2020/09/27 03:15:48
roccale
Memsar
https://www.evga.com/prod...aspx?pn=10G-P5-3897-KR

There is a photo in this link and if you zoom the back plate you can see the numbers



XC3

 
SP-CAP:

 
POSCAP:

 
So all are SP-CAP or POSCAP?
 
 
2020/09/27 04:12:17
Memsar
Their name is sp-cap. There are no poscap any rtx 3xxx series.
2020/09/27 04:13:18
roccale
in fact ... it has been sustained for days.
2020/09/27 04:39:58
MRizk
TeslaDev
EVGATech_LeeM
jayrwar

You will have overclock stability issues on the FTW3 Ultra on anything over the advertised boost clock speed of 1815Mhz.

Like this guy?  
 
https://forums.evga.com/3090FTW-Ultra2085-core-on-air-m3097166.aspx




Amazing OC! Will be interesting to see what happens when he starts throwing games at it...where the non-static power draw starts generating transients.
 
At the end of the day...I'm not super concerned with this and still looking forward to the FTW3 hybrid...but it gives me time to monitor all this...  I'm guessing most crashing that is being reported is simply driver level...as is normal for new GPU launches....or bad PSUs, user connection error for PCIE cables, unstable overclocks, failure to DDU previous drivers...etc.




He already mentioned he couldn't do 2000+ on RDR2. 
2020/09/27 04:42:46
Vlax_Aus
Hello. I'm mechanical engineer with some electrical experience and I would like to share my opinion on this. I think that the problem is RF frequency noise at higher voltages, not the actual capacity of sp-caps (mtcc) or mlcc ones. Higher rated caps 220-330-470uf have much higher frequency noise, and due to this design (closest possible to gpu core for fast voltage discharge/flow) they have smaller or don't have at all RF filter. Because most crashes happening when clock speed is hitting 2ghz, 300+ watts. And mlcc caps are much more unreliable but faster responding than sp caps, that's why you need combination of both. I think this Evga's 4x 220 (lower noise) + 2(ftw) or 1(xc) is very clever and it will actually work fine. But due to capacitor sizes , I don't think that they will top the performance charts (but they will be reliable and higher tier).
2020/09/27 04:58:20
michalvan89
i dont get why there is so much complains about the SP-CAPs used instead of MLCCs. GPUs are working great with stated frequencies, anything above is just overclocking (not counting gpu boost algorithm which can be capped and is just nice bonus) where noone can guarantee stability. Ppl should just learn how to enjoy things, instead of complaining about nonsense. Fix is easy, just cap the maximum frequency bellow 2GHz.
2020/09/27 05:03:14
MRizk
michalvan89
i dont get why there is so much complains about the SP-CAPs used instead of MLCCs. GPUs are working great with stated frequencies, anything above is just overclocking (not counting gpu boost algorithm which can be capped and is just nice bonus) where noone can guarantee stability. Ppl should just learn how to enjoy things, instead of complaining about nonsense. Fix is easy, just cap the maximum frequency bellow 2GHz.




You see the boost clock as a bonus, me and others see it as a feature. Reviews and benchmarks posted online "for marketing" where done with it enabled. Doing a VBIOS update to lower it means false advertising in my books. (I know EVGA said nothing about a VBIOS to lower the boost, in fact, Jacob denied them having any plans to do this which is why I am still sticking with EVGA)
 
Also I personally buy EVGA to overclock. I buy EVGA because they offer decent coolers. If I didn't care about overclocking I'd just go FE. I have had an EVGA 750 Ti, EVGA 1080 Ti, and EVGA 2080 Super and I have overclocked each and everyone of them. None of them had issues maintaining the factory OC. I don't expect the 3090 FTW3 to be any different. 
 
I personally don't care what capacitors a card has. I never knew a thing about capacitors and I never expected to even hear about them. I don't care what EVGA uses as long as the card works as advertised, and is not worse than others in the same price range. 
2020/09/27 05:21:00
michalvan89
MRizk
michalvan89
i dont get why there is so much complains about the SP-CAPs used instead of MLCCs. GPUs are working great with stated frequencies, anything above is just overclocking (not counting gpu boost algorithm which can be capped and is just nice bonus) where noone can guarantee stability. Ppl should just learn how to enjoy things, instead of complaining about nonsense. Fix is easy, just cap the maximum frequency bellow 2GHz.




