2020/12/26 15:27:17
andressergio
changboy
When i got my ftw3 ultra i put the xoc bios and never really tried my card with port royal with original bios.
My port royal score with xoc bios is : 14 257
My port royal score with original bios : 14 264 lol
 
My card still on air cooling and i never success to flash my card with other bios and always have error message : cant read the file or something like that hehehe, i dont know why but like i said i have a LSI sata card in port pcie 3 and i never try to remove it and try flashing my bios.
So its seam the xoc bios dosent really increase my performance at all hahaha.




On Air you will get those variations of course, but XOC BIOS is the best for Benching without crapping the card with other BIOS. Of course fans at maximum, if possible Air Conditioning on the Room and Cool the Backplate with a Fan paralell to it NOT pointing to it like I see many do, air needs to be removed not pushed towards it, not even pull is effective.
 
Cheers, Sergio!
 
2020/12/26 15:32:38
arestavo
andressergio
crisgt19
 
I flashed the XC3 bios following the directions onto my card and now the power limiter is capped at 104%. Is that correct?




No...should be 105%
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PX1 and AB read it differently because it's actually 104.6% according to GPU-Z. Apparently PX1 rounds up, and AB rounds down.
2020/12/26 16:10:31
changboy
 What is the interest for everyone about you update ur bios with the xc3 bios but never show is performance on port royal benchmark. This bring a big 0 of information.
 
 If you change ur bios with success post the performance of it or dont talk about it coz its useless for all people.
 
Yup coz i saw just one guy who post is performance and all others dont talk about anything and a bit coz this this thread have so many page with just a bit of real info.
2020/12/26 16:18:18
arestavo
changboy
 What is the interest for everyone about you update ur bios with the xc3 bios but never show is performance on port royal benchmark. This bring a big 0 of information.
 
 If you change ur bios with success post the performance of it or dont talk about it coz its useless for all people.
 
Yup coz i saw just one guy who post is performance and all others dont talk about anything and a bit coz this this thread have so many page with just a bit of real info.


Many people have, and have posted before and after results. Granted, there's a lot of posts to wade through - but they are there for those who want to know and have the patience to look.
 
Here are mine, again:
On air, XOC VBIOS: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/541625
On air, XC3 VBIOS: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/541974 
With a Hybrid cooler and XC3 VBIOS: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/645547 
2020/12/26 16:39:46
changboy
 So ur hybrid cooler bring nothing in term of performance on ur set-up ?
2020/12/26 17:36:06
andressergio
Just a quote about XC3 BIOS for Gaming...
 
I tried "Homefront The Revolution" Game, with ALL Settings at Very High and 1.25x Scale, 3440x1440 and it does look awesome, it's great to see how this beast of GPU moves games that were very difficult to run maxed before with other GPU's. I also tested "Quantum Break" and impressive how smooth it runs.
 
But back again to "Homefront The Revolution"
 
My room temp today is 27C no AC, Summer here and GPU is at 98% LOAD all the time, Temps 71C with ALL fans at 88%+ LOL, this game consumes more than Cyberpunk 2077 and Metro Exodus, the Clocks go down to 1925 to 1985....I cheched ALL ICX Sensors while gaming and they were ALL on 69C+, GPU at 71C and some PWR at 73C, that's a big reason for the jumps in clocks. ONLY if i put the Scale to Normal 1x then it goes back to 2055 to 2085 and GPU Load is 67% aprox. It's such a shame that this happens really, and this is BIOS XC3 first time I see this with this BIOS.
 
Hope that the Hybrid Cooler improves this, it will take time to arrive to my country but I will continue reporting all I can on Air for now. 

Cheers to All, Sergio!
2020/12/26 17:45:46
arestavo
changboy
 So ur hybrid cooler bring nothing in term of performance on ur set-up ?


