2021/10/05 16:46:04
lorenzuy88
no worries mate.
2021/10/06 06:05:13
rich595
Thanks for the great info! I have the same rev1.0 card with the OC bios already in place since I recently purchased this 3090. During Timespy benchmarks my card are not getting to 500W though. I see about 460W maximum on GPU-Z. Not overly concerned as I just wanted to see the advertised 500W during benchmarks, but not necessary during regular use.
2021/10/06 13:10:40
BradB111
Hello all,
 
I have a somewhat strange issue that doesn't exactly align with any of the other issues I've seen on this thread, I've spent about an hour and a half searching for someone with a similar issue to save me asking what may have been asked before so my apologies if I have missed it.
 
Here goes:
 
I have 3090 FTW3 Ultra | SN:2012... | black "lips" | Purchased Dec 2020 | Custom loop cooled
 
I have installed the OC bios for my card (With switch in the OC position) and it is showing as BIOS version 94.02.42.80.27
Within Afterburner / PX1 I am able to set my power limit to 119%. So far so good I assume?
 
However it is very rare I get above 104% of my power target resulting in approx. 420W or so.
In regards to balancing Pins 1/2/3 are about 115W / 120W / 110W respectively with the PCI slot however at 74W approx. These are around about the average values I see when testing with all 3 pins looking ok balancing-wise going off other peoples posts. I understand the PCI slot may be a little over spec?
 
What I don't understand is that it seems to be ignoring any setting above 105-107% (stock limits) as GPU-Z is reporting "PerfCap Reason" as "power", as if I still had it set at the lower limit. Surely with the setting of 119% I would still have headroom and I wouldn't see this PerfCap Reason?
 
I have tried to flash multiple times and also via nvflash64 with no luck in getting past 420W.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
2021/10/07 02:19:11
Mindee
BradB111
Hello all,
 
I have a somewhat strange issue that doesn't exactly align with any of the other issues I've seen on this thread, I've spent about an hour and a half searching for someone with a similar issue to save me asking what may have been asked before so my apologies if I have missed it.
 
Here goes:
 
I have 3090 FTW3 Ultra | SN:2012... | black "lips" | Purchased Dec 2020 | Custom loop cooled
 
I have installed the OC bios for my card (With switch in the OC position) and it is showing as BIOS version 94.02.42.80.27
Within Afterburner / PX1 I am able to set my power limit to 119%. So far so good I assume?
 
However it is very rare I get above 104% of my power target resulting in approx. 420W or so.
In regards to balancing Pins 1/2/3 are about 115W / 120W / 110W respectively with the PCI slot however at 74W approx. These are around about the average values I see when testing with all 3 pins looking ok balancing-wise going off other peoples posts. I understand the PCI slot may be a little over spec?
 
What I don't understand is that it seems to be ignoring any setting above 105-107% (stock limits) as GPU-Z is reporting "PerfCap Reason" as "power", as if I still had it set at the lower limit. Surely with the setting of 119% I would still have headroom and I wouldn't see this PerfCap Reason?
 
I have tried to flash multiple times and also via nvflash64 with no luck in getting past 420W.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 




This sounds like the old revision cards. EVGA will swap it out for a newer revision if you email them at: 3090oc AT evga DOT com
2021/10/07 11:14:37
lorenzuy88
rich595
Thanks for the great info! I have the same rev1.0 card with the OC bios already in place since I recently purchased this 3090. During Timespy benchmarks my card are not getting to 500W though. I see about 460W maximum on GPU-Z. Not overly concerned as I just wanted to see the advertised 500W during benchmarks, but not necessary during regular use.


According to previous posts (by andressergio, etc), this is normal with the new revision cards (REV 1.0 "3982") with the "XOC" bios.
The bios in the REV 1.0 "3982" cards cannot actually pull 500 watts as per spec. I'm not really sure why but they say maybe that was how it was programmed in the BIOS. So the way I understand it is this, it's like for marketing purposes they "enable" 500 watts as the power limit to show that it "can" achieve 500 watts but you actually can't with that "REV 1.0 3982" XOC Bios, with the underlying purpose of being safe or meeting the safe "spec" or something like that. (For some reason the 8 PIN Power #3 cannot pull as much power as #1 and #2. Again programmed in BIOS or something)  Really don't know what's happening with EVGA with this RTX 3000 generation but EVGA is still good with warranty.
 
For the "solution", according to previous posts, you would need to use nvflash to force flash the "REV 0.1 3987" XOC Bios to achieve the 500 watts. This is the "XOC" bios of the Old Revision Card. Basically the suggested solution to your problem is nvflash the XOC Bios for the old revision card to your new revision card. Also suggested to flash it to your "Normal" Bios switch and not to your OC bios switch just for your comparison. If you are not sure of what you are doing, then be careful and further reading and research would always help. There are a lot of good people here who help the community.
 
2021/10/07 11:25:53
lorenzuy88
BradB111
Hello all,
 
I have a somewhat strange issue that doesn't exactly align with any of the other issues I've seen on this thread, I've spent about an hour and a half searching for someone with a similar issue to save me asking what may have been asked before so my apologies if I have missed it.
 
Here goes:
 
I have 3090 FTW3 Ultra | SN:2012... | black "lips" | Purchased Dec 2020 | Custom loop cooled
 
I have installed the OC bios for my card (With switch in the OC position) and it is showing as BIOS version 94.02.42.80.27
Within Afterburner / PX1 I am able to set my power limit to 119%. So far so good I assume?
 
However it is very rare I get above 104% of my power target resulting in approx. 420W or so.
In regards to balancing Pins 1/2/3 are about 115W / 120W / 110W respectively with the PCI slot however at 74W approx. These are around about the average values I see when testing with all 3 pins looking ok balancing-wise going off other peoples posts. I understand the PCI slot may be a little over spec?
 
