2021/01/03 16:12:33
Style68
Thank you. That video did help me to understand.
2021/01/03 16:49:01
Dwayne_Johnson
Is it possible to measure a higher temperature in the area of the capacitors (87°C), while the temperature in GPU-Z shows me a lower temp. (77°C)? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
2021/01/03 16:54:33
Dwayne_Johnson
Anolin
As someone who has kinda-sorta-maybe been following this thread, how does this look using the beta BIOS for my 3090 FTW Ultra Gaming?  This was taken after running the Timespy Stress Test (20 continual loops) and setting Afterburner to 100% Voltage and 119% Power.  No overclocks.  I can't post pictures, so I'll have to type them in from GPU-Z Senor's tab with every sensor set to Max:
 
Board Power Draw:  468.8W
PCIe Slot Power:  81.2W
PCIe Slot Voltage:  12.0V
8-Pin #1 Power:  118.0W
8-Pin #1 Voltage:  12.1V
8-Pin #2 Power:  134.3W
8-Pin #2 Voltage:  12.1V
8-Pin #3 Power:  135.3W
8-Pin #3 Voltage:  12.1V
Power Consumption (%):  109.7 TDP 
 
I'm using a Corsair AX1600i  PSU with 3 separate PCIE cables (Corsair's - not any aftermarket).

And the measurement with iCue?
I dont believe the measurement with GPU-Z
2021/01/03 17:08:12
Dwayne_Johnson
Did anyone tried Liquid Metal instead of paste?
“Frame Chasers“ could reach 30MHz more GPU-Clock
2021/01/03 17:13:26
43688D2CAFD3446
Dwayne_Johnson
Anolin
As someone who has kinda-sorta-maybe been following this thread, how does this look using the beta BIOS for my 3090 FTW Ultra Gaming?  This was taken after running the Timespy Stress Test (20 continual loops) and setting Afterburner to 100% Voltage and 119% Power.  No overclocks.  I can't post pictures, so I'll have to type them in from GPU-Z Senor's tab with every sensor set to Max:
 
Board Power Draw:  468.8W
PCIe Slot Power:  81.2W
PCIe Slot Voltage:  12.0V
8-Pin #1 Power:  118.0W
8-Pin #1 Voltage:  12.1V
8-Pin #2 Power:  134.3W
8-Pin #2 Voltage:  12.1V
8-Pin #3 Power:  135.3W
8-Pin #3 Voltage:  12.1V
Power Consumption (%):  109.7 TDP 
 
I'm using a Corsair AX1600i  PSU with 3 separate PCIE cables (Corsair's - not any aftermarket).

And the measurement with iCue?
I dont believe the measurement with GPU-Z




I don't use iCue, so yeah, this was with GPU-Z.
2021/01/03 17:38:27
Dwayne_Johnson
Kylearan
noshoesworld
Hi all,
 
I've been encountering a strange issue lately that mostly occurs when opening power limit, or simply putting my system under a heavy sustained load like 4K Ultra MSFS 2020. It seems as though my 1000W Phanteks Revolt X is experiencing a trip of over-current protection, this is with the October vbios release (I don't know if there has since been an update?) The computer completely powers down and does not self-reboot - however the motherboard lights always seem to stay on and I can usually just press the power button to restart, and if not I flip switch @ psu and I'm good to reboot. I have heard of RTX 3000 cards encountering these issues with power supplies when there is a certain spike in draw, but 1000W Platinum should certainly be enough no? I have considered that this power supply is built to support two systems, but have to imagine that it's default operating mode is to provide power to whatever is primarily pulling from it. If anyone has feedback I would greatly appreciate it, the card appears to operate wonderfully so I really suspect the issue is the power supply. I have a 1200W incoming to test this theory.
 
Thanks,
 
-nsw




No, you will need to replace the power supply.
 
This has nothing to do with the PSU's total capacity--you are not exceeding 1000W--it has to do with the PSU's overcurrent protection system, which is 'tripping' due to a sudden high "spike" in amps load.  This spike makes the PSU think that a surge has occurred and it shuts off to protect the system.  I do not know if this is a Seasonic rebrand, but some Seasonic platforms from the past that used the OCP regulation in the old "X-series" platform, was also used in the early Prime and Focus models, and on OEM's that use Seasonic as their base supplier.  This was not limited to only Seasonic base units (Note: Corsair does NOT make their own PSU's--they add their own hardware to it, but they use Greatwall, FSP, Superflower, Seasonic, etc), but I am not sure if anyone has an exhaustive list of PSU manufacturers and OEM's with units that will trip OCP with Ampere video cards.
 
Seasonic themselves are allowing RMA's of PSU's under warranty and exchanging them for updated models with more lenient OCP circuitry (I am not sure if they will allow RMA's on units not under warranty, but I saw someone with a Focus Plus Gold (tripping OCP, this is the old model) get an RMA exchange from Seasonic with a Focus GX-850 (no trip, working perfectly, updated OneSeasonic odel), for example.
 
