Kylearan
 
Are you still getting that 6500C alert on the latest drivers?

Yes, unfortunately.

andressergio
**Question about Hybrid Kit, PX1 and BIOS**

So I wonder...now that I have the RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid kit on the way I will have to use New PX1 versions and FTW3 BIOS no more XC3 unless there's other way to connect the pump. Those who installed it how you did it?

Thank You!

There really isn't any need to flash a hybrid VBIOS - if there were, you bet EVGA would be making that statement either in the literature or via email to their purchasers (cover their butts kinda thing). The pump is designed to run at 100% all the time, no matter what you'd want to set it at.
 
With that said, I used the XC3 VBIOS without issue with my hybrid kit, but I did offload the two radiator fans to a fan controller and have them controlled still by GPU temperature (NZXT fan controller, NZXT CAM software). This keeps the fans from winding down and then spinning back up which would be annoying.
 
Later I did flash the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid VBIOS to my card and installed the latest PX1 firmware and updated the MCU (the MCU is what controls the pump/fans - which would be the only pertinent thing about this particular process). I then re-flashed the XC3 VBIOS to get back the performance that my card always loses on any other VBIOS due to absurd levels of power throttling even as low as 380W, and stopped using PX1 as it is junk on top of the fact that it would want to flash the XC3 MCU to my card (and possibly cause a bad time).
 
The temperature results were the same pre and post MCU update.

arestavo
There really isn't any need to flash a hybrid VBIOS - if there were, you bet EVGA would be making that statement either in the literature or via email to their purchasers (cover their butts kinda thing). The pump is designed to run at 100% all the time, no matter what you'd want to set it at.
 
With that said, I used the XC3 VBIOS without issue with my hybrid kit, but I did offload the two radiator fans to a fan controller and have them controlled still by GPU temperature (NZXT fan controller, NZXT CAM software). This keeps the fans from winding down and then spinning back up which would be annoying.
 
Later I did flash the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid VBIOS to my card and installed the latest PX1 firmware and updated the MCU (the MCU is what controls the pump/fans - which would be the only pertinent thing about this particular process). I then re-flashed the XC3 VBIOS to get back the performance that my card always loses on any other VBIOS due to absurd levels of power throttling even as low as 380W, and stopped using PX1 as it is junk on top of the fact that it would want to flash the XC3 MCU to my card (and possibly cause a bad time).
 
The temperature results were the same pre and post MCU update.

Is there a step by step procedure to try out the XC3 BIOS?  I'd like to give it a try & see how it performs on my card since I am having the issue of not being able to get anywhere near the 500W Power Limit in basically anything not called TimeSpy.
Do I just use the flasher that eVGA has up, or do I need to manually do it with NVFlash?

Dabadger84
Is there a step by step procedure to try out the XC3 BIOS?  I'd like to give it a try & see how it performs on my card since I am having the issue of not being able to get anywhere near the 500W Power Limit in basically anything not called TimeSpy.
Do I just use the flasher that eVGA has up, or do I need to manually do it with NVFlash?

Manually flash

Nvflash64 -6 name.rom

Reboot. Reboot again after the driver gets reloaded. You'll need to dial in a new benchmark offset and a new gaming offset for the GPU, very likely.

Don't let PX1 update your MCU firmware. Or just use AB.

Thank you very much for your reply!

arestavo

andressergio
**Question about Hybrid Kit, PX1 and BIOS**

So I wonder...now that I have the RTX 3090 FTW3 Hybrid kit on the way I will have to use New PX1 versions and FTW3 BIOS no more XC3 unless there's other way to connect the pump. Those who installed it how you did it?

Thank You!

There really isn't any need to flash a hybrid VBIOS - if there were, you bet EVGA would be making that statement either in the literature or via email to their purchasers (cover their butts kinda thing). The pump is designed to run at 100% all the time, no matter what you'd want to set it at.
 
With that said, I used the XC3 VBIOS without issue with my hybrid kit, but I did offload the two radiator fans to a fan controller and have them controlled still by GPU temperature (NZXT fan controller, NZXT CAM software). This keeps the fans from winding down and then spinning back up which would be annoying.
 
Later I did flash the 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid VBIOS to my card and installed the latest PX1 firmware and updated the MCU (the MCU is what controls the pump/fans - which would be the only pertinent thing about this particular process). I then re-flashed the XC3 VBIOS to get back the performance that my card always loses on any other VBIOS due to absurd levels of power throttling even as low as 380W, and stopped using PX1 as it is junk on top of the fact that it would want to flash the XC3 MCU to my card (and possibly cause a bad time).
 
The temperature results were the same pre and post MCU update.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to explain all bro!

Hi all,
 
I've been encountering a strange issue lately that mostly occurs when opening power limit, or simply putting my system under a heavy sustained load like 4K Ultra MSFS 2020. It seems as though my 1000W Phanteks Revolt X is experiencing a trip of over-current protection, this is with the October vbios release (I don't know if there has since been an update?) The computer completely powers down and does not self-reboot - however the motherboard lights always seem to stay on and I can usually just press the power button to restart, and if not I flip switch @ psu and I'm good to reboot. I have heard of RTX 3000 cards encountering these issues with power supplies when there is a certain spike in draw, but 1000W Platinum should certainly be enough no? I have considered that this power supply is built to support two systems, but have to imagine that it's default operating mode is to provide power to whatever is primarily pulling from it. If anyone has feedback I would greatly appreciate it, the card appears to operate wonderfully so I really suspect the issue is the power supply. I have a 1200W incoming to test this theory.
 
