different when you get into the OC world.  This is why we are known as enthusiast.  We like to push beyond rated specs.

When I build a system and decide to get memory that would require ocing a chip that is not rated for those speeds, I expect that there can be roadblocks.  Welcome to the world of ocing.  Pointing blame at EVGA, Asus, etc. is just out of frustration of not achieving your oc goals.  I currently have 5 EVGA boards from the 680i to my Z77 FTW.  They all work really well.  I did have some detours that I had to take because of limitations but I have had those limitations with several other motherboard manufacturers as well.  I went with the P8Z77-I Deluxe because the stinger doesn't have the MVP Virtu on board.  When it comes to a single PCIe, I must have the MVP.  If the Stinger had the MVP, I would have went with that board.
 
Since the memory controller is on board the CPU, that would be considered a possible limitation as well.  I have had cases with that because I had a 3570k that had a rough time with 1866 speeds on the memory.  I then pulled that chip and put in another 3570k and had no issues at all.  In this case the memory controller was the bottleneck.  But I couldn't complain because it was above rated speeds according to Intel's specs.
 
Is says it right here - http://ark.intel.com/products/65520/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz
 
So with that being said, Intel has it written in plain English.  Memory types = 1333/1600.  You go above that, expect issues here and there.  Doesn't mean that EVGA is to blame.  Jacob mentioned that the Stinger has it's limitations of what it can handle do to the layout constraint.  Which is very understandable.  Intel has there limitations as well.  So..  It is what it is.  
 
 
 


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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/10 08:41:25 (permalink)
Drerex, i agree with you when you talk about overclocking skill and knowing how and when to find that sweet spot overclock. and with me being used to overclocking amd processors, normal time to find the right oc takes about a week of constant battling with whatever bios.
 
but i refuse to believe my 3770k's memory controller is so bad i cannot get some of the most famously known overclocking memory sticks passed 1600mhz.
 
i would love to drop the same processor and ram setup into another motherboard designed for overclocking (like the stinger mind you) and see about how it does.
 
this is my second evga board, first one being the 750i ftw. that board was amazing, still regret selling it to this day. 
 
and to be honest, i really dont think evga gives a damn about whether any of us are angry about the performance on the stinger, because they do so well selling graphics cards.
 
im just happy i was able to get an overclock stable at 4.7ghz with my 3770k. maybe WHEN, not if, WHEN they release a revisioned bios i can up the overclock to 4.9 or 5 with memory at 2133mhz instead of its current 1600mhz.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/10 10:57:23 (permalink)
I agree that the memory controller shouldn't be so bad that you cannot get some of the most famously known overclocking memory sticks passed 1600mhz.  But there is a reason why Intel has it spec'd at 1600mhz.  Not to see if other people can get it higher, but to give you a speed that is recommended for best operation.  We all know that we can go higher.  Trust me, I am running 2133 sticks on my Z77 FTW/3770k rig.  I have 1866 sticks for my new P8Z77-I/3570k rig.  Haven't built it yet though.  
 
Sorry, don't want to sound negative.  Just wanted OP to understand just because there memory isn't running at rated speeds, don't come here saying, "I am never getting another EVGA board again".  I just want to see OP to understand that this is the price you pay sometimes.  It can be the Chip, memory, or another bottle neck hooked in.  I have seen some of the weirdest things in my day.  


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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/10 12:41:30 (permalink)
I already posted my Graphic card problems here on the forums. If that gets fixed then I will keep the board. I really do like the board otherwise, even if the bios is a complete mess.
 
I will try calling EVGA on my issue, but otherwise I am slowly leaning towards RMA and going ASRock.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/10 13:02:15 (permalink)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mini-itx-z77-motherboard,3389-21.html
 
"What about EVGA’s Z77 Stinger? It's more limited in features, overclocking on it seemed to be hamstrung, and it's expensive. Those quibbles could be fixed if the company ditched its $20 mail-in-rebate in favor of a lower base price, added the missing Wi-Fi card, and worked on its under-developed firmware. Even then, this is the only board we’ve seen in many years without a front-panel audio header. That's simply a standard feature that every commercial builder uses, and any commercial builder would have a tough time explaining why a PC’s front-panel audio jacks are dead. And as do-it-yourselfers, most of us expect our machines to be more functional than those built commercially."
 
