2021/09/03 07:35:20
arestavo
andressergio
arestavo
AlpAne
Thanks a lot for your reply, I really appriciate it!

I understand how to use and read the values from GPU-Z. Can you please give me some advice if I need to use Precision X1 or After Burner for OC and what values I should use for the OC for this testing? I also need to know which BIOS version I should use for testing and if I should use it in Normal or OC mode on the siwtch on the card?

Thanks again in advance!


Use the card without an overclock and get the readings. Use the 500W or 450W VBIOS, dealers choice. If you have a new revision 1.0 card, it comes with the 500W VBIOS on the OC switch by default - don't forget to reboot if you flip the VBIOS switch. Otherwise, there's no difference other than fan speed between the OC and normal VBIOS switch on the 0.1 revision card.

If your readings are out of tolerance, go to the first page of this thread, second post, and read what EVGA's Jacob said about the special RMA program. If the PCIE slot power is out of tolerance, you may have to do a normal RMA if they don't want to use the special RMA program for it.



arestavo: RMA Program Cards are rev 1.0 PCB, they come with a 107% PT Normal VBIOS (450W) and a 119% PT OC (XOC 467W) VBIOS, this last can't pull more than that for many reasons we discussed before. The only VBIOS that works and goes (in my case) to 506W is the 94.02.42.80.27 and the card runs great on air, if in water the better.

All the Best, Sergio!


I'm just going off of what EVGA Jacob called it - the XOC 500W VBIOS. If it is really only a 467W VBIOS, then EVGA lied.
2021/09/03 07:48:45
kevinc313
arestavo
I'm just going off of what EVGA Jacob called it - the XOC 500W VBIOS. If it is really only a 467W VBIOS, then EVGA lied.



I'll run mine on the power meter before reflashing.
2021/09/06 15:05:22
andressergio
arestavo
andressergio
arestavo
AlpAne
Thanks a lot for your reply, I really appriciate it!

I understand how to use and read the values from GPU-Z. Can you please give me some advice if I need to use Precision X1 or After Burner for OC and what values I should use for the OC for this testing? I also need to know which BIOS version I should use for testing and if I should use it in Normal or OC mode on the siwtch on the card?

Thanks again in advance!


Use the card without an overclock and get the readings. Use the 500W or 450W VBIOS, dealers choice. If you have a new revision 1.0 card, it comes with the 500W VBIOS on the OC switch by default - don't forget to reboot if you flip the VBIOS switch. Otherwise, there's no difference other than fan speed between the OC and normal VBIOS switch on the 0.1 revision card.

If your readings are out of tolerance, go to the first page of this thread, second post, and read what EVGA's Jacob said about the special RMA program. If the PCIE slot power is out of tolerance, you may have to do a normal RMA if they don't want to use the special RMA program for it.



arestavo: RMA Program Cards are rev 1.0 PCB, they come with a 107% PT Normal VBIOS (450W) and a 119% PT OC (XOC 467W) VBIOS, this last can't pull more than that for many reasons we discussed before. The only VBIOS that works and goes (in my case) to 506W is the 94.02.42.80.27 and the card runs great on air, if in water the better.

All the Best, Sergio!


I'm just going off of what EVGA Jacob called it - the XOC 500W VBIOS. If it is really only a 467W VBIOS, then EVGA lied.



Yes It's only 467Watt, tested by me and many others on PCB rev 1.0 Cards, I have now 2 of them and can confirm this. For that reason I took the time to explain on previous posts, still people don't quite read it and keep asking the same...
2021/09/06 15:15:30
andressergio
s3raphi
I have read the last 20 pages or so, but this is still not perfectly clear to me:
 
I had an original 3090 Hybrid with power balancing issues, so I recently RMA'd it. The new card I received has the 500w XOC in the second slot by default. I assume this means it is 1.0? I can only pull ~460w on this card.
As I understand from this thread, I will need to flash 94.02.42.80.27 in order to actually hit 500w. The only download link to 94.02.42.80.27 that I can find is on techpowerup, and it is for a FTW3 Ultra (not hybyrid).
 
1. Will this non-hybrid BIOS work, or will this cause issues since I have a hybrid?
2. How can I tell which PCB revision the BIOS on techpowerup is actually for? How can I tell which one I have? I assume I have the new one, since my replacement card came with XOC in slot2.
3. Will EVGA Precision X1 still  work? It seems to like to "update the firmware" of EVGA cards, and I have had problems with it when switching BIOS to other cards in the past.
 
Thanks in advance.

 
I will try to help you even though all is posted on previews pages by me
 
1) RMA Program Cards should be PCB rev 1.0, you need to check on the PCIe Slot of the GPU you recieved, I have 2 of them both say 1.0 there
 
2) EVGA XOC BIOS on second position doesn't pull 500W no matter what you do. I've tested on both cards and max I get (as others tested) is 467W, for that reason I flashed the VBIOS you mention and that I recommended 
 
3) As the real XOC 500W VBIOS is for the FTW3 Ultra Gaming and NOT for the Hybrid it will flash your firmware and probably mess up the RGB and/or Fans. In my case I have the FTW3 Ultra Gaming and installed the Hybrid so I didn't have any problems, it wasn't originally Hybrid. I saw someone who converted it to the Hybrid or something like that but was a long time ago and I can't find it, he even bypassed the Firmware Update with a VBIOS Editor.
 