Thanks,
 
-nsw

noshoesworld
Hi all,
 
I've been encountering a strange issue lately that mostly occurs when opening power limit, or simply putting my system under a heavy sustained load like 4K Ultra MSFS 2020. It seems as though my 1000W Phanteks Revolt X is experiencing a trip of over-current protection, this is with the October vbios release (I don't know if there has since been an update?) The computer completely powers down and does not self-reboot - however the motherboard lights always seem to stay on and I can usually just press the power button to restart, and if not I flip switch @ psu and I'm good to reboot. I have heard of RTX 3000 cards encountering these issues with power supplies when there is a certain spike in draw, but 1000W Platinum should certainly be enough no? I have considered that this power supply is built to support two systems, but have to imagine that it's default operating mode is to provide power to whatever is primarily pulling from it. If anyone has feedback I would greatly appreciate it, the card appears to operate wonderfully so I really suspect the issue is the power supply. I have a 1200W incoming to test this theory.
 
Thanks,
 
-nsw

Depends on the age of the PSU. The caps will likely degrade with time and not be able to handle those spikes, and the PC shuts off/reboots. If it's a new PSU, and if a new one fixes the problem, that then points to a PSU that wasn't well designed.
 
However, I've had reboots - not full shutdowns - when overclocking too high (GPU core and VRAM), and from drivers (460.97 hotfix ones cause the PC to reboot under load occasionally - 460.79 no such issue). This was on a 1600W Titanium PSU for reference.

arestavo

noshoesworld
Hi all,
 
I've been encountering a strange issue lately that mostly occurs when opening power limit, or simply putting my system under a heavy sustained load like 4K Ultra MSFS 2020. It seems as though my 1000W Phanteks Revolt X is experiencing a trip of over-current protection, this is with the October vbios release (I don't know if there has since been an update?) The computer completely powers down and does not self-reboot - however the motherboard lights always seem to stay on and I can usually just press the power button to restart, and if not I flip switch @ psu and I'm good to reboot. I have heard of RTX 3000 cards encountering these issues with power supplies when there is a certain spike in draw, but 1000W Platinum should certainly be enough no? I have considered that this power supply is built to support two systems, but have to imagine that it's default operating mode is to provide power to whatever is primarily pulling from it. If anyone has feedback I would greatly appreciate it, the card appears to operate wonderfully so I really suspect the issue is the power supply. I have a 1200W incoming to test this theory.
 
Thanks,
 
-nsw

Depends on the age of the PSU. The caps will likely degrade with time and not be able to handle those spikes, and the PC shuts off/reboots. If it's a new PSU, and if a new one fixes the problem, that then points to a PSU that wasn't well designed.
 
However, I've had reboots - not full shutdowns - when overclocking too high (GPU core and VRAM), and from drivers (460.97 hotfix ones cause the PC to reboot under load occasionally - 460.79 no such issue). This was on a 1600W Titanium PSU for reference.

Under these circumstances, I am not positive that it's a driver issue as I have tried a couple rollbacks with no luck. The PSU is brand new and I believe that Phanteks PSU's are basically reskinned Seasonic products... however I did just see that there is an update to Precision X1 that fixes a lost MCU - don't know if the sensor was related to power but could be significant?

noshoesworld
Hi all,
 
I've been encountering a strange issue lately that mostly occurs when opening power limit, or simply putting my system under a heavy sustained load like 4K Ultra MSFS 2020. It seems as though my 1000W Phanteks Revolt X is experiencing a trip of over-current protection, this is with the October vbios release (I don't know if there has since been an update?) The computer completely powers down and does not self-reboot - however the motherboard lights always seem to stay on and I can usually just press the power button to restart, and if not I flip switch @ psu and I'm good to reboot. I have heard of RTX 3000 cards encountering these issues with power supplies when there is a certain spike in draw, but 1000W Platinum should certainly be enough no? I have considered that this power supply is built to support two systems, but have to imagine that it's default operating mode is to provide power to whatever is primarily pulling from it. If anyone has feedback I would greatly appreciate it, the card appears to operate wonderfully so I really suspect the issue is the power supply. I have a 1200W incoming to test this theory.
 
Thanks,
 
-nsw

No, you will need to replace the power supply.
 
This has nothing to do with the PSU's total capacity--you are not exceeding 1000W--it has to do with the PSU's overcurrent protection system, which is 'tripping' due to a sudden high "spike" in amps load.  This spike makes the PSU think that a surge has occurred and it shuts off to protect the system.  I do not know if this is a Seasonic rebrand, but some Seasonic platforms from the past that used the OCP regulation in the old "X-series" platform, was also used in the early Prime and Focus models, and on OEM's that use Seasonic as their base supplier.  This was not limited to only Seasonic base units (Note: Corsair does NOT make their own PSU's--they add their own hardware to it, but they use Greatwall, FSP, Superflower, Seasonic, etc), but I am not sure if anyone has an exhaustive list of PSU manufacturers and OEM's with units that will trip OCP with Ampere video cards.
 
Seasonic themselves are allowing RMA's of PSU's under warranty and exchanging them for updated models with more lenient OCP circuitry (I am not sure if they will allow RMA's on units not under warranty, but I saw someone with a Focus Plus Gold (tripping OCP, this is the old model) get an RMA exchange from Seasonic with a Focus GX-850 (no trip, working perfectly, updated OneSeasonic odel), for example.
 
You would have to contact Phanteks about this and see if they will allow a similar RMA or cross-shipment option so you aren't without a power supply, but don't hold your breath, especially if your unit is out of warranty!