2022/03/28 10:15:53
zippytek
would be surprised to see a HC at all let alone KPE HC. also wonder how they'd drop a flagship tier card with no custom water cooling options...maybe they'll drop the HC kit with the idea being the PCB layouts for 3090 Ti and 4090 will be nearly identical? I've seen more than a few folks speculate that the Ti is a test run for the 40 series power delivery and pcb layout
2022/03/28 10:20:03
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zippytek
would be surprised to see a HC at all let alone KPE HC. also wonder how they'd drop a flagship tier card with no custom water cooling options...maybe they'll drop the HC kit with the idea being the PCB layouts for 3090 Ti and 4090 will be nearly identical? I've seen more than a few folks speculate that the Ti is a test run for the 40 series power delivery and pcb layout


I be surprised if they carry over the same PCB layout, seems they're always tweaking things enough where things don't carry over.  I've heard the 3090 Ti KPE PCB design is different enough where the base 3090 series block wouldn't carry over.  Is that the same for 3080 and 3080 Ti?  (Never needed to look)
2022/03/28 10:24:29
daeshik
Looks pretty heavy and needs anti-sag support?
2022/03/28 10:24:59
zippytek
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zippytek
would be surprised to see a HC at all let alone KPE HC. also wonder how they'd drop a flagship tier card with no custom water cooling options...maybe they'll drop the HC kit with the idea being the PCB layouts for 3090 Ti and 4090 will be nearly identical? I've seen more than a few folks speculate that the Ti is a test run for the 40 series power delivery and pcb layout


I be surprised if they carry over the same PCB layout, seems they're always tweaking things enough where things don't carry over.  I've heard the 3090 Ti KPE PCB design is different enough where the base 3090 series block wouldn't carry over.  Is that the same for 3080 and 3080 Ti?  (Never needed to look)




also haven't looked much / at all at the 3080[ti] PCBs. def possible they'll change things between now and fall, just speculating you know :D
 
not a major setback if no waterblock for 3090Ti, have an icon extreme arriving from tw today! 3090 kp first, and fingers crossed we'll have a Ti KPE by end of april!
2022/03/28 10:25:43
zippytek
daeshik
Looks pretty heavy and needs anti-sag support?




i'd expect it will be a little heavier but not by much, and with the extra slot screw it should handle ok
2022/03/28 10:34:14
redteamgo
3.5 slots? NH-d15 compatible? Lol

In before a pair of 140mm noctuas zip tied to the pcb outperforms stock air cooler.
2022/03/28 12:30:19
zippytek
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zippytek
would be surprised to see a HC at all let alone KPE HC. also wonder how they'd drop a flagship tier card with no custom water cooling options...maybe they'll drop the HC kit with the idea being the PCB layouts for 3090 Ti and 4090 will be nearly identical? I've seen more than a few folks speculate that the Ti is a test run for the 40 series power delivery and pcb layout


I be surprised if they carry over the same PCB layout, seems they're always tweaking things enough where things don't carry over.  I've heard the 3090 Ti KPE PCB design is different enough where the base 3090 series block wouldn't carry over.  Is that the same for 3080 and 3080 Ti?  (Never needed to look)




i think this was where i saw someone discussing the test run for 40 series but it was in the older linked breakdown of the 12VHPWR connector
 
https://www.igorslab.de/n...pannungswandler-orgie/
2022/03/28 12:43:54
talon951
It's difficult to believe they would make a card like this with no water block options. Seems pointless. An air cooled version is likely not any faster than my water cooled 3090. Very very little anyway.
2022/03/28 12:51:56
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talon951
It's difficult to believe they would make a card like this with no water block options. Seems pointless. An air cooled version is likely not any faster than my water cooled 3090. Very very little anyway.

It's tough to say.  Their HC release has always lagged a bit, especially so with 3090 and the whole supply shortage.  So even if 3090 Ti is announced for actual sale this month [(X) doubt], it'll be a few months until HC blocks come out.  And then we're that much closer to 40-series.  And no other major waterblock manufacturer is even making blocks for KP cards anymore, so not like anyone will be pushing development.  All we had for 3090 KP was EGVA official and Optimus, and Optimus has had it's issues with its 30 series KP blocks.  I bet they're fully aware that people want blocks for these cards, but don't know how it works out on the books for them.  I'd be happy if EVGA partner with some mainstream waterblock manufacturer and get blocks out that way.  (No idea who's making the current blocks) 
2022/03/28 13:55:38
bavor
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talon951
It's difficult to believe they would make a card like this with no water block options. Seems pointless. An air cooled version is likely not any faster than my water cooled 3090. Very very little anyway.

It's tough to say.  Their HC release has always lagged a bit, especially so with 3090 and the whole supply shortage.  So even if 3090 Ti is announced for actual sale this month [(X) doubt], it'll be a few months until HC blocks come out.  And then we're that much closer to 40-series.  And no other major waterblock manufacturer is even making blocks for KP cards anymore, so not like anyone will be pushing development.  All we had for 3090 KP was EGVA official and Optimus, and Optimus has had it's issues with its 30 series KP blocks.  I bet they're fully aware that people want blocks for these cards, but don't know how it works out on the books for them.  I'd be happy if EVGA partner with some mainstream waterblock manufacturer and get blocks out that way.  (No idea who's making the current blocks) 



I've love to see EVGA partner with EKWB or another larger mainstream water cooling parts manufacturer instead of whoever makes their current blocks.  My MSI 3090 with the EKWB block and active backplate cooling only runs a few degrees warmer under load with the same power limit as my Kingpin 3090 with the Optimus block. 
 
Asus and Power Color partner with EKWB already for water cooled GPUs.  I got the impression form EKWB that theyd on't make Kingpinw ater blocks because of the low demand for them.  However if theyw ere the OEM for EVGA, that could change.

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