mjemirzian2

Clayman31

mjemirzian2
Got a FTW3 Ultra that had the same limiting problems with the 500w bios. Flashed the XOC bios as suggested and performance improved greatly. Got +134 core and +850 mem in MSI AB. Not bad for being on air. Since I can't seem to post links:
 
Time Spy Score 19 276 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090(1x) and Intel Core i9-7900X Processor
Graphics Score    21 640
CPU Score    11 906

Port Royal 14 367 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090(1x) and Intel Core i9-7900X Processor
Graphics Score    14 367

You had problems with the 500w XOC bios so you flashed...what bios? The 1000w bios?

I first tried the 500w FTW3 Ultra bios available in the first post, then switched to the XC3 bios. I don't think I'll be trying the 1000w bios.
Think I got the XOC and XC3 names confused.

Oh wow so the XC3 bios allows you to pull 500w as well? I didn't know that.

So what OC tool should I use if I am going to just go off of Stock Bios for now until this all gets figured out? Right now running my 3090 FTW Ultra on air until my Optimus Block comes in (Hurry up an ship LOL). 

I remember some pages back people said X1 installed some firmware automatically that people didn't like? Can I just use the latest X1 or should I avoid and use like AB?

In port royal i score 14250 with my ftw3 ultra out of the box on air and its a normal score for the normal bios on this card with the switch at oc position. No need any other things. 
 
 If you do something to increase really then you will get a score at around 15 000 in port royal so dont talk your card is super performing with a normal score of 14 300. That's it dude.

mjemirzian2
I first tried the 500w FTW3 Ultra bios available in the first post, then switched to the XC3 bios. I don't think I'll be trying the 1000w bios.
Think I got the XOC and XC3 names confused.

Did you have any problems with the card flashing via PX1?

evgablee
Your situation may be an outlier? Or maybe mine is, but I play cyberpunk at +1300 Ram and 2050 core all day long. The card will only draw the watts when it needs it.

It's not an outlier, the majority of 3090 owners in this thread are reporting it.  Check your draw, if you're actually seeing 500W, ever, you're one of the lucky ones.
 

Clayman31
 
Does the 1000w Kingpin bios solve this issue by giving the vram more power? And if this is the case, then why does my card show 470w to 500w continuous draw depending on the game and yours does not? Not trying to be antagonizing. Just curious.

I'm not going to void my warranty just to try that BIOS, much as I'd love to see if either the 520W or 1000W BIOS fixes it, not gonna risk my card's warranty for it.
 
 

DarkEch0es
Maybe I’m not understanding the first post on the page correctly, but is there no link to the original OC BIOS for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid? All I see is the Normal BIOS and the XOC BIOS.

I just backed up my stock BIOSes with GPUz before flashing to the XOC Beta BIOS on the first page of the thread.
 

BaDBoY_uK

mjemirzian2
I first tried the 500w FTW3 Ultra bios available in the first post, then switched to the XC3 bios. I don't think I'll be trying the 1000w bios.
Think I got the XOC and XC3 names confused.

Did you have any problems with the card flashing via PX1?

 
When others have messed around with other BIOSes, PX1 did try to update Firmware, so if you're going to mess with a BIOS not meant for your card, definitely don't launch PX1 as it will try to flash your card with a firmware that's not meant for it, and possibly brick your card... and if eVGA gets it as an RMA & notices it's firmware is wrong, they will reject your RMA.

Dabadger84

evgablee
Your situation may be an outlier? Or maybe mine is, but I play cyberpunk at +1300 Ram and 2050 core all day long. The card will only draw the watts when it needs it.

It's not an outlier, the majority of 3090 owners in this thread are reporting it.  Check your draw, if you're actually seeing 500W, ever, you're one of the lucky ones.
 

Clayman31
 
Does the 1000w Kingpin bios solve this issue by giving the vram more power? And if this is the case, then why does my card show 470w to 500w continuous draw depending on the game and yours does not? Not trying to be antagonizing. Just curious.

I'm not going to void my warranty just to try that BIOS, much as I'd love to see if either the 520W or 1000W BIOS fixes it, not gonna risk my card's warranty for it.
 
 

The kingpin bios does not void your warranty, as quoted from EVGA terms of service from an earlier post. The PX1 firmware also wouldn't brick the FTW3, at it has a bios switch. Could just switch to the second bios.

Dabadger84
When others have messed around with other BIOSes, PX1 did try to update Firmware, so if you're going to mess with a BIOS not meant for your card, definitely don't launch PX1 as it will try to flash your card with a firmware that's not meant for it, and possibly brick your card... and if eVGA gets it as an RMA & notices it's firmware is wrong, they will reject your RMA.

Good advice, thanks.
 
One question - what's the difference between BIOS and firmware when it comes to graphics cards?

BaDBoY_uK

Dabadger84
When others have messed around with other BIOSes, PX1 did try to update Firmware, so if you're going to mess with a BIOS not meant for your card, definitely don't launch PX1 as it will try to flash your card with a firmware that's not meant for it, and possibly brick your card... and if eVGA gets it as an RMA & notices it's firmware is wrong, they will reject your RMA.

Good advice, thanks.
 
One question - what's the difference between BIOS and firmware when it comes to graphics cards?

Firmware controls fans LEDs etc, BIOS controls clocks/voltages, or something to that effect.  And I should've said "they might reject your RMA", that's not a for certain thing.
 
And someone can say the TOS or whatever says they wouldn't reject a warranty claim from running that BIOS, until someone RMAs a card with the 1000W BIOS on a non-Kingpin card & eVGA actually allows the RMA, I won't believe it.  I will always be on the side of caution when it comes to that stuff, at the end of the day, it's your card, if you're comfortable doing it, give it a try.  I wouldn't.

Dabadger84
Firmware controls fans LEDs etc, BIOS controls clocks/voltages, or something to that effect.  And I should've said "they might reject your RMA", that's not a for certain thing.
 
And someone can say the TOS or whatever says they wouldn't reject a warranty claim from running that BIOS, until someone RMAs a card with the 1000W BIOS on a non-Kingpin card & eVGA actually allows the RMA, I won't believe it.  I will always be on the side of caution when it comes to that stuff, at the end of the day, it's your card, if you're comfortable doing it, give it a try.  I wouldn't.

Good info thanks. Makes sense. But on the issue of flashing BIOS', what is the one on the front page designed for then? Can we flash those as long as they are for the right card?