Mine is pulling around 70W with default bios and no OC (for a total of ~370W)
With the 500W bios, the card is doing 420-425W max with 75-78W on PCIE slot.
 
And 100% of time perfcap pwr (@119%).

arestavo

eXp67

arestavo

DSychev
I absolutely agree that the 1000w bios is reckless for every day use. That leads me to my original question. How do I get the performance that's on the box of this GPU back? Here's a screenshot of the same card running on the XOC bios available in the first post of this thread. Why is the card drawing 90% TDP with the power target slider set to 119%? Flashing the card back to it's original bios produces the same results. 

Your PCIE slot power draw is 79W. The spec is 75. Your card is over spec, and the performance cap (perfcap) is power.

Flash the stock VBIOS and test without overclock. If the PCIE slot power remains over 75W, RMA and get a card that IS within spec.

Hello,
 
I don't understand your problem with PCI-E. Mine reach 500W (FTW3 ultra) with UP to 89W on PCI-E on peaks.
 
So what's the problem if PCI-E > 75W ?  No problem right ? My card is reaching without anyproblem the 500W, so your problem is not realted to > 75W PCI-E drawing ???
 
Regards,

Again, for the 42nd time:

The universal standard for maximum power draw from the PCie slot is 75W max. I didn't set that, some geeks with a hard on for making standards did. Standards are there so stuff going boom boom doesn't happen as often.

If your card exceeds 75W on the stock VBIOS without overclocking the GPU core or VRAM, your card is exceeding the PCIE specification that every company should be following (remember the AMD RX480 debacle a few years ago?)

Yours drawing 89W continuous with a total board power draw of 500W is great. Good for you. It's still out of spec - but at least your card is capable of getting to 500. Most cards can't when they exceed 79W or so, which seems to be the throttle point for FTW3 cards (except yours for some reason, or those who flash the warranty voiding 1000W kingpin VBIOS).

At this point I'm going to stop repeating myself and ask that people read this thread instead of asking the same questions over and over again. It's all here for those that care to read.

Ok thanks for explain again the details. I read the previous thread and this problem before. Thats why i was nervous to buy the card.
 
But are you sure, the problem is coming at 100% from the PCI-E power delivery ?
Do we have compared with another MSI/ASUS/AORUS brand the power delivery of PCI-E ?
 
I do another test and this is the result in my screenshot:
- 510,6W max
- PCI-E @ 84.2W
- TDP @ 121.6%
- 8 pin 1/2/3 @ 147 / 146 / 132.7W
   > We are loosing 15W on the last PIN ( 84.2 - 15 =  69,2W for the PCI-E it could be at better scenario)
 
In fact i didn't tested the card in stock mode. When i get it i set "OC mode" + flash XOC bios at first boot (lol).
So maybe my card was 66W or below 75W before stock bios and standard mode, i don't want to flash back the old one :)
 
All seems correct with my card ?
Is this normal the XOC bios allow higher than 75W PCI-E ? if the PCI-E limit is 125W, why didn't unlock it with an XOC bios per example ? It can always be better for watercooler overlockers to push the card to higher limit (~575W)
 
Regards,
 
 

lobstar
RMA black lipped card is a little better than the first but now draws 86w on the PCIE.  I'm done, I'm just selling the card and never buying EVGA again.  Two weeks for a RMA to have the same issues and ABOSLUTELY NO WORD FROM EVGA TO RECOGNIZE THE PROBLEM.  

THATS A BIG PROBLEM!!!
I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR FOR 2 WEEKS FOR THE SAME PCIE-ISSUE! 
 
IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIX A FTW3 ULTRA WITH A BETTER BIOS? (NO XC3, NO BETA)

Iirc, doesn't Nvidia limit gpu usage for furmark through drivers? Also, you don't want high draw of 125w+ through the pcie slot is because you'll probably damage or melt it. You have to think of the temperature from the power going through the slot itself.

I don't think temperatures really help. Have an Optimus block and I still can't get the thing to consistently have it hit power limits, always power limited at about 465ish average.

Using the 1000w xoc bios at 55% was nice though for the short benchmark time, a smooth 2205 clock with no drops or perf cap.

 If you score 14K + in port royal i wound't exchange my card even i see 80w on pcie but if you score lower then rma it. this is what i think.

changboy
 If you score 14K + in port royal i wound't exchange my card even i see 80w on pcie but if you score lower then rma it. this is what i think.

