2021/09/10 16:40:21
kevinc313
CaliLife17
kevinc313
Take a look at the voltage-frequency curve in AB or X1, the max clock at 1.1V probably isn't much higher or is the 2010mhz you're seeing.  On the stock '500w' bios my card has currently, the max at 1.1V is only 1980mhz on that curve. The 500w should be enough to hit that max clock on most loads, but not all the time.  If you throw +120 or +150 clock at it, should boost to over 2,100mhz no problem, but again not on every load.



So on the Stock shipped bios, I did run TimeSpy Extreme a few times with +120 on the core clock to see if it would push it past 480w (it didnt) and it boosted to about 2115ish. I haven't tried doing any + to the clock on this flashed bios. 

So do you think then I should adjust the voltage curve, or just use adding to the Clock slider? Also then, if they are both set to 1.1v ~ 2010 (either bios) then what good is the voltage slider? 


 
Was getting a 1980mhz reading on AB, but on X1 it's 2,010mhz at 1.1V which is accurate.  Since you are keeping the card cool with custom cooling, the card won't pull any clock due to temps, and you get the full 2,010mhz.  But that's all.  It should never boost above that stock curve on typical loads.  When you add clock with the clock slider, you raise up that curve.
 
The voltage slider increases the max voltage allowed, in 25% increments. IIRC at 0% it's 1.075V or 1.081V max.  You can test this yourself on your card.  The card will be more stable at 1.1V than at 1.075V, given the same clock.  But it might not have enough power to sustain 1.1V on some loads.  So you can fiddle with both sliders. 
 
Some people just run the voltage all the way up, then crank the clock until they start getting crashes.  Or you can start with the voltage at 0% (1.075/1.081V), crank up the OC, and watch what the power limit does.  If it's not hammering the power limit all the time, you can usefully increase the voltage. 
 
What was nice about my 3080 FTW3 Hybrid with 450w bios is that having 5/6th's the cores and memory of a 3080 Ti, is that it could spend plenty of time around 2,070-2,115mhz and 1.075-1.1V, which the 3080 Ti can't easily do.  Which is why I got the 3090 FTW3, higher PL, though I haven't had a change to try the other bios and fiddle with it.
 
2021/09/17 13:26:27
cwills75
arestavo
Frantastic1
Thanks for your reply. Are you referring to the original bios Jacob posted? This wont have rebar compatability though? Also will this mess up the fans on a hybrid card? Thanks again....Fran

You'll need to find the , or find the tool that can extract it from EVGA's flash tool. Yes, it might have REBAR if it's for the 0.1 revision card and it was the REBAR version, and not the first 500W VBIOS that was released.
 
You might need to get ahold of it from someone with the card, though. Finding the hybrid VBIOS appears to be an effort in futility. 
 
EDIT: I found an original Hybrid 0.1 revision VBIOS w/o rebar and PMed you a download link. You'll need PX1 to update it to REBAR compatible, and I recommend using GPU-Z to save that REBAR version so you have it. Keep one of your two VBIOS stock, just in case you need to ever RMA.




I have the FTW3 Ultra w/Hybrid kit installed.  I'm only pulling in around 460W max, do you have a link for the 500W Hybrid VBIOS you mention here?
2021/09/17 16:08:00
arestavo
cwills75
arestavo
Frantastic1
Thanks for your reply. Are you referring to the original bios Jacob posted? This wont have rebar compatability though? Also will this mess up the fans on a hybrid card? Thanks again....Fran

You'll need to find the , or find the tool that can extract it from EVGA's flash tool. Yes, it might have REBAR if it's for the 0.1 revision card and it was the REBAR version, and not the first 500W VBIOS that was released.
 
You might need to get ahold of it from someone with the card, though. Finding the hybrid VBIOS appears to be an effort in futility. 
 
EDIT: I found an original Hybrid 0.1 revision VBIOS w/o rebar and PMed you a download link. You'll need PX1 to update it to REBAR compatible, and I recommend using GPU-Z to save that REBAR version so you have it. Keep one of your two VBIOS stock, just in case you need to ever RMA.




I have the FTW3 Ultra w/Hybrid kit installed.  I'm only pulling in around 460W max, do you have a link for the 500W Hybrid VBIOS you mention here?


https://ufile.io/9cuwnzqt 
2021/09/18 21:06:00
kardus
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2021/09/20 02:42:38
AlpAne
AlpAne
AlpAne
After some time of testing and hitting over 80W for PCIe slot in GPU-Z I finally took the leap and sent my request for replacement to 3090OC. Awaiting answer for special replacement.
 
Thanks for all the information and help I got from this forum thread!

For you that have gone through the special replacement procedure, how many business days can one expect to wait to get a reply after sending request e-mail til ?