You see the boost clock as a bonus, me and others see it as a feature. Reviews and benchmarks posted online "for marketing" where done with it enabled. Doing a VBIOS update to lower it means false advertising in my books. (I know EVGA said nothing about a VBIOS to lower the boost, in fact, Jacob denied them having any plans to do this which is why I am still sticking with EVGA)
 
Also I personally buy EVGA to overclock. I buy EVGA because they offer decent coolers. If I didn't care about overclocking I'd just go FE. I have had an EVGA 750 Ti, EVGA 1080 Ti, and EVGA 2080 Super and I have overclocked each and everyone of them. None of them had issues maintaining the factory OC. I don't expect the 3090 FTW3 to be any different. 
 
I personally don't care what capacitors a card has. I never knew a thing about capacitors and I never expected to even hear about them. I don't care what EVGA uses as long as the card works as advertised, and is not worse than others in the same price range. 




well when you buy car, and go to do some chiptuning or any modification and it will go wrong i doubt that you will complain about it not being good to manufacturer of car :) ... all i can see cards working fine, differences are like 1-2 fps when capped so why even bother. EVGA has good approach and fixed this in FTW3 series. So i see no problem here. Boost clocks are about possible headroom anyway, if there is enough power and temp to be spent. If i want to OC then i have to count on fact that there is some max spot where i cannot go over.
Not here to argue, just surprised that ppl have enough balls to even highlight such thing :)
2020/09/27 05:47:18
MRizk
michalvan89
MRizk
michalvan89
i dont get why there is so much complains about the SP-CAPs used instead of MLCCs. GPUs are working great with stated frequencies, anything above is just overclocking (not counting gpu boost algorithm which can be capped and is just nice bonus) where noone can guarantee stability. Ppl should just learn how to enjoy things, instead of complaining about nonsense. Fix is easy, just cap the maximum frequency bellow 2GHz.




You see the boost clock as a bonus, me and others see it as a feature. Reviews and benchmarks posted online "for marketing" where done with it enabled. Doing a VBIOS update to lower it means false advertising in my books. (I know EVGA said nothing about a VBIOS to lower the boost, in fact, Jacob denied them having any plans to do this which is why I am still sticking with EVGA)
 
Also I personally buy EVGA to overclock. I buy EVGA because they offer decent coolers. If I didn't care about overclocking I'd just go FE. I have had an EVGA 750 Ti, EVGA 1080 Ti, and EVGA 2080 Super and I have overclocked each and everyone of them. None of them had issues maintaining the factory OC. I don't expect the 3090 FTW3 to be any different. 
 
I personally don't care what capacitors a card has. I never knew a thing about capacitors and I never expected to even hear about them. I don't care what EVGA uses as long as the card works as advertised, and is not worse than others in the same price range. 




well when you buy car, and go to do some chiptuning or any modification and it will go wrong i doubt that you will complain about it not being good to manufacturer of car :) ... all i can see cards working fine, differences are like 1-2 fps when capped so why even bother. EVGA has good approach and fixed this in FTW3 series. So i see no problem here. Boost clocks are about possible headroom anyway, if there is enough power and temp to be spent. If i want to OC then i have to count on fact that there is some max spot where i cannot go over.
Not here to argue, just surprised that ppl have enough balls to even highlight such thing :)


I would overclock my car if it was compatible with EVGA Precision X1.
2020/09/27 05:48:46
mxracer327
I actually snagged the 3080 XC3 ultra gaming and received it this past Wednesday. It has the 5+1 setup as shown in the pictures. The card boosts to around 1955 consistently and sits between 73-78c. So far I have had not one crash. What I have had is major stuttering in some games, cod warzone and control are two that stand out. I'm hoping this is just a driver issue and not hardware as even with a 100mhz underclock the issues persisted.

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