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That is odd that PX1 and GPUZ read differently.  I just tried that on mine, both read the same.  I'm not surprised some other stress tests like Furmark read lower.  I've seen that on my FTW3.  It'll max out early on pin #2 at 160w and stop at 400w or even a little less.  I think it has to do with what part of the card/core is being used the most and it varies from one 3D app to another.

Any of 3080ti XC3 bios will work.  Might try flashing one of the others in case they just have something borked in the HC version.

what card do you have? 3080? 3090? 3080ti?

I have a 3080ti FTW3 that is now converted to a hybrid.

Once you converted from air cooled to an AIO that voided your warranty right?

Nope, not with EVGA.

Ok then my next question is why? Because I looked over the warranty and it says it gets voided if you alter a card after factory production. Would taking an air block off for an AIO not be considered to be altering the factory product?

I think we're on to something with the PCIe power.
 
PCIe slot "spec" is 75W TOTAL. but if you ignore power allocated to 3.3V, you are only allotted 66W for 12V power via the slot.
 
another thing is that if I have the card just sitting there running nothing, but in high performance mode with clocks sitting at 1725MHz, GPUz reports a total board power of about 100W, with 32.5W being pulled from the PCIe slot. GPUz reports that the power consumption is 28.8% TDP, but PX1 reports 49% power consumption.
 
32.5/66 = 49%.
 
so it seems that the whole card's power limit logic is only based on the pcie power input? they should only be throttling the PCIe slot and not throttling the whole card.
 
EVGA should address this discrepancy.

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That is odd that PX1 and GPUZ read differently.  I just tried that on mine, both read the same.  I'm not surprised some other stress tests like Furmark read lower.  I've seen that on my FTW3.  It'll max out early on pin #2 at 160w and stop at 400w or even a little less.  I think it has to do with what part of the card/core is being used the most and it varies from one 3D app to another.

Any of 3080ti XC3 bios will work.  Might try flashing one of the others in case they just have something borked in the HC version.

what card do you have? 3080? 3090? 3080ti?

I have a 3080ti FTW3 that is now converted to a hybrid.

Once you converted from air cooled to an AIO that voided your warranty right?

Nope, not with EVGA.

Ok then my next question is why? Because I looked over the warranty and it says it gets voided if you alter a card after factory production. Would taking an air block off for an AIO not be considered to be altering the factory product?

Altering the card at a hardware level, so if you solder a shunt mod on is an example of what is altering the card. 
 
Repasting or installing a Hybrid kit (from EVGA themselves I may add) isn't considered this type of altering. 
 
If the PCB is left along and stock, you can cool it how you want is my understanding. 

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That is odd that PX1 and GPUZ read differently.  I just tried that on mine, both read the same.  I'm not surprised some other stress tests like Furmark read lower.  I've seen that on my FTW3.  It'll max out early on pin #2 at 160w and stop at 400w or even a little less.  I think it has to do with what part of the card/core is being used the most and it varies from one 3D app to another.

Any of 3080ti XC3 bios will work.  Might try flashing one of the others in case they just have something borked in the HC version.

what card do you have? 3080? 3090? 3080ti?

I have a 3080ti FTW3 that is now converted to a hybrid.

Once you converted from air cooled to an AIO that voided your warranty right?

Nope, not with EVGA.

Ok then my next question is why? Because I looked over the warranty and it says it gets voided if you alter a card after factory production. Would taking an air block off for an AIO not be considered to be altering the factory product?

Altering the card at a hardware level, so if you solder a shunt mod on is an example of what is altering the card. 
 
Repasting or installing a Hybrid kit (from EVGA themselves I may add) isn't considered this type of altering. 
 
If the PCB is left along and stock, you can cool it how you want is my understanding. 

This is very helpful information thank you so much!

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That is odd that PX1 and GPUZ read differently.  I just tried that on mine, both read the same.  I'm not surprised some other stress tests like Furmark read lower.  I've seen that on my FTW3.  It'll max out early on pin #2 at 160w and stop at 400w or even a little less.  I think it has to do with what part of the card/core is being used the most and it varies from one 3D app to another.