Gaming with the XC3 VBIOS on air - up to 78C and ~2040MHz. Gaming with the XC3 VBIOS with a hybrid cooler - 64C max and 2100Mhz locked (Cyberpunk 2077, 4K ultra RT preset).
2020/12/26 17:58:03
lilflip21
Has anyone tried the KFA2 390W Bios? I have used the XC3 Bios as it’s been best so far but that tops out at 366w (Stock) so far KFA2 is highest 2 pin bios I have seen at 390w (Stock) wonder if that helps out the FTW3 more than XC3 bios?



Sorry if someone posted on this I’m on mobile and can’t figure out how to search the thread only the whole site.. How do we search just this thread? Thanks!
2020/12/26 18:01:32
changboy
arestavo
changboy
 So ur hybrid cooler bring nothing in term of performance on ur set-up ?


Gaming with the XC3 VBIOS on air - up to 78C and ~2040MHz. Gaming with the XC3 VBIOS with a hybrid cooler - 64C max and 2100Mhz locked (Cyberpunk 2077, 4K ultra RT preset).




Ya a bit better then but 64c with this hybrid cooler not a bit on the high side ? I thinking you can max at around 58c. It may depend where you put ur rad in ur set up. Me if i got that hybrid kit, before do my final installation of my rad i tried put just the rad in ice water inside a plastic bac and try to push for max score :).
 And sorry if i have not seen much bench of performance in previous page and it can happen i have miss to read some page. 
 
 I'am not sure but with the original oc bios i think my fps a bit better in game versus the xoc bios but it can happen after play sometime the temp go higher on air with the xoc then drop more then the original bios.
 So all in all even with better bios we will limited by temp after some minutes in game, ya its good for 1 bench and seam better but at the end for gaming its not.
 For this i wait to have my waterblock to do real test coz just on air its a bit of waste of time. 
  
2020/12/26 18:07:27
arestavo
changboy
arestavo
changboy
 So ur hybrid cooler bring nothing in term of performance on ur set-up ?


Gaming with the XC3 VBIOS on air - up to 78C and ~2040MHz. Gaming with the XC3 VBIOS with a hybrid cooler - 64C max and 2100Mhz locked (Cyberpunk 2077, 4K ultra RT preset).




Ya a bit better then but 64c with this hybrid cooler not a bit on the high side ? I thinking you can max at around 58c. It may depend where you put ur rad in ur set up. Me if i got that hybrid kit, before do my final installation of my rad i tried put just the rad in ice water inside a plastic bac and try to push for max score :).
 And sorry if i have not seen much bench of performance in previous page and it can happen i have miss to read some page. 
 
 I'am not sure but with the original oc bios i think my fps a bit better in game versus the xoc bios but it can happen after play sometime the temp go higher on air with the xoc then drop more then the original bios.
 So all in all even with better bios we will limited by temp after some minutes in game, ya its good for 1 bench and seam better but at the end for gaming its not.
 For this i wait to have my waterblock to do real test coz just on air its a bit of waste of time. 
  


With the stock (or XOC VBIOS, since it doesn't draw more watts) - I'm sure it will be a lot cooler. But the XC3 VBIOS allows my card to pull 500W+ instead of topping out at 400 to 440W. And yes, my radiator setup is not ideal because I have a 360 radiator for the CPU up top.
 
The FPS difference, at least at 4K, between the stock or XC3 VBIOS isn't massive. Nor is the FPS difference between a 400W 3090 massively greater than a 500W 3090. There is a reason why Nvidia didn't release a FE with a 500W VBIOS - diminishing returns. This is also why so many decide to undervolt their cards for 90% performance and massively reduced power draw. Power isn't a concern for me with my 1600W titanium PSU and cheap, hydroelectric power.
 
Is it a waste of time? Maybe for you, maybe for some others. For me, it allowed me to change from Auto DLSS in Cyberpunk 2077 to Balanced and got rid of the weird swirlies that happened at crosswalks / other areas with straight lines in a row. It's worth it to me - if not for you, then good on you. Thanks for sharing and ciao. 

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