god503
What is it with your card that was advertised that you did not get???? 500 watts wasn't advertised. A specific port royal score wasn't advertised... so what's wrong with the cards????

 
115 pages to go through mate go nuts its all there from 80+w PCIE draws to pin3 doing **** all.
The fact that the XC3 bios performs better than the XOC bios on a FTW3 Ultra shows they have no idea what they are doing with this gen.
We are beta testers and these cards are rubbish. Won't even get started on the poor guys who got stuck with the bunk Kingpins... 
 
I'll say it again, My much cheaper 2 pin Eagle OC performs better with a 390w bios than the 3 pin FTW3 Ultra on the XOC bios. 

esschallert
for me something is wrong. I've a 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming, using PrecisionX powertarget at 119%, Clock +140 Mem +1000, never get over 1950 Mhz, checked with Gpu Z the maximum board power draw I got was 385 W Temps at 60°C and this is with the OC Bios on it.

Flash the XC3 bios on your card, might fix it but unfortunetly you wont be able to see an accurate power draw unless you take it from the wall. 

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Was able to get over 500 Watt with beta bios, but many times I could not, I think EVGA Precision X1 is the culprit. Sometimes it takes the settings sometimes it does not, weird. With Precision X1 Open, set to Max Power, Temp and Voltage - max board power draw 513.5 W, max PCI Slot Power 89.1 W. sometimes doing exactly the same above and I could not get the power to max out. No mods done, just got the card today, it has the black lips. How do I put a ****ing clear pic on this forum?  beter quality pic at  (spaced out so it does not get pulled off)     h t t p s : / / i m g u r . c o m /gallery/wiS7Wz6

03GLI
I recently purchased the 3090ftw3 Ultra and have some general questions about overclocking and expected performance boost (FPS) while gaming. and also to see if getting the 500w bios is worth it for gaming. not really into benchmarking scores just FPS in games.
 
I currently have the Bios Switch set to the stock OC bios and have overclocked and stress tested the GPU with an overclock of +248 memory and +105 core, voltage is at 0, power target at 107% temp target at 91c.  This setting pretty much keeps in game clocks at at around 2025mhz with some highs of 2055mhz and and lows of 1995mhz. fan curve is custom with the middle 2 points deleted (70 degrees = 80% fan speed) card settles at around 72 degrees at full load.
Problem is I'm not seeing big FPS improvements maybe like 10 more FPS.
At these settings the GPU at full load is pulling around 430-445W total board power draw, and PCie slot power at 66-70W, I pushed the clocks even higher 669/150 and upped the voltage to 100 but while it's stable in game it's not making any more difference in FPS maybe 1 or 2 more at the most
Is this because I'm hitting the power wall?
If I get the 500w Bios can I expect another 10 fps out of an overclock?
Not sure if the power draw is worth the small increase in FPS over stock OC bios, for example If I use the stock OC bios and keep the power target at 100 and clocks and voltage at +0 I get 10 fps less in games than with the overclock with around 1905mhz core clock, but the board Power draw is around 380-400W, PCIe slot power 62-66W at full load, and temps are below 70 degrees with the same fan curve.
 
Is there a reason I'm not seeing Bigger performance increases from overclocking? my last GPU was a 1080Ti strix, overclocked to 2200mhz and the performance increase from the overclock in gaming FPS was way more than with the 3090.

10 more FPS is about what you should expect from a mild overclock and the first power limit bump.  That's standard fare.  No, a higher power target won't give you another 10 FPS.  These cards basically scale logarithmically on power limit increases, not linearly.  The power scaling goes up DRASTICALLY compared to any framerate improvement once you pass 450W, as all you're doing at that point is stopping the card from dropping a few 15 mhz block steps down, which is a couple of percent at best.  At that point, your gains will be purely on if you can increase core clocks or not.  Being able to do 210 mhz core (and not get throttled) might be worth another 10 mhz.  But you aren't going to be doing +210 core game stable without a NVVDD/MSVDD voltage increase and some custom loop cooling.  Absolutely not on air.  You may see an improvement in benchmarks, but that's it.  Plus, increasing the power limit continuously will just add tons more heat to the card, making it downclock from heat instead from bouncing off the power limit.  You need top tier cooling in order to control both.  We're talking custom loops/chilled water or subzero here.

From all my research, the problem is on the actual PCB layout of the ftw3 card not the software or bios. People with asus strix, msi, and gigabytes are flashing this bios and getting 500-550 watts steady. Idk what evga is doing but they have power load balancing issues on this card making it impossible to get 500 watts or more even with flashing the xoc bios. Something to do with them using a 10 amp fuse on the pcie shunt instead of a 20 amp fuse like competitors? So you can draw only 110 watts vs 220 watts. Incredibly poor design and honestly screws everyone who got the ultra? Why pay an additional price if we can’t even use the third power slot as it is meant to be used. The xc3 outperforms this card in its current state and is significantly cheaper. Seems like evga has dropped the ball this generation bad which sucks because I’ve been waiting for this card in the step up que for 5 months and am about to receive it. I’ll most likely be selling it and trying to get a strix.

Well for me it's working out like this.
 
My 2014 card had no issues with getting to the 500w (or there abouts) power limit but this 2012 replacement is basically the same between the stock and XOC bios. Sometimes see it peak at 470 ish for a second but then it's pulled back hard. Temps about 60 OC.

Again.... someone point me where it says on the box or web page where they stated 500 watts draw.... or a guarantee of an overclock result. I just remember 1800 mhz stock.. ;) since when is a company garbage for not overclocking to ur expectations. As for the load balancing... I'm sure they implemented it to prevent rmas under warranty.

god503
Again.... someone point me where it says on the box or web page where they stated 500 watts draw.... or a guarantee of an overclock result. I just remember 1800 mhz stock.. ;) since when is a company garbage for not overclocking to ur expectations. As for the load balancing... I'm sure they implemented it to prevent rmas under warranty.

Who's saying EVGA are garbage?
 
I added my information to this thread as there is a difference between the two cards that I've received and considering their spec and production is meant to be identical, it seems a little off to me.
 
I think what annoys people is that, generally speaking EVGA cards come at a premium cost and the EVGA bios works on cards it's not even intended for, yet it doesn't work on the intended product reliably. Hopefully there will be an update do this soon. even if it's just a "we can't fix this via a bios update" or "we're working on one"

krs360

god503
Again.... someone point me where it says on the box or web page where they stated 500 watts draw.... or a guarantee of an overclock result. I just remember 1800 mhz stock.. ;) since when is a company garbage for not overclocking to ur expectations. As for the load balancing... I'm sure they implemented it to prevent rmas under warranty.

Who's saying EVGA are garbage?
 
I added my information to this thread as there is a difference between the two cards that I've received and considering their spec and production is meant to be identical, it seems a little off to me.
 
I think what annoys people is that, generally speaking EVGA cards come at a premium cost and the EVGA bios works on cards it's not even intended for, yet it doesn't work on the intended product reliably. Hopefully there will be an update do this soon. even if it's just a "we can't fix this via a bios update" or "we're working on one"

There are pages on this thread of people calling them garbage. All I know is that I liked calling a US office and getting a live person to discuss an issue instead of waiting 2 days for an email response.