4) As for PX1 will work and will flash the firmware that your card needs not other if you didn't touch the VBIOS yet
 
All the Best, Sergio!
 
 
2021/09/07 00:56:34
AlpAne
After some time of testing and hitting over 80W for PCIe slot in GPU-Z I finally took the leap and sent my request for replacement to 3090OC. Awaiting answer for special replacement.
 
Thanks for all the information and help I got from this forum thread!
2021/09/08 01:31:28
AlpAne
AlpAne
After some time of testing and hitting over 80W for PCIe slot in GPU-Z I finally took the leap and sent my request for replacement to 3090OC. Awaiting answer for special replacement.
 
Thanks for all the information and help I got from this forum thread!



For you that have gone through the special replacement procedure, how many business days can one expect to wait to get a reply after sending request e-mail til 3090oc@evga.com?
2021/09/10 10:36:51
forknmybut
They are pretty quick. It gets approved within a day or so but you need to provide a credit card for collateral. Once I provided that I was able to get a new card in like 3 or 4 days (including the holiday weekend got my weekends mixed up as I installed it on the holiday weekend).  As for the new rev 1.0 card the fan controllers are not working on mine.  Fans 1 and 2 are always running at 100% (but shows 0 RPM and 53% in all monitoring tools).  Changing the speed in Precision X1 doesn't do anything except for the 3rd fan.  Also all my ICX temps are 0 degrees in Precision X1 except for the GPU1 temp.  Other monitoring tools seem to be able to read the ICX temps fine.  Anyone ever run into this?  I have a ticket open with EVGA but they just told me to remove PX1, DDU, restart and reinstall which hasn't fixed the issue.  Switching the fan connecters around doesn't change the readouts/speed from fan 1 and 2 (just the fans they are connected to).
2021/09/10 13:12:19
CaliLife17
Hey all, 
 
So I have 2 3090 FTW3 that have gone through special program. First is an Air Cooled version that I just put an Optimus Block with XL heatsink on. 2nd is the HC version, just got new one yesterday, still haven't opened yet.
 
Both were .1 rev with high PCIe power draw. Both are now 1.0 version.
 
Also just swapped out my MOBO to the new Asus x570 Extreme, and fresh install of W11 Pro. 
 
For the Optimus block one, in the OC bios switch it was getting no more that about 475-479w total draw running TimeSpy Extreme. Power set to 119, Voltage set to 100. Didn't touch clock and maxed out and stayed at 2010. 
 
Just flashed the 94.02.42.80.27 bios, and ran the test again, with same setup (119% pwr, 100 voltage, +0 on clock). What I noticed though is yes my Board now hits 505 power draw, but the max boost clock it did was still just 2010, and avg was a little down from C0 02 bios (2005 vs 1995). 
 
Curious why its auto boost wouldn't go any higher with the additional 20% watts? PerfCap reason was still Power. Will need to play with manual overclock, but was bummed that auto boost took more power, yet didn't improve anything. Thoughts?
2021/09/10 16:12:48
kevinc313
CaliLife17
Hey all, 
 
So I have 2 3090 FTW3 that have gone through special program. First is an Air Cooled version that I just put an Optimus Block with XL heatsink on. 2nd is the HC version, just got new one yesterday, still haven't opened yet.
 
Both were .1 rev with high PCIe power draw. Both are now 1.0 version.
 
Also just swapped out my MOBO to the new Asus x570 Extreme, and fresh install of W11 Pro. 
 
For the Optimus block one, in the OC bios switch it was getting no more that about 475-479w total draw running TimeSpy Extreme. Power set to 119, Voltage set to 100. Didn't touch clock and maxed out and stayed at 2010. 
 
Just flashed the 94.02.42.80.27 bios, and ran the test again, with same setup (119% pwr, 100 voltage, +0 on clock). What I noticed though is yes my Board now hits 505 power draw, but the max boost clock it did was still just 2010, and avg was a little down from C0 02 bios (2005 vs 1995). 
 
Curious why its auto boost wouldn't go any higher with the additional 20% watts? PerfCap reason was still Power. Will need to play with manual overclock, but was bummed that auto boost took more power, yet didn't improve anything. Thoughts?




Take a look at the voltage-frequency curve in AB or X1, the max clock at 1.1V probably isn't much higher or is the 2010mhz you're seeing.  On the stock '500w' bios my card has currently, the max at 1.1V is 2010mhz on that curve (X1). The 500w should be enough to hit that max clock on most loads, but not all the time.  If you throw +120 or +150 clock at it, should boost to over 2,100mhz no problem, but again not on every load.
2021/09/10 16:22:36
CaliLife17
kevinc313
Take a look at the voltage-frequency curve in AB or X1, the max clock at 1.1V probably isn't much higher or is the 2010mhz you're seeing.  On the stock '500w' bios my card has currently, the max at 1.1V is only 1980mhz on that curve. The 500w should be enough to hit that max clock on most loads, but not all the time.  If you throw +120 or +150 clock at it, should boost to over 2,100mhz no problem, but again not on every load.



So on the Stock shipped bios, I did run TimeSpy Extreme a few times with +120 on the core clock to see if it would push it past 480w (it didnt) and it boosted to about 2115ish. I haven't tried doing any + to the clock on this flashed bios. 

So do you think then I should adjust the voltage curve, or just use adding to the Clock slider? Also then, if they are both set to 1.1v ~ 2010 (either bios) then what good is the voltage slider? 
 
EDIT: Using X1 Precision for adjustments just fyi

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