You would have to contact Phanteks about this and see if they will allow a similar RMA or cross-shipment option so you aren't without a power supply, but don't hold your breath, especially if your unit is out of warranty!


My 1000W Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium (SSR-1000TR) shutdown (hard) my PC with huge load (e.g. TimeSpy + XC3-BIOS). I tested the Corsair AX1600i without any shutdowns 
 
When i start an RMA, is it possible to get a new power supply without this OCP-problem?
 
btw:
The „80 PLUS-Certification“ is money-making bullsh_t!!!
https://youtu.be/39UpTtbCH1I
 
 
2021/01/03 18:16:27
Dwayne_Johnson
slovak_killer
go go go : http://overclockingpin.com/3998/NDA_%20xoc_tools_3998.zip (link was posted on another forum, copying it here)


My power-consumption (the whole PC with 3950X) is 760W in TimeSpy
How many watts do the FTW3 Ultra consume with the KPE-BIOS (approximately in percent)?
Can ist be the same consumption, as a KPE-Card or less?
2021/01/03 18:38:26
Notchy44
markus_ke
Style68
Hi Guys,
This post peaked my interest so I decided to post a (hopefully not dumb) question.
Is the 500w XOC Beta BIOS not working for everyone? I have an RTX 3090 FTW3 and an RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra and I applied the beta firmware to both cards. In AB I can get an average 2100MHz (+145) on some games with the highest spike of around 450W for the FTW3 and for the FTW3 Ultra I average 2055MHz (+115) and spikes around 440W. I have voltage and power limits maxed on both and any offset higher than above will crash some games. Since AB shows that I never reach close to 500w usage should I be concerned that I am not getting the full potential of these cards? Sorry if this was a stupid question. By the way it is upsetting that my FTW3 performs better that my Ultra, but I understand the silicon will never be the same.


Absolut same on my side and for almost everyone. It could! be the pcie Max 75w. Hart to explain but look at this.

https://youtu.be/i8BAb3KzX5w

I don‘t like him so much but yeah he has the same problem. Sound like an issue with pcb itself.

For me is this no solution because of warranty!
Also flashing the xc3 oder kingpin bios is out of warranty. So I will stay at 450 :/ and hope for am Bios Update. For me it would be Okay to have an oc Bios with more then 75watt on pci3 because I have a very good board.



 
Don't believe this dude for one second. Hes a clown in the tech world and people laugh at him. He is a intel fanboy with little education. This bios works perfectly fine on boards made in China, with a solid power supply and testing it in a benchmark load like furmark or port royal. here is mine working fine.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/735743 On air soon to be cooled with the Hybrid water cooled EVGA. Should be able to hit 15500 ez with that thing
2021/01/03 23:05:31
ckelas
Notchy44
markus_ke
Style68
Hi Guys,
This post peaked my interest so I decided to post a (hopefully not dumb) question.
Is the 500w XOC Beta BIOS not working for everyone? I have an RTX 3090 FTW3 and an RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra and I applied the beta firmware to both cards. In AB I can get an average 2100MHz (+145) on some games with the highest spike of around 450W for the FTW3 and for the FTW3 Ultra I average 2055MHz (+115) and spikes around 440W. I have voltage and power limits maxed on both and any offset higher than above will crash some games. Since AB shows that I never reach close to 500w usage should I be concerned that I am not getting the full potential of these cards? Sorry if this was a stupid question. By the way it is upsetting that my FTW3 performs better that my Ultra, but I understand the silicon will never be the same.


Absolut same on my side and for almost everyone. It could! be the pcie Max 75w. Hart to explain but look at this.

https://youtu.be/i8BAb3KzX5w

I don‘t like him so much but yeah he has the same problem. Sound like an issue with pcb itself.

For me is this no solution because of warranty!
Also flashing the xc3 oder kingpin bios is out of warranty. So I will stay at 450 :/ and hope for am Bios Update. For me it would be Okay to have an oc Bios with more then 75watt on pci3 because I have a very good board.



 
Don't believe this dude for one second. Hes a clown in the tech world and people laugh at him. He is a intel fanboy with little education. This bios works perfectly fine on boards made in China, with a solid power supply and testing it in a benchmark load like furmark or port royal. here is mine working fine.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M8A9YPXHLM
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/735743 On air soon to be cooled with the Hybrid water cooled EVGA. Should be able to hit 15500 ez with that thing




Your numbers are SUPERB!!!
How do I get this performance on a Taiwan-made card?
With BIOS 2 (OC) I barely hit 410 Watts on my FTW3 Ultra :S
How do I fix this?
2021/01/03 23:10:35
markus_ke
Thx for your Video @Notchy44
 
I don't like him also.
i have Taiwan and a dark power pro 12 1500w Titanium.
So PSU is for sure not the problem. No Daisy Chain!
 
Sorry I bought this card for a legal 500w bios.
Of course i tested it in furmark. every time AVG 450w and peaks 460w.
 
So what we should all do? RMA the card :D
So the only thing is to hope it comes a new one in future.
 
Markus
 

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