2021/01/09 19:25:10
bavor
Notchy44
evgablee
Your situation may be an outlier? Or maybe mine is, but I play cyberpunk at +1300 Ram and 2050 core all day long. The card will only draw the watts when it needs it.



I can guarantee you that clocking ur ram to 1300+ is losing you fps. Try around 850-1000 in games and see ur fps jump. 



On my FTW3 Ultra cards, I kept increasing the VRAM overclock until the benchmark scores dropped.  Two of the three cards were stable and still increasing benchmark scores with VRAM Overclocks above +1,100 MHz.  One didn't have benchmark scores drop until the VRAM OC was above +1,250 MHz.  
 
You can't say that anyone is getting lower FPS with fast VRAM overclocks.  Maybe his VRAM is better than mien and +1,300 actually works.  Who knows?
 
Of course I'd say that maybe he should start lower and keep going up to test it to see where the limit is.
2021/01/10 01:04:51
krs360
DarkEch0es
Maybe I’m not understanding the first post on the page correctly, but is there no link to the original OC BIOS for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid? All I see is the Normal BIOS and the XOC BIOS.


 
Toward the bottom of his post there's two bioses for your card normal and oc just refer to the switch position on the card. XOC bios is further up.
2021/01/10 01:12:51
LegendOfSomething
JLerch
LegendOfSomething
Does any one know why when running a heavy raytracing game, it draws more power? Does it have to do with the core or vram over clock? My undervolt OC holds 2000mhz when up to temps at any non rt game with +750 mem, but when i play a game with Ray tracing, I start bumping power limit again and drops my clocks to 1900ish. Does ray tracing  games use more vram and cause the added power draw making me hit power limit?  Thanks


I am by no means an expert, but I do remember reading somewhere that RT does increase vram usage quite a bit. So makes sense that there could be a higher power draw.



That could definitely make sense especially because people have been avoiding power limit just by down clocking vram also. interesting.
2021/01/10 05:59:37
RaulKodrum
krs360
DarkEch0es
Maybe I’m not understanding the first post on the page correctly, but is there no link to the original OC BIOS for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid? All I see is the Normal BIOS and the XOC BIOS.


 
Toward the bottom of his post there's two bioses for your card normal and oc just refer to the switch position on the card. XOC bios is further up.




Those two pair of BIOS are not for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid and thus, when you try to install them the installer says there is no hardware present that matches the BIOS requirement.
 
Another one here looking for the default BIOS pair for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid.
 
Any help would be much appreciated...
2021/01/10 06:06:08
arestavo
RaulKodrum
krs360
DarkEch0es
Maybe I’m not understanding the first post on the page correctly, but is there no link to the original OC BIOS for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid? All I see is the Normal BIOS and the XOC BIOS.


 
Toward the bottom of his post there's two bioses for your card normal and oc just refer to the switch position on the card. XOC bios is further up.




Those two pair of BIOS are not for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid and thus, when you try to install them the installer says there is no hardware present that matches the BIOS requirement.
 
Another one here looking for the default BIOS pair for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid.
 
Any help would be much appreciated...


Contact EVGA directly for the VBIOSs: https://www.evga.com/about/contactus/
2021/01/10 06:57:41
mjemirzian2
Got a FTW3 Ultra that had the same limiting problems with the 500w bios. Flashed the XC3 bios as suggested and performance improved greatly. Got +134 core and +850 mem in MSI AB. Not bad for being on air. Since I can't seem to post links:
 
Time Spy Score 19 276 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090(1x) and Intel Core i9-7900X Processor
Graphics Score    21 640
CPU Score    11 906

Port Royal 14 367 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090(1x) and Intel Core i9-7900X Processor
Graphics Score    14 367
2021/01/10 08:28:43
DarkEch0es
arestavo
RaulKodrum
krs360
DarkEch0es
Maybe I’m not understanding the first post on the page correctly, but is there no link to the original OC BIOS for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid? All I see is the Normal BIOS and the XOC BIOS.


 
Toward the bottom of his post there's two bioses for your card normal and oc just refer to the switch position on the card. XOC bios is further up.




Those two pair of BIOS are not for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid and thus, when you try to install them the installer says there is no hardware present that matches the BIOS requirement.
 
Another one here looking for the default BIOS pair for the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid.
 
Any help would be much appreciated...


