2020/12/18 04:06:51
superkyle1721
There are several. One popular one nowadays is the lian li 011XL
2020/12/18 05:29:33
Zgapzy
marcus_andrews
Is EVGA still working on this BIOS / aware of the issues people are facing in this thread?


I have had a back and forth with one of the EVGA admins and yes they are very well aware of the problem. 
2020/12/18 05:39:32
managerman
I'm sure EVGA is "aware" of the problem....the real question is whether or not their "awareness" will lead to a solution....logically...the sheer amount of time that has passed since the XOC bios was introduced, does not bode well for a solution that will "fix" the problems....While I hope I am wrong, I am not confident that we will see a new XOC bios anytime soon....or for that matter.....ever. 
 
-M
 
 
Zgapzy
marcus_andrews
Is EVGA still working on this BIOS / aware of the issues people are facing in this thread?


I have had a back and forth with one of the EVGA admins and yes they are very well aware of the problem. 




2020/12/18 06:13:02
Dabadger84
They're working on it, be patient folks.
 
I rearranged things in preparation for a possible upgrade to a Kingpin (still crazy I'm even considering that):
 

2020/12/18 08:06:24
vgerik1234
My motherboard decided to downgrade the slot to x4 after installing my kit. Looks like after I gave it a good ole fashion blowout, it decided to run at x16 again. Scores are back to normal.


Edit: New OC high of +900/+150 and I FINALLY broke the 14000 barrier!!! WOOOOOO!
Edit2: +1100/+150 - 14278. Not bad considering my previous high was +800/150 @ 13919
Edit3: Scores are dropping due to memory temps are climbing. Expected since I have been hammering it. On the plus side GPUZ in Time Spy reported 107% which is about 113+% in PX1. 124W on all 3 PCIE, which has never been seen before for me using the Hybrid XOC Bios. So I am gonna say this is a huge win!
2020/12/18 08:30:07
andressergio
Dabadger84
They're working on it, be patient folks.
 
I rearranged things in preparation for a possible upgrade to a Kingpin (still crazy I'm even considering that):
 



How do you know that? or just guessing?
2020/12/18 08:40:39
Dabadger84
andressergio
How do you know that? or just guessing?



More than one person said they have contacted support/admins that actually work for eVGA & got responses on the lines of it is being worked on and they are fully aware of the issues including the 450W limit being seemingly still there despite the BIOS "allowing" "500W" power limit, among other issues.
I myself cannot get the card to draw much past 450W on Port Royal no matter what I do to it.  Stock?  450W.  2040MHz OC with a 994mV undervolt? 432W.  +120/+500?  450W.  +210(it doesn't actually clock that high the whole benchmark, but it does show an improvement in score over 195/180/165 etc)/+1100? 457W.
Time Spy Extreme at stock? 489W... it makes no sense to me why this is even happening, and how random it is suggests there is bugs that definitely need fixing.
Maybe the card's BIOS is detecting certain loads as being equivalent to Furmark or something & enabling the same safety features they've done in the past against Furmark killing GPUs, but it's erroneously applying that to actual games/benchmarks.  No way to know for sure unless we are informed what the problem actually is, after it's fixed, by someone that helped fix it on eVGA's side of things.
2020/12/18 08:49:46
vgerik1234
Dabadger84
andressergio
How do you know that? or just guessing?



More than one person said they have contacted support/admins that actually work for eVGA & got responses on the lines of it is being worked on and they are fully aware of the issues including the 450W limit being seemingly still there despite the BIOS "allowing" "500W" power limit, among other issues.
I myself cannot get the card to draw much past 450W on Port Royal no matter what I do to it.  Stock?  450W.  2040MHz OC with a 994mV undervolt? 432W.  +120/+500?  450W.  +210(it doesn't actually clock that high the whole benchmark, but it does show an improvement in score over 195/180/165 etc)/+1100? 457W.
Time Spy Extreme at stock? 489W... it makes no sense to me why this is even happening, and how random it is suggests there is bugs that definitely need fixing.
Maybe the card's BIOS is detecting certain loads as being equivalent to Furmark or something & enabling the same safety features they've done in the past against Furmark killing GPUs, but it's erroneously applying that to actual games/benchmarks.  No way to know for sure unless we are informed what the problem actually is, after it's fixed, by someone that helped fix it on eVGA's side of things.



Yep finally hit the 450 limit after upgrading with a hybrid kit. Using the air cooler I was capping at 410-415. So I can finally say 100% something is up with the BIOS's now that I removed all potential problems out of the way (thermal limit, pcie lane, etc). 
2020/12/18 09:10:36
Dabadger84
Another day another 6500+C blip on the temp readouts.  Yeeeet.
 

 
Yeeeeeeeeee boi.  This was just after finishing a Folding at home work unit so it was still in the process of cooling down.

Has anyone else experienced this on their 3090?  It happens on a random iCX measurement, hasn't happened on the same one too often, only happened about 8 times since I got the card on Monday.  My concern is that erroneous readout has also translated to the PerfCap reason in GPUz showing "THRM" which means Thermal of course... which could effect performance if it were to happen in a benchmark (which it has, happens at the end of Port Royal sometimes, but not consistently) and in the middle of Time Spy Extreme, again only sometimes - I haven't noticed it causing hard throttling at all as it's only a split-second thing then it goes back to the actual temp. 
Same issue was reported on a FTW3 Ultra that GamersNexus reviewed, during their checking of the iCX sensors vs their own thermo-couple checking of temps.
2020/12/18 10:07:43
QueueCumber
Dabadger84
Another day another 6500+C blip on the temp readouts.  Yeeeet.
 

 
Yeeeeeeeeee boi.  This was just after finishing a Folding at home work unit so it was still in the process of cooling down.

Has anyone else experienced this on their 3090?  It happens on a random iCX measurement, hasn't happened on the same one too often, only happened about 8 times since I got the card on Monday.  My concern is that erroneous readout has also translated to the PerfCap reason in GPUz showing "THRM" which means Thermal of course... which could effect performance if it were to happen in a benchmark (which it has, happens at the end of Port Royal sometimes, but not consistently) and in the middle of Time Spy Extreme, again only sometimes - I haven't noticed it causing hard throttling at all as it's only a split-second thing then it goes back to the actual temp. 
Same issue was reported on a FTW3 Ultra that GamersNexus reviewed, during their checking of the iCX sensors vs their own thermo-couple checking of temps.




Yep, I RMAed my KPE with that issue. It had other issues as well, like odd behavior during benchmarks (very erratic compared to the other 6x 3090s I have now tried), e.g. during a few railing scenes in PR, all of the other cards run smooth with maybe the 1-digit changing along the entire railing, whereas the KPE I had was jumping a tens digit. It was very odd (If it resulted in better scores that would be one thing, but the KPE was running no better than my 3090 FTW3 Ultra despite the odd behavior--Any other card with the peaks I was having on the KPE would have been scoring much much higher...). Then also, I was getting monitor disconnects every so often, albeit rare. To me it all added up to a likely voltage issue somewhere (or maybe a faulty firmware flash as it tried to flash mine a few times and then stopped when I first installed it and then Precision X1). I was afraid to request and try the XOC since the card appeared to have stability issues already. 

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