I just got 14k at PR (exactly 13948)
 
Max power draw = 477.2W Max
PCI @ 79.7W Max
TDP @ 113.6%Max
Perfcap reason : Pwr
 
Problem ? :)

originxt
Iirc, doesn't Nvidia limit gpu usage for furmark through drivers? Also, you don't want high draw of 125w+ through the pcie slot is because you'll probably damage or melt it. You have to think of the temperature from the power going through the slot itself.

I don't think temperatures really help. Have an Optimus block and I still can't get the thing to consistently have it hit power limits, always power limited at about 465ish average.

Using the 1000w xoc bios at 55% was nice though for the short benchmark time, a smooth 2205 clock with no drops or perf cap.

Is this 1000W bios unlocked can kill the card in a daily use gaming ? Knowing it will be break warranty ... ?
Using this bios breaks the RGB or any stock feature of the FTW3 Ultra ?

eXp67

originxt
Iirc, doesn't Nvidia limit gpu usage for furmark through drivers? Also, you don't want high draw of 125w+ through the pcie slot is because you'll probably damage or melt it. You have to think of the temperature from the power going through the slot itself.

I don't think temperatures really help. Have an Optimus block and I still can't get the thing to consistently have it hit power limits, always power limited at about 465ish average.

Using the 1000w xoc bios at 55% was nice though for the short benchmark time, a smooth 2205 clock with no drops or perf cap.

Is this 1000W bios unlocked can kill the card in a daily use gaming ? Knowing it will be break warranty ... ?
Using this bios breaks the RGB or any stock feature of the FTW3 Ultra ?

The 1000W bios is designed for LN2.  It has NO thermal protections because of that purpose.  I believe some can be re-enabled in the Classified tool.  It won't kill a card that has PROPER heat protection, but if you have even so much as one thermal pad not placed properly, either the VRM or VRAM will happily cook and fry itself because the card won't be allowed to protectively heat throttle or shutdown.
 
Two users have already fried their (non eVGA) cards with that vbios--both of them irresponsible users who claimed to have thermal issues after using it.

eXp67

originxt
Iirc, doesn't Nvidia limit gpu usage for furmark through drivers? Also, you don't want high draw of 125w+ through the pcie slot is because you'll probably damage or melt it. You have to think of the temperature from the power going through the slot itself.

I don't think temperatures really help. Have an Optimus block and I still can't get the thing to consistently have it hit power limits, always power limited at about 465ish average.

Using the 1000w xoc bios at 55% was nice though for the short benchmark time, a smooth 2205 clock with no drops or perf cap.

Is this 1000W bios unlocked can kill the card in a daily use gaming ? Knowing it will be break warranty ... ?
Using this bios breaks the RGB or any stock feature of the FTW3 Ultra ?

I can't say if it'll break your card. It's a fully unlocked bios with no thermal limits. Technically if your Temps are in check, the card should be fine but I still don't recommend it. My cards Temps hit a max of 45c on everything including power with the core maxed at 38c. I was only benching PR though. My card has a block and has most components covered via thermal pads and a fan on the backplate.


You'll be flashing a kingpin bios, icx features still work but unsure on rgb. I Highly recommend you don't use it unless you're under water, the air cooler isn't enough imo. Classified tools don't work as you actually need the kingpin card. You're basically just raising power limits and removing protections.

eXp67 I dont see any problem in ur card :)
 
Just look at youtube review and you will find many rtx-3090 score 12 750 in port royal !
 
So thinking the ftw3 under performing is far from the true unless you have a card with a real problem.
Some buy a strix rtx-3090 and cant hit 14k in port royal but i also saw some score 15k.
 
So over 14k in port royal and up its a silicon lotery, 15k coz you won the jackpot.
But like i said in a previous post even some dude score 15k its barely noticeable once in game at 4k coz fps will always goes up and down and 14.3k vs 15k its about 1.5 fps in 4k gaming if its not less !
 
And for 15.6k to 16k you need mod your card and void the warranty for 1k in benchmark ? is this worth it ?
Me i dont think i dont do benchmark contest and anyway you will always find someone who will beat you.
Kingpin itself broke or killed many cards do be in top 5. That's mean even with the kingpin card, just a limited amount of card will peform better then the others.