Satzlefraz

marttimat
Okay so I followed this guide to the letter and still cannot get to the 1500 speed mark on the card:
 
 
 
It clearly lists that a 72% ASIC card should get to 1500 speeds without issue. 
 
Thanks for the help and let me know if you think I am missing something otherwise I may look into performing a RMA on the card. 

I have a 74% ASIC quality 980ti and it struggles to hit 1400mhz.
 
ASIC means nothing when it comes to clock speeds, just voltage required to maintain clocks

Scarlet-Tech 
You don't seem to understand why the classified was created then.  It wasn't for air overclocking. The 14+3 phase design is meant for exotic cooling, like liquid nitrogen.  It doesn't change anything on air, so your assumption on the VRM may be a misunderstanding. 
 
You could take that core and mount it on the reference PCB, and probably get the same overclocks.  It is a core limitation, not a VRM limitation.  The 14+3 design only helps deliver cleaner power, with less fluctuations, under extremely cold, extremely high voltage settings.  On air and water, it doesn't help or hinder.
 
Not to mention, the SC+ is only $25 cheaper, so you are mostly paying for the stock overclock more than anything. 

mike406
 
Except that it is a completely valid response.  Maxwell is heavily limited on air compared to past generations, you cannot get a much higher voltage without putting it under water or some other exotic cooling. The voltage limits itself to around 1.212V at warm temperatures IIRC but I could be wrong with that value. You could set the voltage up to max on your preferred overclocking software and it will not go higher. Only way around the locked voltage as far as I know when on air is with physically changing the voltage like with evbot or a modded BIOS on cards that allow unlocked voltages (reference PCB is limited to 1.28V IIRC). But any high voltage on Maxwell will probably not be stable on air and really only benefits with exotic cooling. Before turning to immature insults, I'd research a bit on your own and you'll find what he said to be true.

ericbartman
 
 My 980ti SC+ (65%) is pushing 1493 MHz, while my 980ti Classified (78%) is crashing at 1455 MHz.
 

mike406

ericbartman

mike406
 
Except that it is a completely valid response.  Maxwell is heavily limited on air compared to past generations, you cannot get a much higher voltage without putting it under water or some other exotic cooling. The voltage limits itself to around 1.212V at warm temperatures IIRC but I could be wrong with that value. You could set the voltage up to max on your preferred overclocking software and it will not go higher. Only way around the locked voltage as far as I know when on air is with physically changing the voltage like with evbot or a modded BIOS on cards that allow unlocked voltages (reference PCB is limited to 1.28V IIRC). But any high voltage on Maxwell will probably not be stable on air and really only benefits with exotic cooling. Before turning to immature insults, I'd research a bit on your own and you'll find what he said to be true.

Then you missed the entire point of my post.

ericbartman
 
 My 980ti SC+ (65%) is pushing 1493 MHz, while my 980ti Classified (78%) is crashing at 1455 MHz.
 

 
This is all on air. Read the thread before you take your pants off to compare and comment.

ASIC quality does not guarantee a better OC this has been said time and time again...The internals of a card is much more intricate than a single percentage can represent. Like I said, research.

mike406
Where is it flawed? Would you like to provide us with some qualitative data? Perhaps some oscilloscope measurements confirming that it is a pointless feature? Or would you rather continue to get unnecessarily defensive and point fingers at the wrong party? You claim they all have horrible overclocks? How many have you tested? Not every card is a winner. EVGA sells their cards so that they are guaranteed to run AT LEAST the speed rated on the sheet. This does not mean every Classified must beat a FTW or that every FTW must beat an SC when overclocked further. 

mike406
Your only point to me appears to repeatedly tell me to read the thread. I think you're just a little angered over your purchase decision because you misunderstood the purpose of the product.

mike406

ericbartman

mike406
Your only point to me appears to repeatedly tell me to read the thread. I think you're just a little angered over your purchase decision because you misunderstood the purpose of the product.

You are just a work of art. Well denial is the first stage. Stay in it if you wish.

Ad-hominem seems to be your thing...A bit humorous honestly. Aside from your own posts within this thread, where are the 4 others agreeing with you that you claim to be within this thread? Because I honestly do not see them.

ericbartman
This is all on air. If KP thinks that Maxwell can hit it, and it does hit that on SC+, why doesn't it hit it on any 14+3 cards?

ericbartman
 
Bingo! Thanks for saying this Sajin. Silicon is both on chip and card. Lottery on card is what failed.