Any of 3080ti XC3 bios will work.  Might try flashing one of the others in case they just have something borked in the HC version.

what card do you have? 3080? 3090? 3080ti?

I have a 3080ti FTW3 that is now converted to a hybrid.

Once you converted from air cooled to an AIO that voided your warranty right?

Nope, not with EVGA.

Ok then my next question is why? Because I looked over the warranty and it says it gets voided if you alter a card after factory production. Would taking an air block off for an AIO not be considered to be altering the factory product?

It's not considered altering the factory production. Doing shunt mods and stuff like that is altering the factory production. You do know EVGA sells a Hybrid kit for people to put on their card and some times will have Hydro Copper blocks? The only thing is you must return the card in factory condition for an RMA, so don't put a Hybrid kit or water block on your card and sell the air cooler.

Now that we've put that off topic tangent behind us. back on topic.
 

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I think we're on to something with the PCIe power.
 
PCIe slot "spec" is 75W TOTAL. but if you ignore power allocated to 3.3V, you are only allotted 66W for 12V power via the slot.
 
another thing is that if I have the card just sitting there running nothing, but in high performance mode with clocks sitting at 1725MHz, GPUz reports a total board power of about 100W, with 32.5W being pulled from the PCIe slot. GPUz reports that the power consumption is 28.8% TDP, but PX1 reports 49% power consumption.
 
32.5/66 = 49%.
 
so it seems that the whole card's power limit logic is only based on the pcie power input? they should only be throttling the PCIe slot and not throttling the whole card.
 
EVGA should address this discrepancy.

gsrcrxsi
Now that we've put that off topic tangent behind us. back on topic.
 

gsrcrxsi
I think we're on to something with the PCIe power.

PCIe slot "spec" is 75W TOTAL. but if you ignore power allocated to 3.3V, you are only allotted 66W for 12V power via the slot.

another thing is that if I have the card just sitting there running nothing, but in high performance mode with clocks sitting at 1725MHz, GPUz reports a total board power of about 100W, with 32.5W being pulled from the PCIe slot. GPUz reports that the power consumption is 28.8% TDP, but PX1 reports 49% power consumption.

32.5/66 = 49%.

so it seems that the whole card's power limit logic is only based on the pcie power input? they should only be throttling the PCIe slot and not throttling the whole card.

EVGA should address this discrepancy.

What happens if you try Afterburner? No fans on the card, so you don't need Precision X1 to OC the card and have the fans run correctly.

Afterburner agrees with GPUz in terms of total power consumption value (in watts), but agrees with PX1 in terms of power consumption percentage. So it’ll say 300W but 100%. I suspect that Afterburner is reading whatever the card tells it, where GPUz is doing it more correctly by taking power used/power limit.

EVGA has made adjustments to BIOS’ of other models of cards to fix power issues like this. No reason they couldn’t or shouldn’t try to fix this one.

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I think we're on to something with the PCIe power.
 
PCIe slot "spec" is 75W TOTAL. but if you ignore power allocated to 3.3V, you are only allotted 66W for 12V power via the slot.
 
another thing is that if I have the card just sitting there running nothing, but in high performance mode with clocks sitting at 1725MHz, GPUz reports a total board power of about 100W, with 32.5W being pulled from the PCIe slot. GPUz reports that the power consumption is 28.8% TDP, but PX1 reports 49% power consumption.
 
32.5/66 = 49%.
 
so it seems that the whole card's power limit logic is only based on the pcie power input? they should only be throttling the PCIe slot and not throttling the whole card.
 
EVGA should address this discrepancy.

Well no matter what the reason, I would try harder to get EVGA tech to look at it. Other than flashing a different bios, there's nothing you can do yourself.

But if you do that, you should use NVFlash manually and save your original bios so you can restore it back on the card if you end up RMAing it.

Go here and grab the 3080 Ti Hybrid bios. EVGA just put this up yesterday. Of coarse save your bios before you flash.
 
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-30-Series-HYBRIDXOCDefault-BIOS-Thread-m3407542.aspx