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2021/02/15 15:07:52 (permalink)

 
Got it in today and I've spent a couple hours on it so far. The RGB looks great to me; the sidebar adds a lot to the effect.
Overall construction feels solid, there's no flex in the keyboard anywhere. The wrist pad feels premium, and I like the magnetic snap. Switches (I got the linear optical) feel similar to the RAPIDFIRE switches in my Corsair K70 (short, low resistance travel).
 
However there are some things I don't like.
 
-The EVGA logo hump looks cheap, doesn't match the all black aesthetics, and it's a bit large. A black metal plate with a silver or RGB backlit logo would have looked more premium. It doesn't bother me that much, or I wouldn't have gotten the keyboard, but something to note.
 
-While the keys do feel great when you press straight down on the center, if you are off center when you press a key, there can be a short "bind" on the key that changes the the resistance of the key enough to have it sometimes not activate when you're typing quickly. The only keyboard I have on hand to compare it with is my Corsair K70, and it doesn't have this issue at all. The keys feel the same no matter where or how you press on the key. The binding on the Z20 has been a constant annoyance for me so far. If you're a key masher it may not bother you.
 
-The volume bar doesn't roll properly on my unit, it switches between a light and medium resistance roll while you're moving it. Not a huge issue, but it doesn't feel right.
 
Some quick "meh" items: TOF sensor is interesting, I like that I can set it to turn off the RGB when I walk away, but I don't know that it's worth the cost of having. The Unleash software is okay, I was able to do everything I needed. 4k polling is also interesting, but I don't know if it has much of a real world performance impact.
 
Conclusion: Solid keyboard for the $88 elite member cost. However I would have been disappointed if I had paid MSRP.
 
Edit: my mobo doesn't recognize the keyboard wake command to get it out of hibernation when its set to 4k polling, had to set it to 1k. 4k polling does work in the BIOS though, so I'm not sure what's up with that.
 
post edited by RiChess - 2021/02/16 08:44:55

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/16 01:19:49 (permalink)
    been looking @ this, thanks for the info
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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/17 03:04:11 (permalink)
    Odd, I have not had this same experience with the KB not waking the system when in 4K polling mode, I will try multiple units, since I have several in the HQ.
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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/17 07:00:56 (permalink)
    Thanks for the info.  I've got the Z20 delivering today along with the X17 so I'm excited to replace my cheapo ThermalTake Knucker 3-in-1 set I bought when I first got back into PC gaming 2 years ago. 

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/17 07:14:26 (permalink)
    The Z20 should be a big upgrade for you then! It’s by no means a bad keyboard, esp coming from something cheap.

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/18 06:23:53 (permalink)
    But I have been Using EVGA Z10.
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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/18 07:20:03 (permalink)
    I got one yesterday as well and the one thing I'll add is even with the Linear switches, the keyboard is not very quiet and still has a decent amount of noise.  If you are in your own space without others to annoy, it is great! 
     
    Unfortunately I am in a small NYC apartment and my wife and I share the main room while working all day... I was already told to choose the keyboard or her, I don't get to keep both.  Will put the keyboard in the closet till we move somewhere and I am in my own space.  

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/18 08:01:13 (permalink)
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    I got one yesterday as well and the one thing I'll add is even with the Linear switches, the keyboard is not very quiet and still has a decent amount of noise.  If you are in your own space without others to annoy, it is great! 
     
    Unfortunately I am in a small NYC apartment and my wife and I share the main room while working all day... I was already told to choose the keyboard or her, I don't get to keep both.  Will put the keyboard in the closet till we move somewhere and I am in my own space.  




    I was also a bit disappointed with how much noise this keyboard makes. The one thing about my previous keyboard I liked was how quiet it was, but it was an entirely different kind of keyboard (SIIG Aluminum with "scissor key architecture"). This Z20 with linear keys is advertised as "silent", but it is absolutely not silent. I did a little poking and prodding as I'm new to this type of keyboard and found that the sounds I'm dealing with are not the sounds of the keys bottoming out or activating the switches. The keys make a clicking sounds as your fingers first start to touch them, basically the keys "wobbling" on top of the switch makes a rattle/click sound before even pressing them down. To simulate this, you can brush your hand across the keys without pushing down. I have a Logitech K850 at work that has more of a clicky-response to the keys as you type, but it has a similar wobble at the top un-pressed position and makes similar noises. It's not quite as loud though I don't think.
     