Contact EVGA directly for the VBIOSs: https://www.evga.com/about/contactus/



I did already and am waiting for a reply, but I was hoping someone on here would have a copy of the BIOS.
2021/01/10 09:27:29
Clayman31
mjemirzian2
Got a FTW3 Ultra that had the same limiting problems with the 500w bios. Flashed the XOC bios as suggested and performance improved greatly. Got +134 core and +850 mem in MSI AB. Not bad for being on air. Since I can't seem to post links:
 
Time Spy Score 19 276 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090(1x) and Intel Core i9-7900X Processor
Graphics Score    21 640
CPU Score    11 906

Port Royal 14 367 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090(1x) and Intel Core i9-7900X Processor
Graphics Score    14 367


You had problems with the 500w XOC bios so you flashed...what bios? The 1000w bios?
2021/01/10 11:15:57
03GLI
Notchy44
03GLI
Notchy44
03GLI
will999999999
I think my card is fine but I don't want to put this BIOS on it because of the plethora of issues people are having in this thread. My card easily hits its original 450W limit fine in benchmarks and heavy games and my PCI-e slot usually hovers around 77W. I would just feel better about EVGA acknowledging some of these issues and providing an new BIOS at some point soon. My card already overclocks pretty well (+140 core / +550 mem) so I really want to see what it can do with the limit raised. I suppose I couldn't hurt anything trying it but I'd rather wait for a new version.


Air cooler is not enough for 500W, you will get nothing more out of it without exotic cooling.
with the Air cooler I suggest undervolting the GPU for better Overclocks , decreased power draw, and lower temperatures.
If you don't mind me asking what is you core clock in game/benchmark while hitting 450w power draw and what is the temperature.


Not true at all... Air cooled is fine with 500w. I saw a 500 point increase with this bios when I was on air. Temps raised to 70c but well under what I was comfortable with. Will you see a much higher score on water? Yes see my post above when I went to the hybrid cooler. 


hmm. I can't get temps below 75 @ 500w with fans at 100%
I get better results and higher clocks when I undervolt the GPU and limit power draw. obviously I can't achieve a maximum possible OC that way but at least the core clock does not drop due to thermals. I should probably pull the cooler and replace the TIM




Do you have bottom fans blowing cold air up into the card? Seems like that was a BIG help for me. In games at 4k I would never see above 70c at 85% fan speed. Benchmarking I had a avg of around 63c at 100% fan speed on air. Here is a link to my best air cooled vs Hybrid cooled. https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/754467/pr/735792


No fan on bottom, I reversed the fan on the side to push air into the case had it set as exhaust, increased the RPM on my 2 140mm intake fans in front and took the dust filter out, and increased the rpm on 140mm fans rad fans on top and the 140mm exhaust on the back. Temps dropped but not by much down to around 72c under load and 100% fan speed while pulling 500w, even with the window open and the case open next to the window I'm not seeing that much of an improvement maybe down to around 67c, going to have to pull the cooler and see ow the TIM is.
On another note I've been voltage curve overclocking and hit a sweet spot of 925MV with a constant clock of 2010mhz, and +669 memory, played RDR2 & cyberpunk for a few hours and no problems. GPU is pulling an average of 50-100w less than with the default voltage curve and temps settle at around 65c at 80% fan speed. If I could get the gpu to run a bit cooler maybe I could try for 900mv and below while trying for a constant 2010mhz clock and 1000GB/s bandwidth.
What TIM is recommended, I haven't done a cooler in a while and have no Idea what's good these days.
2021/01/10 12:09:00
mjemirzian2
Clayman31
mjemirzian2
Got a FTW3 Ultra that had the same limiting problems with the 500w bios. Flashed the XOC bios as suggested and performance improved greatly. Got +134 core and +850 mem in MSI AB. Not bad for being on air. Since I can't seem to post links:
 
Time Spy Score 19 276 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090(1x) and Intel Core i9-7900X Processor
Graphics Score    21 640
CPU Score    11 906

Port Royal 14 367 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090(1x) and Intel Core i9-7900X Processor
Graphics Score    14 367


You had problems with the 500w XOC bios so you flashed...what bios? The 1000w bios?

I first tried the 500w FTW3 Ultra bios available in the first post, then switched to the XC3 bios. I don't think I'll be trying the 1000w bios.
Think I got the XOC and XC3 names confused.

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