There you have it... everyone is seeing it clearly how crappy the firmware at EVGA is. EVGA reputation is going from bad to worse every day.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/10 13:23:06 (permalink)
Tudd Fudders

I already posted my Graphic card problems here on the forums. If that gets fixed then I will keep the board. I really do like the board otherwise, even if the bios is a complete mess.

I will try calling EVGA on my issue, but otherwise I am slowly leaning towards RMA and going ASRock.

 
If you decide to give the Stinger another shot, then I recommend sending it back to the retailer where you purchased it from. At least this way you can get a refund if the second Stinger does not work correctly...
 
Whatever manufacture you go with, fully test out the board and use it as much as you can before the return period is up. This way you decrease your chances of having to deal with the manufacture if a problem occurs. 
 
Also, if you're going with another Mini ITX motherboard, then I recommend looking getting a Mini ITX motherboard that comes with a wifi module already installed. 
 
Good Luck....
 
 
post edited by Mr.HedgehogHunter - 2013/01/10 13:25:47
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/11 02:05:57 (permalink)
i personally would be out of luck if i had decided to return it to where i purchased it from. performance-pcs.com does not do returns haha. can't blame them.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/11 07:55:50 (permalink)
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mpetts

Not supporting higher than 2133 MHz RAM is not possible with the mITX form factor, and unrelated to EVGA and there's no way around it? That's not true!

I don't understand EVGA any more. You're not the company that you used to be. You're now making categorically false statements to cover up the limitations of your products. There are numerous mITX motherboards from companies like ASUS, MSI, ASRock that support up to 2800 MHz. So, it's obviously entirely possible. And those motherboards cost less money, get rapid BIOS updates and tweaks, and just work.


THe Asus Mobos do not seem to support this:
http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77I_DELUXEWD/
2 x DIMM, Max. 16GB, DDR3 2400(O.C.)/2200(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1800(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
I will agree that they ALL support over 2133. Maybe EVGA meant w/ Sandybridge?

From their DDR3 1067 Qualified Vendors List (QVL) and with KVR1066D3N7/4G I can only get 667Mhz on this MB and with KHX21C11T3K2/16X I can only get 667Mhz on my Stinger with KHX21C11T3K2/16X I get 667MHz the same. With the i7-3770K on both. I stayed with the Stinger and gave away the P8Z77-I DELUXE MB.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/11 23:35:27 (permalink)
I got my replacement. It functions stock. I am leaving it that way until a BIOS update emerges.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/12 16:06:39 (permalink)
Replaced my board with ASrock's. Works great.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/13 09:17:29 (permalink)
Is this really the Stinger we all waited for? what a piece of junk.
I already ordered return for my example that came with random restarts, 1600mhz memory (kingston) running at 1333 and last but not least bsod from hell.
I have not touched anything that has to do with o.c. and the bios has always been on default.
 
I recommend everybody to return there products if they have any issue, it seems this board have not been tested and who knows wich problems that will occure in the future.
Maybe a bios update late 2017.
 
Sorry for bad english
 
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/13 12:53:48 (permalink)
Wow!
Reading all these posts is really making me regret my Stinger purchase.
It's such a shame, so many of us were literally holding our breath waiting for the release of this MB.
It really seemed to have the potential to be a true contender in terms of performance plus it looked great.
My RMA'd board was received by EVGA on the 9th of this month, let's see how long it takes to get a replacement. So far they have not even notified me that they received it.
As some others on this forum, I never even got a chance to try to OC, so I can't comment on the quality or effectiveness of the BIOS.
Mine started having trouble with the networking hardware, it would say there was no hardware present on the machine, and it did not even show a network device in the hardware manager.
By the time I sent mine back, I was completely unable to even do a clean install of Windows.
It would just get hung up at the "starting Windows" logo screen every time I tried, and believe me when I say I tried almost everything to get this thing up and running.
It would not even boot into safe mode.
Is there even any talk or news at all about a new BIOS for this board?
 
post edited by ixlad66 - 2013/01/13 15:57:12
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/13 15:01:46 (permalink)
So I had a bit of time today to mess around with the BIOS settings on the Stinger board.  Still just as glitchey as when I first got it.  I actually managed to get it to accept a VCore setting, but still wouldn't OC past 3.8GHz.  I upped all the voltages a tad in a safe matter, but still couldn't break past 3.8.  So after many CMOS clear button presses later, I decided to roll with the setting that I had before.  But this time, the CPU speed is not going by my set speed.  I set all the cores for 38x multipler, but it acts like it is in Auto mode.
 
