Nereus

GTXJackBauer

First batch will be available Thursday - Kingpin

I believe Vince was talking about the Z690 Dark KingPin mobo, not the 3090 Ti / 3090 KingPin.
 
 

Note the total lack of GPU, in solidarity with the Reddit PC building community.
 
(yes I know he's just doing LN2 cpu OC'ing, thanks)

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Looking a little less that'll 3090 Ti will see the light of day, at least in mass quantities....
 
"NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti not just halted, but 'delayed indefinitely'"
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/84376/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-not-just-halted-but-delayed-indefinitely/index.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=newsletter
 
Source 1: "Nobody is talking about the 3090 Ti to this day. Zero launch planning discussions are going on. It's a card for world records, & may not even launch in some regions".
Source 2: "Whenever it comes out, this card is like a Porsche 918. You don't just find one at every dealership. It's a Show Card most stores won't be able to get".
Source 3: "I (OEM) have no updates, NVIDIA isn't communicating. Delays happen, but this one is unusual how quiet it is, and with it happening after the announcement".
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com...tm_campaign=newsletter

Dude you can't just quote an article who cites MLID as a source, the guy is just making up Reddit tier BS in his mom's basement.
 
Fact is, the A40 and A6000 cards use the same full GA102 chip which has been in existence since at least mid-2020, released in Oct 2020:
 
https://www.techpowerup.c...pecs/nvidia-ga102.g930
 
https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/Data-Center/a40/NVIDIA%20A40%20Product%20Brief.pdf
 
https://www.nvidia.com/co...54980-r9-web%20(1).pdf
 
They cost ~$6000.  High boost clock.   If corporate customers want them, Nvidia sure isn't going dump those top bin GA102's in ~$2000 gaming cards.
 
There is no particular difference in power demands or technical hurdles in making the card work.  They have had a year and a half to bin at least a small pile of top tier GA102's, unless of course they consumed them all.  There is no 1860MHZ boost clock, the reference boost clock will be in the 1665-1725mhz range.  I also HIGHLY doubt the reference card will have more than 350w 100% PL.  There is no last minute technical gotcha, they either make the chips available or they don't.

While we're at it, where are the 16Gb (2GB) GDDR6X?  Micron has a datasheet listing the faster 21 Gb/s variant but only in 8Gb size, it's been rumored to be on an Ampere card way back in mid 2020:
 
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/74502/micron-confirms-geforce-rtx-3090-has-12gb-of-gddr6x-memory-at-21gbps/index.html
 
Huh?  Where are these mythical 2GB 21Gb/s chips?  I would say the vram could be causing a delay, but who knows if it even exists?   Maybe they are having trouble with it running at 21Gb/s, in either a single or double sided layout?  Hummm?

What ever is Holding up the TI , they are not talking about it or leaking it, 100 more watts on the FE cooler must be a lot to ask of it. if the 40 series is on track for this year , I will definitely wait , even if you can flip your current KP , you might be spending 600$ or more for the extra 500 points in PR

kraade
What ever is Holding up the TI , they are not talking about it or leaking it, 100 more watts on the FE cooler must be a lot to ask of it. if the 40 series is on track for this year , I will definitely wait , even if you can flip your current KP , you might be spending 600$ or more for the extra 500 points in PR

People need to stop repeating the 'muh 450w' meme. It is purely a bad rumor, started by a guy on Twitter months ago, then repeated in a vacuum.  Not confirmed by anything.  There is a dodgy screenshot of a 3090 Ti SuprimX spec sheet with 480w listed.  Guess what?  There are 500w 3090 FTW3 bios.  The 3090 Ti FE and Reference will be 350w 100% PL with a max of around 375w, just like the 3080 Ti and 3090.  Nvidia themselves will not significantly exceed the ~375w PCIe limit, they do 400w max FE, but less on reference.  The 3080 Ti and 3090 FTW3 barely hold themselves together coming out of the box at 400w+, Nvidia knows this.

kevinc313

kraade
What ever is Holding up the TI , they are not talking about it or leaking it, 100 more watts on the FE cooler must be a lot to ask of it. if the 40 series is on track for this year , I will definitely wait , even if you can flip your current KP , you might be spending 600$ or more for the extra 500 points in PR

People need to stop repeating the 'muh 450w' meme. It is purely a bad rumor, started by a guy on Twitter in October, then repeated in a vacuum.  Not confirmed by anything.  There is a dodgy screenshot of a 3090 Ti SuprimX spec sheet with 480w listed.  Guess what?  There are 500w 3090 FTW3 bios.  The 3090 Ti FE and Reference will be 350w 100% PL with a max of around 375w, just like the 3080 Ti and 3090.  Nvidia themselves will not significantly exceed the ~375w PCIe limit, they do 400w max FE, but less on reference.  The 3080 Ti and 3090 FTW3 barely hold themselves together coming out of the box at 400w+, Nvidia knows this.

Whatever, a 3080 ftw3 is listed as 320w on the spec sheet and actually pulled 380w , we will see what it does when we see it but 450 is certainly not out of the realm of impossibility as the KPE pulls 420 , stock and they going to try to beat it to keep up the 125 $ per 1% performance increase that we have come accustomed to.

kraade

kevinc313

kraade
What ever is Holding up the TI , they are not talking about it or leaking it, 100 more watts on the FE cooler must be a lot to ask of it. if the 40 series is on track for this year , I will definitely wait , even if you can flip your current KP , you might be spending 600$ or more for the extra 500 points in PR

People need to stop repeating the 'muh 450w' meme. It is purely a bad rumor, started by a guy on Twitter in October, then repeated in a vacuum.  Not confirmed by anything.  There is a dodgy screenshot of a 3090 Ti SuprimX spec sheet with 480w listed.  Guess what?  There are 500w 3090 FTW3 bios.  The 3090 Ti FE and Reference will be 350w 100% PL with a max of around 375w, just like the 3080 Ti and 3090.  Nvidia themselves will not significantly exceed the ~375w PCIe limit, they do 400w max FE, but less on reference.  The 3080 Ti and 3090 FTW3 barely hold themselves together coming out of the box at 400w+, Nvidia knows this.

Whatever, a 3080 ftw3 is listed as 320w on the spec sheet and actually pulled 380w , we will see what it does when we see it but 450 is certainly not out of the realm of impossibility as the KPE pulls 420 , stock and they going to try to beat it to keep up the 125 $ per 1% performance increase that we have come accustomed to.

AIB custom cards can pull whatever.  If you're citing PL for a new launch, you should cite the baseline 100% PL of the reference card.
 
Every three plug 3080, 3080 Ti and 3090 can be run at 450w, somewhat easily.
 
3080 ref/FE is 320w 100% PL.  The 3080 FTW3 is 380w 100% PL.
 
Everyone needs to calm down and remember that 250w 100% PL was typical for the flagship reference card for the last 10 years.

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I'd never noticed this before but the 3090 actually uses the 21Gb/s GDDR6X chips and underclocks them.  Huh.
 
https://www.techpowerup.c...0-gaming-x-trio/3.html

Nereus

GTXJackBauer

First batch will be available Thursday - Kingpin

I believe Vince was talking about the Z690 Dark KingPin mobo, not the 3090 Ti / 3090 KingPin.
 

Glad you can distinguish the MB in the gif.