Hey all,
 
Just want to let you know I've got my special replacement RMA approved and shipping my card to EVGA today with UPS. I'll let you know what card I get as replacement, first for digits of S/N, PCB Rev and testing results. Keeping my fingers crossed I get a brand new card with S/N starting with 2112 or 2114 and PCB Rev 1.0 with new revised/updated PWM controller.
 
Thank you again to all that have helped me with information on this matter! Stay safe and happy OC:ing 
2021/09/21 19:31:20
lorenzuy88
EVGA_JacobF
Thanks for clarifying Jacob, and you are confident that all of the RMA cards that will start shipping in a week will have fully resolved the underlying power balance issue? Also will you be allowing a second RMA for any that still experience the issue with the replacement cards?



If second RMA is needed we can work on a case by case basis, but I would be very surprised if a second would be needed for this particular symptom. Of course if anything else were to go wrong the card has full warranty.


Hi Jacob,
 
Not sure if this post is ok and not sure where to ask for help and feedback. Sorry mods if this does not conform to the right format. Not posting a lot but constantly reading here.
 
Emailed this to 3090OC@evga.com

My card was replaced with the SAME Rev 0.1 Card (Red Lips). It is now very much worse than my old card with power balancing issues WORSE. I am only hitting 420 watts with this with 400 watts average.
 
Why did EVGA Taiwan send me the same old Rev 0.1 Card with Red Lips? The new fixed cards are Rev 1.0. The OC BIOS switch did not even have the XOC BIOS Installed. Still the old 94.02.26.48.16. Did they not know about the 3090OC replacement program? I spent around $200 (AUD) to send this to Taiwan only to receive a very bad card? Please help me. I am really so disappointed with the current situation and customer service I am receiving. I spent 200 AUD and waited for nothing.
If it was not going to be fixed I could have waited for a few more months if needed. I thought customer service and the technical team knew about this? Why should I spend $200 for no change and no fix at all. Is EVGA going to want me to spend for shipping again with no assurance of this being fixed at all?
 
I first emailed on Mar 9, 2021 and I waited for 6 months just to be sent the same old malfunctioning card? Please assist.
 
Thank you very much.
2021/09/21 20:16:06
arestavo
lorenzuy88
EVGA_JacobF
Thanks for clarifying Jacob, and you are confident that all of the RMA cards that will start shipping in a week will have fully resolved the underlying power balance issue? Also will you be allowing a second RMA for any that still experience the issue with the replacement cards?



If second RMA is needed we can work on a case by case basis, but I would be very surprised if a second would be needed for this particular symptom. Of course if anything else were to go wrong the card has full warranty.


Hi Jacob,

Not sure if this post is ok and not sure where to ask for help and feedback. Sorry mods if this does not conform to the right format. Not posting a lot but constantly reading here.

Emailed this to 3090OC@evga.com

My card was replaced with the SAME Rev 0.1 Card (Red Lips). It is now very much worse than my old card with power balancing issues WORSE. I am only hitting 420 watts with this with 400 watts average.

Why did EVGA Taiwan send me the same old Rev 0.1 Card with Red Lips? The new fixed cards are Rev 1.0. The OC BIOS switch did not even have the XOC BIOS Installed. Still the old 94.02.26.48.16. Did they not know about the 3090OC replacement program? I spent around $200 (AUD) to send this to Taiwan only to receive a very bad card? Please help me. I am really so disappointed with the current situation and customer service I am receiving. I spent 200 AUD and waited for nothing.
If it was not going to be fixed I could have waited for a few more months if needed. I thought customer service and the technical team knew about this? Why should I spend $200 for no change and no fix at all. Is EVGA going to want me to spend for shipping again with no assurance of this being fixed at all?

I first emailed on Mar 9, 2021 and I waited for 6 months just to be sent the same old malfunctioning card? Please assist.

Thank you very much.


https://www.evga.com/about/contactus/ to get ahold of EVGA.
2021/09/21 21:05:17
lorenzuy88
Thank you. I hope EVGA_JacobF can still read this message though since I am still unable to send a private message directly.
2021/09/21 21:12:22
arestavo
lorenzuy88
Thank you. I hope EVGA_JacobF can still read this message though since I am still unable to send a private message directly.


You'd likely.stand a better chance of contacting EVGA's Jacob via Twitter than you would on this user to user help forum.
2021/09/21 21:21:30
lorenzuy88
Thanks again arestavo. I actually haven't posted anything on twitter yet. hehe I haven't logged in in years. I think I just made a twitter account to join a raffle or something then did not use it again. Isn't it that twitter has a character limit on posting? So I'll still be unable to copy paste my message. Thinking of what to write actually. Thanks.

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