As for the memory speed issues, I ain't touching that.  Not exactly sure why everybody wants to OC their memory to such speeds.  I find 1333MHz or 1600MHz works plenty fine for an unlocked processor.  Now if this was like the 1st Gen i Cores, that would be a different story.

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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/13 15:51:06 (permalink)
I can't tell you how many times I hit the clear CMOS button.
I even tried leaving the board without a battery for 24 hours, which has worked in other situations with other motherboards of course.
It made absolutely no difference in my case.
I think the issues with the memory should be addressed as well.
It should run 2133MHz ram as advertised, otherwise don't bother calling it an "overclocking MB".
I bought memory of this speed specifically for this rig and I would like to take advantage of it.
Just as an observation:  to make sure it was not the cause of my problem, I tried 5 different sets of memory modules from A Data, G Skill and Corsair (@ speeds of 1600, 2000, 2133 and 2400MHz).
Once again, no changes.
 
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/14 00:05:30 (permalink)
Well,I will never buy a EVGA board again. My old H55 itx was faster and more stable at half the price. I had to cripple my stinger to get it to play games without problems. Had to run multi at 32, up the volts to VCCIO to 1.13, and ram to 1.6 volts and 1333 just so it wont make a mess out of my hard drive. If I run it at stock, I get crashes and file corruption. This is an enthusiast board. You need to be super talented with PCs to get it to run at all. Very challenging. I truly hate this thing. And as far as I can see, it is all in a extremely bad BIOS. Now I have windows 7 OEM. And now after I replace this pile of trash, I will have to explain to Microsoft why I need to reactivate on a different board. This board was a defective product off the shelf as the BIOS is part of it. I hope they will understand. I will refer them to this forum if they doubt me. Bad move EVGA to sell this like it is. $200.00 in the toilet.... 
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/14 01:51:07 (permalink)
Been using my ASrock board for a few days, works like a charm! No weird bios glitches, I can use 600 series cards again, got my ram back up to 1600mhz, no more random crashes, and I saved my self $55 after refund. Seriously, I really tried to like the stinger, but even though it looks great, it is complete utter **** of a board.

I highly reconmmend the ASRock board if your looking for a solid experience. Easily overclocked to 4.8ghz.
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/14 02:02:13 (permalink)
The powers that be at EVGA had better get off their collective rear ends and find someone capable of writing competent bios's while you still have a mobo division.  


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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/14 04:05:10 (permalink)
Give EVGA some time to address the BIOS issues.  The more the BIOS is screwy, the more time it takes to correct them.  It could be worse, like the BIOS not working at all.  At least you can get started within the intended limits.  Just seems overclocking the hardware is the problem.
 
As for calling MS to reset your OS ID.  That shouldn't be an issue.  Done it before many times.  Just when you call them and they ask "how many PC's have this software installed on", answer is "1".  Also, when I swapped mobo from the Asrock to EVGA, I wasn't prompted to call for a OS key reset.  It accepted the new hardware changes.

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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/14 12:35:47 (permalink)
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Give EVGA some time to address the BIOS issues.  The more the BIOS is screwy, the more time it takes to correct them.  It could be worse, like the BIOS not working at all.  At least you can get started within the intended limits.  Just seems overclocking the hardware is the problem.

As for calling MS to reset your OS ID.  That shouldn't be an issue.  Done it before many times.  Just when you call them and they ask "how many PC's have this software installed on", answer is "1".  Also, when I swapped mobo from the Asrock to EVGA, I wasn't prompted to call for a OS key reset.  It accepted the new hardware changes.

In normal circumstances, I would wait for a new BIOS. EVGA does not have a good track record with BIOS development . Just look at Stingers big brother, the Z77 FTW's BIOS problems. I need a stable platform. I can not even run at stock speeds without problems. And it will most likely be a long time before they get it working right. I wonder why they needed to delay the release of this mobo ,and if it was a BIOS or harware issue. I also wonder if they changed the hardware and not the BIOS. In any case, a $200.00 mobo should never get released without some testing. If they did test it, they knew about the issues. I will replace it because I do not wish to wait for 2 years for a BIOS. I can't even sell this one because who wants a mobo that does not work right.
 
