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How big are the performance/cooling differences between the four cards?
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/25 14:59:18
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ftw3 ultra > ftw3 >= xc3 ultra > xc3. the difference based on the specs should be around 3%-ish each step up.
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/26 15:28:58
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There is some issue with XC3 (3080 ti) though, some reported that it does not want go over 300W, which is serious and big limitation leading to 10% performance difference between ftw3 and xc3. Probably bios bug or so.
post edited by TrekCZ - 2021/06/26 15:31:54
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 03:57:06
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Well I don't think you can actually buy or even queue for any xc3, lol... those are like unicorns
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 04:02:25
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The semiconductor shortage has resulted in virtually no high end GPUs in retailers/webstores. It will probably remain that way for a while.
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 05:22:18
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I was curious about this too. Is it possible to buy an XC3 (when they are available haha) and overclock to be close to the performance of the FTW3 cards? Are there limitations?
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 06:10:17
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3080ti XC3 is available on eBay. XC3 has lower the highest power limit than e.g. FTW3 Ultra default power limit, so for XC3 to reach FTW3 you will have to practice the art of undervolting with good cooling because FTW3 cooler is much beefier than XC3 one.
There are XC3s outside, but I suppose people are shy to show their Port Royal scores because those values will not be as impressive as one would expect (near to some good 3080 non ti).
There will be very small observable difference in games, though. But this forum visit hard core enthusiasts, so high benchmark result scores and flexing is expected.
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 06:34:13
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TrekCZ
3080ti XC3 is available on eBay. XC3 has lower the highest power limit than e.g. FTW3 Ultra default power limit, so for XC3 to reach FTW3 you will have to practice the art of undervolting with good cooling because FTW3 cooler is much beefier than XC3 one.
There are XC3s outside, but I suppose people are shy to show their Port Royal scores because those values will not be as impressive as one would expect (near to some good 3080 non ti).
There will be very small observable difference in games, though. But this forum visit hard core enthusiasts, so high benchmark result scores and flexing is expected.
Thanks for sharing the insight. I've never overclocked before, but I was curious if buying the cheaper versions of the cards and overclocking yourself could save you money and get similar results as the more premium cards, but it sounds like there is more to it. I guess they are more expensive for a reason!
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 06:42:20
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TrekCZ
3080ti XC3 is available on eBay. XC3 has lower the highest power limit than e.g. FTW3 Ultra default power limit, so for XC3 to reach FTW3 you will have to practice the art of undervolting with good cooling because FTW3 cooler is much beefier than XC3 one.
There are XC3s outside, but I suppose people are shy to show their Port Royal scores because those values will not be as impressive as one would expect (near to some good 3080 non ti).
There will be very small observable difference in games, though. But this forum visit hard core enthusiasts, so high benchmark result scores and flexing is expected.
Thanks for sharing the insight. I've never overclocked before, but I was curious if buying the cheaper versions of the cards and overclocking yourself could save you money and get similar results as the more premium cards, but it sounds like there is more to it. I guess they are more expensive for a reason!
Always a possibility but never a certainty.
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 08:25:55
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XC3 ULTRA= fan cooling
FTW ULTRA = higher performance due to hybrid kit installed😼
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 09:24:47
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If you oc both then the FTW3 can perform +8-10% above the XC3 from what we're seeing. http://www.3dmark.com/spy/21016784These are my daily driver completely stable. The FTW3 can draw more power, run at higher voltage and therefore home higher average clocks without throttling.
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Re: XC3/Ultra vs FTW3/Ultra
2021/06/27 10:05:04
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atfrico
XC3 ULTRA= fan cooling
FTW ULTRA = higher performance due to hybrid kit installed😼
KingEngineRevUp
If you oc both then the FTW3 can perform +8-10% above the XC3 from what we're seeing.
These are my daily driver completely stable. The FTW3 can draw more power, run at higher voltage and therefore home higher average clocks without throttling.
Great stuff, thanks for sharing. I've still got lots to learn!
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