One controls the fan on the card, the other controls all 3 rad fans simultaneously. There is no independent fan control for the rad unless you want to rewire and use 3rd party controller/mobo header.

i am seeing more advanced listing postings on news feeds for the 3090ti, Asus and Msi,  I am thinking it is real thing when you start seeing that.  I think the 4000 series might get delayed.  Intel releasing their own discreet cards and who knows if they go neck and neck with a 3080 and they flood the market with their first generation,  Nvidia and AMD might have something to worry about.   i have been waiting for my notify for my 3090 KPE HC  for 8 months now.   Intel wants to fill this void and get marketshare.

Don't like the hybrid setup and prefer the hydro copper version. Will there be one? 

Up and running on my replacement KP hybrid.  Fingers crossed.  Totally new sealed card.

rjbarker
Reading some preliminary "rumours" of 40xx series (who knows for sure right but 2x as fast as current line up, 5nm and up to 18K cuda cores).... if your already sitting on a 30xx series of any kind wouldnt make any sense at all to spend that kind of money on a 3090Ti let alone a kp....not at this point....but there are always those looking for another 500 pts in PR ;)
 
The small spread already between 3080Ti and 3090 kp should be enough for "common sense" to kick in.....for most lol
Then again do we really have to have 12900k n DDR5 .....enthusiasts decisions

The rumors always say the next gen is twice as fast, BS of course.  3080 was about 50% faster than a 2080 and 3090 about 35% faster than 2080 Ti (typical OC).   There are eleven 3070 Ti Timespy GPU scores worldwide better than my personal best 2080 Ti Hybrid with no remarkable effort and zero 3070's...we all know about the 2080 Ti vs. 3070 BS hype Nvidia itself put out at launch.
 
This gen the 3080 picked up a decent gain on the 2080 Ti, will the 4080 resounding beat the 3090, and cost less than $1500?  When will you be able to get one?  Will it have value to miners?

Gotspeed_2000I kinda cringe on the thought of the 3090TI Kingpin is going to go for.  I do think it will be around 2.3k for the hybrid and closer to 2.5k if they come out with a HC. 

Sorry man you're dreaming.  The 3090 KP already lists for $2119 and goes on ebay/stockx for $2700, down from ~$4K over the holiday.  The 3080 12GB price 're-calibration' was a ~50% hike over the 3080 10GB.  ASUS 3090's on NE shuffle today were about $2219 for TUF and $2299 for Strix.
 
IMHO the 3090 Ti reference/FE will be $1999 and the KP will be around $3000.
 

Kevins on a roll .......

Emparus
Don't like the hybrid setup and prefer the hydro copper version. Will there be one? 

The KP Hydro Copper was released last year.

First batch will be available Thursday - Kingpin

GTXJackBauer

First batch will be available Thursday - Kingpin

I believe Vince was talking about the Z690 Dark KingPin mobo, not the 3090 Ti / 3090 KingPin.