    In a similar situation to yours, my wife saw me unbox my fancy new keyboard and set it up, then I started typing and she just started laughing. Said something along the lines of "oh dear, welcome to the 90's" because it sounds like one of the old beige keyboards you'd see in front of a CRT monitor. If you're gaming, which is what I normally do on my desktop at home, you leave your hand in a given pattern and those key presses would be pretty quiet, so I don't think it'll bother me, but I type pretty fast (~80wpm@97% accuracy) and found it to be quite noisy while typing fast. 
     
    I didn't find any key hitching as the OP mentioned.
     
    The only thing I've noticed so far that "feels" odd is that the little indentations for "f" and "j" keys are SUPER tiny. I found myself off-center a couple times because I couldn't find them. The WASD bumps are definitely large and throw you off a little, but they're not rough or uncomfortable at all and I think I'll like them. I just have to get used to the keyboard as it is vastly different than what I have been using. I haven't spent a lot of time with it yet, but so far, I think it's pretty cool.

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/18 16:38:31 (permalink)
    How does the magnetic support feel?
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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/19 05:45:38 (permalink)
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    How does the magnetic support feel?

    It feels thin, as you can feel your palm going through the padding to the plastic. Coming from an older Corsair keyboard with just a plastic wrist support, it is better but it could have used more or thicker padding. 

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/19 06:47:14 (permalink)
    Joshdb2010
    How does the magnetic support feel?


    I like it, but I didn't use one at my desktop before this. That said, I haven't spent a lot of time with it. I've never been a fan of those big squishy gelatinous palm-rests though so I liked the idea of this part being somewhat small for my intended use. I wouldn't have picked this keyboard for work or anything where I had to type a lot as it's quite noisy (I think this must be true of all mechanical-style keyboards, so it's not a dig at this specific one). 

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/20 22:17:34 (permalink)
    So How does this compare to say an ASUS Scope or Flare?
     
     

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/21 17:38:39 (permalink)
    How does it compare to a razer huntsman elite?

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/22 08:31:50 (permalink)
     
     
    So I ordered one.  I will clean and put my ASUS Flare on the shelf as a spare.  I am hoping that the EVGA Z20 will offer a better typing experience.

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/22 10:51:33 (permalink)
    thank you, great review now I know what ill be getting myself into if I decide to cop

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/22 11:17:50 (permalink)
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    Is the key bind from off center pressure only in the middle row ?
     
    Good to see the conflict with the Unleash RGB software and the EVGA LED sync can be resolved

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/22 13:51:27 (permalink)
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    Is the key bind from off center pressure only in the middle row ?
     
    Good to see the conflict with the Unleash RGB software and the EVGA LED sync can be resolved


    I get can binding from keys in every row. I'm getting more used to it now though; it's not as irritating as it was at first. I suspect another week or two and I won't notice it much. However it's not a problem I think a $180 keyboard should have, my $120 K70 RAPIDFIRE keyboard still feels smoother and more accurate in terms of key feel to me. Buuut my K70 doesn't have RGB (only red), and the Z20 keys aren't that bad, just not quite as good as I'm used to. Plus I'm enjoying my custom lighting I setup via Unleashed, so I'm sticking with the Z20 for now. 

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/22 22:01:43 (permalink)
    Good news, I had a chance to play around with the Z20 Linear Optical variant today I ordered for my setup and really liked just about everything about it....
     
    The bad news? So did the wife and she promptly took ownership of it after comparing it to her now former mechanical brown switches keyboard so I ended up ordering another one.
     
    The palm rest  is comfy but I can see how you sink to the bottom but in a good way. I do not like palm wrests with variable depth depending on typing position and palm weight.
    It isn't quiet, but it is much quieter than her (and mine) mechanical keyboards.
    Response and roll over is excellent and she immediately felt a difference in WoW.
    Firmware update right out of the box once RGB Unleash was installed.
    I found the tactile feedback and feel excellent.
    I won't play too much with the gadgets and neither of us are big on too many macros.
    Much better than the Razer Huntsman I returned quite awhile ago which I despised.
    That EVGA logo is outrageously big but I like it
    Keyboard cable is chunky but it does house three runs so understandable. Nice and long though.
     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Z20 First impressions 2021/02/22 23:58:39 (permalink)
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    I got one yesterday as well and the one thing I'll add is even with the Linear switches, the keyboard is not very quiet and still has a decent amount of noise.  If you are in your own space without others to annoy, it is great! 
     
    Unfortunately I am in a small NYC apartment and my wife and I share the main room while working all day... I was already told to choose the keyboard or her, I don't get to keep both.  Will put the keyboard in the closet till we move somewhere and I am in my own space.  


    That “and I am in my own space” line at the end makes it sound like you picked the Z20 over the wife.

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