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Hi guys.
I am new to the forum. 
I came here after watching some videos on youtube about 3090 FTW3 power draw. 
Currently running on a 1080ti FTW3 and I am expecting my 3090 FTW3 tomorrow. 
The rest of the machine is i9 10900K, maximus XII formula, 32gb corsair @ 3600MHz, and an HX1200i corsair psu. 
I understand that 3090ti is drawing too much power from the PCIE pins for most of the owners. 
So, please forgive my ignorance, but is this harmful for the motherboard?
Is there a way to mend this?
I am not crazy about overclocking. 
I just want to know whether my soon-to-be-installed 3090 FTW3 is safe for my system. 
What tools can I use to diagnose the issue (if it's there for my GPU)?

Is there a way for the end user to fix out of PCIE spec slot power draw (75W) when the card is stock? No not really - an RMA is the only true fix. You can try undervolting and underclocking the card to bring it within spec, and that may work - but you aren't getting what you paid for.
 
Is it harmful? Potentially. Another user had their motherboard die along with a 2080 Ti Black that drew more than 80W from the PCIE slot. My first 3090 FTW3 Ultra would draw up to 82W average completely stock with spikes over 86W. I decided that that was too high for me to accept from a card when it was stock, so I RMAd and got one that draws around 76-77W average when stock.
 
You can use to find out the PCIE slot power draw.

Thank you bro for the explanation. 

I flashed the stock 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid OC VBIOS, then used the XOC Hybrid VBIOS updater from the first page here. Rebooted, installed the latest drivers (460.79) and ran Valley at 4K with the power slider maxed and no overclock. It shows power limited around 400W and I've been using it as a quick and dirty test to see if the XOC VBIOS is limited. Guess what? It still is.
 

I’m sorry for the lack of communication about the issue. With the 30 series launch we’ve been slammed with calls and emails in CS, and unfortunately when that happens one of the first things to slip is watching the forums. Apparently the PM team has been aware and watching the thread, but they never felt the need to say anything there. I’m still trying to get them to post something, but they’re busy as well and not responding as quickly to me as usual. I’m hoping I can get one of them to post something, or to let me to so we can help clear up the situation for everyone.

 
Just got another email from an EVGA rep, Naturally with a new card there is going to be issues. The fact they are well aware of it is good news and i for one am happy to wait for the finished product. Even at 450w these cards are performing in the top 1% so we can't really be too angry. 

I for one would just like some acknowledgment that their is a problem, and that their will be a solution. If not, I’d prefer to return this and buy the msi card or a STRIXX... At least the bios works on them.

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I for one would just like some acknowledgment that their is a problem, and that their will be a solution. If not, I’d prefer to return this and buy the msi card or a STRIXX... At least the bios works on them.

In case of returning your card, where do you return it, the seller or EVGA directly??

The shop I bought it from. I really like the card. But I want to put it on water. Seems silly to do it to a card limited to 450w.

This thread is so long now.
 
If I read this correctly, the "special 500w" overclocking bios hasn't been changed since Jacob released it, correct? And it seems as though people are have a hard (impossible) time reaching this max watt limit?
 
What do we consider a good "gpu score" for time spy/extreme for this card?
 
 
I look at scores online but it's just the leaderboard of youtubers, so I'm wondering where I sit:
extreme gpu score 9,960.
regular time spy gpu score 19,395...
 
Cpu is a 9900k atm so I don't think my composite scores are representative of the gpu as much I'm assuming.

Just chiming in here to add my experience: I purchased secondhand, but BNIB, an early-run 3090 FTW3 Ultra with red lips and a serial number beginning with 2014 (manufactured in Taiwan). It exhibited many of the same characteristics discussed in this thread and was perhaps one of the worst samples in comparison to those I've seen here - it would struggle to pull over 390W even on the stock OC BIOS with the power limit at 107%, and capped out at maybe 80W on the third 8-pin. The XOC BIOS only made it worse.
 
I called and spoke to a very accommodating service representative who wasn't familiar with the problem but was happy to hook me up with an RMA after a lengthy and detailed explanation of why power delivery isn't supposed to work like this.
 
Fast forward to today; I received the RMA - black lips this time, but still serialed 2014 and manufactured in Taiwan. It works perfectly - on the stock OC BIOS with power limit at 107% it sits right around 445W in Heaven with spikes up to ~460W. I honestly don't even have any inclination to flash the XOC BIOS at this point because heat is now my primary concern. 
 
I highly recommend anyone experiencing this problem just RMA their card and roll the dice on getting one that actually performs to spec. This is clearly a hardware problem with the early runs.

firstnomad
Just chiming in here to add my experience: I purchased secondhand, but BNIB, an early-run 3090 FTW3 Ultra with red lips and a serial number beginning with 2014 (manufactured in Taiwan). It exhibited many of the same characteristics discussed in this thread and was perhaps one of the worst samples in comparison to those I've seen here - it would struggle to pull over 390W even on the stock OC BIOS with the power limit at 107%, and capped out at maybe 80W on the third 8-pin. The XOC BIOS only made it worse.
 
I called and spoke to a very accommodating service representative who wasn't familiar with the problem but was happy to hook me up with an RMA after a lengthy and detailed explanation of why power delivery isn't supposed to work like this.
 
Fast forward to today; I received the RMA - black lips this time, but still serialed 2014 and manufactured in Taiwan. It works perfectly - on the stock OC BIOS with power limit at 107% it sits right around 445W in Heaven with spikes up to ~460W. I honestly don't even have any inclination to flash the XOC BIOS at this point because heat is now my primary concern. 
 
I highly recommend anyone experiencing this problem just RMA their card and roll the dice on getting one that actually performs to spec. This is clearly a hardware problem with the early runs.

Thank you for sharing your experience bro. 
 
Can I please ask you to elaborate on your liaising with the representative?
What was it that you had to explain to them, and what did you tell them?

Hey folks - been reading this chat intensely. I am hoping someone can provide advice
 
My setup: EVGA FTW3 Ultra, 8700K at 5.0GHz on Z370 board, 32GB ram, fully watercooled system (except gcard) 
PSU is a 1200W Corsair Platinum and I am using individual cables for the three power connectors
 
My card has been blackscreening when I apply anything above default. Cannot finish 3DMark, RDR2 or Valley benchmarks. Reset needed
Defaults seem to be ok, and when she is running, it's magical. It's the best single card I have owned
I use HWINFO64 to monitor power etc and I see max 425W
I also flashed to the OC BIOS on the first page
 
What is the typical cause? Is the card faulty?
Is it worth flashing the XO3 bios instead? I dont want to push it tbh. Happy just gaming. I'll leave benching to the professionals
 
Huge thanks in advance