2021/01/04 12:37:03
markus_ke
zig11727
I was  applying for an RMA and the e-mail stated only a 350 Watt draw on the FTW3 cards What BS. I'm going to RMA the card is suppose to draw 450 Watts without the OC bios update. I paid close to $1800 for the card and then I added with the hybrid cooler for another $109 and this is the e-mail I received from EVGA. 
 
Thank you for reaching out to us about your graphics card. Unfortunately, we wouldn't offer an RMA for a card that is functioning normally, as a replacement isn't guaranteed to increase your power limit to 500w for overclocking. We only guarantee a maximum power draw of 350w from the graphics card, not 500W from the beta BIOS. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Regards,
EVGA


Uff :/ ......
We only guarantee a maximum power draw of 350w from the graphics card, not 500W from the beta BIOS.......

Sorry that’s a joke or? 350w then you can buy the cheapest 3090 you find on the market.

I understand that they don‘t allow a rma for the 500w bios. In Europe you have to spent actual >2100€ For the Ftw3. Other cards with a 350w bios 1650€. So why to spent 450€ More for the same power. Of course almost all cards could reach 450w. So for me is your card with only 350 a rma. Hard to hear evga don’t do it.

:/
2021/01/04 13:09:19
arestavo
zig11727
arestavo
Just measure the PCIE slot power draw without an overclock, via GPU-Z, on the stock VBIOSs. If you're over 75W, RMA it for being out of spec.

Yes, Thank you for the inform but I not paying top dollar for EVGA BS My card draws 83 watts on PCIE slot but isn't FTW 3 3090 ultra suppose to also suppose to have a 450 watt max power drawn without OC bios not 350 watts as stated in the e-mail from EVGA.


Doesn't really matter - your card is out of PCIE spec, which is 75W. RMA it for a card that is within spec, or keep RMAing until they manage it (and you can get shipping paid for both ways if you have to do it more than once if it's bad out of the box, if you ask).

I can say that being out of PCIE spec for power draw does impact whether or not your card would be able to draw higher wattage, as it is limited (at least partly) by that. My first card drew 83W constantly in some tests (no overclock), and spiked over 86W - it was limited to about 430W total power draw. The replacement drew 77W with 80W spikes and was limited to 460W (while overclocked). Still technically out of spec, but better and closer to a number that I was comfortable with - if I didn't overclock, it would average 76W.
2021/01/04 13:32:36
zig11727
I just installed the stock hybrid bios 94.02.42.00.44 which is used when upgrading the stock 3090 FTW3 ultra with the Hybrid kit this bios runs in spec and better than OC 500 Watt hybrid bios I just have high power draw on PCIE slot 80 watts and spikes to 83.  I just going to wait for the official 500 watt bios to be release but EVGA stated  a 350 Watt power drawn on the card so the card is really not worth the extra $300 dollars. The FE edition is 400 watts max.
2021/01/04 14:43:23
Tobi123
is there a special games which triggers the high pcie power draw...also on ftw3 3090 ultra and max pcie draw i have ever seen was at 75 watts...but i dont look always at gpuz. Ran some tests now.
thanks for all the information on the cards.
2021/01/04 15:29:10
arestavo
Tobi123
is there a special games which triggers the high pcie power draw...also on ftw3 3090 ultra and max pcie draw i have ever seen was at 75 watts...but i dont look always at gpuz. Ran some tests now.
thanks for all the information on the cards.


Special? No, not really. But the higher the resolution / the more demanding the game (or benchmark - like Time Spy Extreme (4K) vs Time Spy/Port Rotal (1440P)) the better as it will max out the card.
2021/01/04 15:36:43
Tobi123
Ok had tested triple screen full load 7680x1440 everything is ok. Max pcie draw 75.9Watts. So my conclusion after reading the hole thread...some cards can run this bios and some not...thats everything and nobody does know why...
2021/01/04 15:55:28
bavor
Notchy44
Don't believe this dude for one second. Hes a clown in the tech world and people laugh at him. He is a intel fanboy with little education. This bios works perfectly fine on boards made in China, with a solid power supply and testing it in a benchmark load like furmark or port royal. here is mine working fine.



I have a made in China 2012 serial number FTW3 Ultra and with the 500 watt XOC BIOS the card won't hit 450 watts in either PC I tested it in.  That's using an EVGA 1300 watt G2 power supply or a Seasonic 850 watt power supply.  
2021/01/04 17:35:41
Notchy44
bavor
Notchy44
Don't believe this dude for one second. Hes a clown in the tech world and people laugh at him. He is a intel fanboy with little education. This bios works perfectly fine on boards made in China, with a solid power supply and testing it in a benchmark load like furmark or port royal. here is mine working fine.



I have a made in China 2012 serial number FTW3 Ultra and with the 500 watt XOC BIOS the card won't hit 450 watts in either PC I tested it in.  That's using an EVGA 1300 watt G2 power supply or a Seasonic 850 watt power supply.  




What are u using to test this? this bios only works with benchmarks when hitting even close to 500w
2021/01/04 18:17:19
Barrok
Play doom eternal. That game stresses the crap out of my 3090 hybrid. Card hits 470+ frequently but only hits max 450 in port Royal
2021/01/04 21:42:54
LordGurciullo
I been gone a couple weeks.. Any actual news or same ****?

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