2020/12/10 14:01:24
curtisg67
enewt
shoumpavlis
I cannot fault EVGA for their process. It is by far the best process out there IMO. At least you have a chance to get one with EVGA by just being put on the waiting list.


Apologies to those who have been here awhile and read this from me already, but...I continue to believe that the queue system is the worst gpu purchasing system out there...except for all the other systems.  
 
We bemoan our positions in the lines we care about, but we are glad to have the lines...glad they are virtual as opposed to overnight in a cold parking lot in the middle of a pandemic...glad we have a community of like minded folks to share our watch.  We don't have it great right now from a card-in-hand perspective, but we don't have it sooo bad.  We will get through this...and if our past few weeks...er...months are precedent...with a good amount of humor and goodwill along the way.  




This is very well said EnewT! I work for a very large tech company  (25 years ) in various supply chain roles, and every single company is affected by the pandemic.  The strength and weakness companies supply chains reveal themselves when there is an unbalance in supply and demand.  Most modern day supply chain systems that procure products from Asia for world-wide markets use some sort of safety stock / target days of supply to ensure smooth delivery to Tier 1 and 2 distributors.  This obviously impacts on hand inventory level that impacts the companies EPS values reported to Wall street.  So companies including Nvidia, EVGA, and all of the suppliers for the GPU but also all of the lower level materials like the packaging for all of the variants.  Also, with all the of the product line changes that Nvidia is doing in answer to AMD's launch adds delays as new product introductions take time.  Marketing also plays a big role as companies use contra dollars to fund marketing campaigns in which account managers fight for their markets and products.  
 
Prior to the Nvidia and AMD GPU launches, there was the MSFS2020 in August.  I have been trying to buy a  thrustmaster flight hotas or honeycomb alpha yoke every since, and they are still out of stock.  BB, Newegg, WM, etc., also sell these products, and have the notify when back in stock type process, you are not guaranteed a chance to buy based on position in the list of orders, just we have stock this very millisecond! 
 
Thank you EVGA for a least giving us gamers a better chance of getting a card sooner than other retailers without having to spend many hours searching and F5'ing. 
2020/12/10 14:04:46
svnipp
tizz78
jbaysingar
I wasn't originally planning on upgrading to a 30 series, but my 980 SC is finally starting to show its age - getting an occasional random black screen / device disconnect / device reconnect - so I decided it's time to upgrade to a 3080 before the 980 dies on me, since my gaming PC is also my work PC. Unfortunately, that means I didn't get in the queue until 11/29, so reading this thread and realizing how long it might be until I can get a new card has been a bit demoralizing (especially when I saw that I missed a Best Buy restock on Tuesday morning).
 
It's also a bit disheartening to see retailers I used to consider reputable taking advantage of the availability situation. Newegg marks the cards up $10 - $20 over MSRP and, on top of that, requires you to buy a combo when they do get cards in stock, and B&H has the ASUS TUF 3080 OC listed for $50 over MSRP.
 
Right now, my hopes are resting on the 3080 FTW3 Gaming at Best Buy which shows "Coming Soon" rather than "Out of Stock." Micro Center is 40 min. away, so I'm assuming that any stock they might get will already be gone by the time I can get there. I know Newegg announces drops on their twitter feed, but I'm not going to buy parts I don't need just to get my hands on a card, and I refuse to reward predatory retail practices. I just have to hope my 980 holds on until I can get my hands on a 3080.
 
Any tips other than check Best Buy diligently and pray?
 
 




Honestly, you're probably better off in the que. I'd avoid the scalpers at all costs if you don't mind the wait. No point in feeding their greed IMO.




The good news about BB is they do stick to the MSRP.  The bad news is that their checkout process totally sucks.  Once you get a card in your cart, that's actually the easy part.  I've gotten at least 5 different cards into my cart spread across 2 different days.  I was never able to complete the purchase because every single time I would get to the checkout screen to find that the card is "not available within 250 miles".
 
Now, with that said, I'd still LOVE to manage to get a card from BB.  My birthday is this month so any single purchase I make I get 10% off.  That's pretty nice on something like a RTX 3080.  So I'm still doing the F5 hunt on BB and hoping to get lucky.
2020/12/10 14:05:20
enewt
curtisg67
 
This is very well said EnewT! I work for a very large tech company  (25 years ) in various supply chain roles, and every single company is affected by the pandemic.  The strength and weakness companies supply chains reveal themselves when there is an unbalance in supply and demand.  Most modern day supply chain systems that procure products from Asia for world-wide markets use some sort of safety stock / target days of supply to ensure smooth delivery to Tier 1 and 2 distributors.  This obviously impacts on hand inventory level that impacts the companies EPS values reported to Wall street.  So companies including Nvidia, EVGA, and all of the suppliers for the GPU but also all of the lower level materials like the packaging for all of the variants.  Also, with all the of the product line changes that Nvidia is doing in answer to AMD's launch adds delays as new product introductions take time.  Marketing also plays a big role as companies use contra dollars to fund marketing campaigns in which account managers fight for their markets and products.  
 