My OS is OEM. The end user license agreement does not allow switching motherboard. Only if a rep allows this will they do it. The only other option is waiting for their servers to clear (120 days) if they refuse me. You cant count on them allowing the change with OEM. With retail, you can change as many times as you like. And your key will show what you are changing ,so they will know when you call to reactivate.  
 
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/14 16:08:04 (permalink)
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My OS is OEM. The end user license agreement does not allow switching motherboard. Only if a rep allows this will they do it. The only other option is waiting for their servers to clear (120 days) if they refuse me. You cant count on them allowing the change with OEM. With retail, you can change as many times as you like. And your key will show what you are changing ,so they will know when you call to reactivate.  

Sorry about the rant, but I am steamed (so are others)


My 2x Win7 are also OEM copies.  The first one was registered with an Asrock board and then I switched to the EVGA Stinger.  The second copy was actually an key code from my 'was' new laptop (you can thank friends that dump coffee on keyboards).  So not to let good things go to waste, since I already had a copy of Win7 Home Prem.  I just built a second rig and activated it from my once laptop's OEM key code.  I only had to call it in through an auto-machince to get it reset.  There is a process in which the key code gets turned into 0-9 numbers so you can activate it through a phone.  Very easy process, done it about 3-4 times, takes about 5-10 minutes to do.
 
As for the 120 day wait reset thing.  Never knew about that.

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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/14 16:54:16 (permalink)
Got it to run at 1600. I had to remove one stick. It will not post with two. Both sticks have been throughly tested in a different PC so I know I don't have a bad stick. They are 8GB each. Either way, I have a handicap. Either run 2 @1333 or one @1600. It would also be nice to be able to turn off BT in the BIOS. I suspect it is a dongle that has been placed in a USB port. Another weird thing is my ram is showing a SPD default as 1t cmd rate. It is meant to be 2. And it seems every other time I go into the BIOS, the Azalea codec has enabled itself. One last thing, the Intel NIC drops offline once in a while or acts up causing big problems with Internet. The temp LEDs on the board are not accurate either. Everyone already knows about the overclocking issues. One last thing though no big deal. Other cheaper board allow use of a mouse in their UEFI. Spending $200.00 in this and you would think they could add a bit of sparkle to the BIOS. Though I would much prefer just to have a stable running mobo with OC potential. The hardware is nice, but without a good BIOS it is worthless. 
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/14 23:40:06 (permalink)
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/18 02:02:12 (permalink)
Well, here we go again!
Got my RMA replacement a few days ago and set it up yesterday, all was well until...
Why don't I just post exactly what I emailed EVGA tech support:
 
Received the replacement board and set up the system yesterday. Had no problems installing windows in RAID 0, MB drivers and downloading windows updates. All settings at default. The system was turned on and off several times over the course of several hours without incident. The system was then unplugged from power and all peripherals, and set aside overnight because I was working on two other rigs. Today, I plugged everything back into the system, switched it on and got nothing, a blank screen. The auto-signal-detect on the monitor did not even blink. LED debug code: A2. Everything else seems to be working: LEDs are on, fans are spinning, optical drive functions. I tried switching video cards (3 different ones) from other working systems, but no change. I had no choice but to do a hard reset using the PSU switch. However when I turn the PSU switch back on, the system starts up without touching the power button on the MB and will continue to happen over and over even with the PSU unplugged for a while. Clear CMOS also made no difference, it does not even allow me to see the BIOS. I can't seem to do anything that will get a signal to the monitor. Any suggestions?
 
I hate to say it but it looks like this board truly is a steaming pile of monkey dung.
I have done nothing differently from my various other builds, and I've built quite a few.
The only piece of hardware in recent memory that gave me this much trouble (and 2 RMAs) was the OCZ Revo Hybrid drive. Good idea, poor execution, even worse firmware.
 
I really don't want to play this game anymore...
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Re:EVGA Mini-ITX Z77 2013/01/21 14:44:06 (permalink)
I just noticed a problem with USB3 (from the header). When I connect anything to USB, the video crashes. My ports are not shorted since the old mobo did not have this problem. There is another one for you to fix EVGA...
 
UPDATE
this is only when onboard graphics is enabled in BIOS. I do not have the problem when it is set to PEG only. 
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