What I don't understand is that it seems to be ignoring any setting above 105-107% (stock limits) as GPU-Z is reporting "PerfCap Reason" as "power", as if I still had it set at the lower limit. Surely with the setting of 119% I would still have headroom and I wouldn't see this PerfCap Reason?
 
I have tried to flash multiple times and also via nvflash64 with no luck in getting past 420W.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 


As Mindee said, sounds like you have the old REV 0.1 card.
1st step would be to check if you have indeed the REV 0.1 card which you can physically check by removing your card from your system.
Location: where the video card locks in the motherboard.
After confirmation of a REV 0.1 card, then you can eventually email EVGA (read more about power balancing issues in this thread). Please read the 1st page of this thread. Post #2 by arestavo has compiled most of the information you need.
 
Flashing will not help in this case since the problem causing the video card not to reach the desired power consumption is the hardware. So hardware revision was the solution hence REV 1.0 card was made. I might be wrong but this is what I know and understand at this time.
2021/10/09 09:56:33
nataku24
Greetings everyone,
 
First off I want to give a big thank you to the various people in this thread who helped clarify and post a ton of valuable information on how to properly get to the magical 500w limit. With that said, I have a concern that I hope to get some feedback on. I recently got a replacement card (REV 1.0) however I noticed that my temps have gone up pretty significantly. My previous REV 0.1 card usually stayed within the 69-71c range when gaming. For reference, that is with the higher power limit bios installed but no overclock. Now with the new card it hits around 77-78c under the same exact conditions.
 
To make matters worse when I OC the card and give it the full 500w power, it creeps to about 87-88c (with 90-100% fans). Is this normal behavior for these REV 1.0 cards? I have replaced the thermal paste as I figured maybe there was a factory defect on the paste but results stayed the same. Has anyone else experienced any increase in temps from swapping cards or do I possibly have a bad card?
2021/10/09 22:02:02
arestavo
nataku24
Greetings everyone,
 
First off I want to give a big thank you to the various people in this thread who helped clarify and post a ton of valuable information on how to properly get to the magical 500w limit. With that said, I have a concern that I hope to get some feedback on. I recently got a replacement card (REV 1.0) however I noticed that my temps have gone up pretty significantly. My previous REV 0.1 card usually stayed within the 69-71c range when gaming. For reference, that is with the higher power limit bios installed but no overclock. Now with the new card it hits around 77-78c under the same exact conditions.
 
To make matters worse when I OC the card and give it the full 500w power, it creeps to about 87-88c (with 90-100% fans). Is this normal behavior for these REV 1.0 cards? I have replaced the thermal paste as I figured maybe there was a factory defect on the paste but results stayed the same. Has anyone else experienced any increase in temps from swapping cards or do I possibly have a bad card?


Silicon lottery will affect temps/clocks/power draw. You can try a repaste of the GPU, which may or may not help.
2021/10/10 06:10:59
talon951
nataku24
Greetings everyone,
 
First off I want to give a big thank you to the various people in this thread who helped clarify and post a ton of valuable information on how to properly get to the magical 500w limit. With that said, I have a concern that I hope to get some feedback on. I recently got a replacement card (REV 1.0) however I noticed that my temps have gone up pretty significantly. My previous REV 0.1 card usually stayed within the 69-71c range when gaming. For reference, that is with the higher power limit bios installed but no overclock. Now with the new card it hits around 77-78c under the same exact conditions.
 
To make matters worse when I OC the card and give it the full 500w power, it creeps to about 87-88c (with 90-100% fans). Is this normal behavior for these REV 1.0 cards? I have replaced the thermal paste as I figured maybe there was a factory defect on the paste but results stayed the same. Has anyone else experienced any increase in temps from swapping cards or do I possibly have a bad card?




I wonder if they changed something with the cooler.  The 3080 Ti FTW3 runs a lot hotter than the original 3090 also.  Although I never saw temps as high as you are.  At 450w, it would hit about 80C (77C cover off case) at 100% fan.  This is with fairly warm ambient (25-26C).  50w less of course (if you are getting the full 500w).
 
I'm not sure what else could be done.  If you take it apart again, you might check the flatness of the heatsink.  EVGA uses soft thermal pads, so I doubt they are hurting the pressure on the core.  Otherwise, my solution was to buy the hybrid kit.  Not perfect, but well worth the $120 or so. 
2021/10/10 07:00:23
nataku24
arestavo
Silicon lottery will affect temps/clocks/power draw. You can try a repaste of the GPU, which may or may not help.

Unfortunately repasting it did not help with temps. I  appreciate your feedback however.
 
talon951
I wonder if they changed something with the cooler.  The 3080 Ti FTW3 runs a lot hotter than the original 3090 also.  Although I never saw temps as high as you are.  At 450w, it would hit about 80C (77C cover off case) at 100% fan.  This is with fairly warm ambient (25-26C).  50w less of course (if you are getting the full 500w).
 I'm not sure what else could be done.  If you take it apart again, you might check the flatness of the heatsink.  EVGA uses soft thermal pads, so I doubt they are hurting the pressure on the core.  Otherwise, my solution was to buy the hybrid kit.  Not perfect, but well worth the $120 or so. 

Yea it seems odd which is why I decided to check in for feedback. I may take it apart again to check the heatsink as you suggested. Hopefully others can chime in otherwise I'll reach out to EVGA on Monday to see what they say. Worst case as you mentioned I would consider the hybrid kit which I rather avoid due to my case layout (aesthetically speaking) . 

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