Prior to the Nvidia and AMD GPU launches, there was the MSFS2020 in August.  I have been trying to buy a  thrustmaster flight hotas or honeycomb alpha yoke every since, and they are still out of stock.  BB, Newegg, WM, etc., also sell these products, and have the notify when back in stock type process, you are not guaranteed a chance to buy based on position in the list of orders, just we have stock this very millisecond! 
 
Thank you EVGA for a least giving us gamers a better chance of getting a card sooner than other retailers without having to spend many hours searching and F5'ing. 



Thanks.  That is great context.  The entire fall has been challenging -- across the board -- from a tech purchasing perspective.  My hunt for a PSU...well it was a doozy...for a PSU.  
 
I hope your flight plan (ha ha) comes together soon.  And, at the risk of repeating myself (why stop now?!?), I think what EVGA did with the creation of the queue was almost like changing out the engines of a plane midflight.  And to be fair to them, they did it without us seeing many if any staples, stitches, band-aids, etc.  In my book, they have done an outstanding job.
2020/12/10 14:06:11
AlphaTJH
Anyone know if the 3888 was offered to people that hit Auto Notify today? Trying to figure out where I stand.
2020/12/10 14:08:44
enewt
AlphaTJH
Anyone know if the 3888 was offered to people that hit Auto Notify today? Trying to figure out where I stand.


Not yet from what I can tell, although I am still going through all the reports...I am back in the 11 am hour from this morning's reports right now....  I will have a fuller picture in tonight's summary table.
2020/12/10 14:11:05
Dabadger84
AlphaTJH
Anyone know if the 3888 was offered to people that hit Auto Notify today? Trying to figure out where I stand.




I don't recall anyone reporting (yet) that a 3888-KR that was signed up for this morning and they already got the email for it - I do know some 3988s have gone out though, the queue time is already right up next to when my queue time is (9:15).
 
If you got in pretty early, I'd say at the very least, you're close.
2020/12/10 14:11:47
actek23
AlphaTJH
Anyone know if the 3888 was offered to people that hit Auto Notify today? Trying to figure out where I stand.




What time did you succesfully Auto notify this morning?
 
Earliest we have seen is 9:08:XX...
 
i'm 9:09:35
2020/12/10 14:14:41
lumb00
I got the 3888 at 9:08:15 and I'm so hoping that it comes soon, been looking for like 2 months.  
The queue process for someone's first time is a bit confusing at first but I'm starting to understand it, and from what I gather a lot of people waited months for their 3080s before us this morning...
2020/12/10 14:15:28
viper809
Dabadger84
How do eVGA Bucks work exactly?  I just looked and apparently some kind folk have used my code & didn't even tell me they did, I have 124 pending O_o
 
Is that like, $124 I can spend on the site once it's credited?  If so that's awesome & I wish I knew who did it so I could thank them - apparently it as last month, because it says 0 earned this month - that would be neat if they get credited before my 3090 purchase email comes through, every little bit will help for that monster.
 
So you can't use someone else's associates code for a purchase if you're in the program? That seems kinda silly not allowing people to spread the love :-P I was gonna pick someone's randomly from the thread to get my "reward" when I purchase my 3090. 
 

 
Same, i just found that page just now, it says i have 97 bucks pending, i wonder if thats more then 1 person who used my code. I didnt think anyone used my code. Its really nice to see at least one person used it. And like you hopefully i would be able to use it for my purchase. With that in mind i wouldnt mind waiting 1 or 2 weeks knowing i will be credited lol. 
 
i dont know how to stop the quote from going into my response, sorry
 
 
edit by Cool GTX - fixed quote ... someones quote ends with   /quote  - however it has to be inside Brackets [ ]
 
2020/12/10 14:15:48
Dabadger84
One thing I will say - it's crazy how big the power-draw difference is between those two settings for GPU core lol
 
In Cyberpunk @ 2010MHz 900mV, I'm getting 322W peak draw from the GPU in HWInfo.  At 2070MHz 994mV, I was seeing 421W peak draw from the GPU (that's on a 3080 FTW3 Ultra with the XOC BIOS for those wondering)
 
And I can pretty much say with certainty the FPS I gained from that clock increase is not worth 100W extra power draw & 5-8C higher temps either. lol
 

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